Entering the Job Market

[MUCrew]

So after 14 years of owning my own business, I’ve decided to stop doing that and re-enter the job market.  I’m currently working with a career coach and recruiters to find something in my area.  The biggest problem is that I’m kind of a jack of all trades master of none kind of prospect.  It’s a screen printing business, so I’m a part of the process from start to finish.  From initial point of contact to production to final QC checks and billing.  The career coach and I narrowed it down to a position of a buyer/procurement/supply chain kind of position, but even then I’m unsure if I’d like it - or even if I’d make enough for my family. 

I guess I’m writing this to reach out for some guidance or direction.  It’s a big step for me and I feel talking about this with members of the Marquette community would be more helpful than what I’m getting now.  Thanks for listening.

[drewm88]

I can't really offer any advice personally, but don't forget that as an alum you have access to a resources through Marquette's Career Services. Good luck!

[T-Bone]

Well, what aspects of the business did you like?  Was it the sales and moving people to purchase, or was it down in the trenches making things go, or back of the house management - billing, contracts, etc? 

[D'Lo Brown]

How is your LinkedIn profile? Have you been building up a strong base of connections?

[MUfan12]

Well, what aspects of the business did you like?  Was it the sales and moving people to purchase, or was it down in the trenches making things go, or back of the house management - billing, contracts, etc?

This is important. In my position, I see tons of resumes that are in that same vein as Crew, but they can't articulate what they want to do. Unfortunately in a high-volume area, those tend to get passed over.

[HouWarrior]

JERRY: So, what are you gonna do now? Are you gonna look for something else

in real estate?

GEORGE: Nobody's hiring now. The market's terrible.

JERRY: So what are you gonna do?

GEORGE: I like sports. I could do something in sports.

JERRY: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. In what capacity?

GEORGE: You know, like the general manager of a baseball team or something.

JERRY: Yeah. Well, that - that could be tough to get.

GEORGE: Well, it doesn't even have to be the general manager. Maybe I could

be like, an announcer. Like a caller man. You know how I always make

those interesting comments during the game.

JERRY: Yeah. Yeah. You make good comments.

GEORGE: What about that?

JERRY: Well, they tend to give those jobs to ex-ballplayers and people that

are, you know, in broadcasting.

GEORGE: Well, that's really not fair.

JERRY: I know. Well, okay. Okay. What else do ya like?

GEORGE: Movies. I like to watch movies.

JERRY: Yeah. Yeah.

GEORGE: Do they pay people to watch movies?

JERRY: Projectionists.

GEORGE: That's true.

JERRY: But you gotta know how to work the projector.

GEORGE: Right.

JERRY: And it's probably a union thing.

GEORGE: [scoffs] Those unions. [sighs] Okay. Sports,...movies. What about a

talk show host?

JERRY: Talk show host. That's good.

GEORGE: I think I'd be good at that. I talk to people all the time. Someone

even told me once they thought I'd be a good talk show host.

JERRY: Really?

GEORGE: Yeah. A couple of people. I don't get that, though. Where do you

start?

JERRY: Well, that's where it gets tricky.

GEORGE: You can't just walk into a building and say " I wanna be a talk

show host."

JERRY: I wouldn't think so.

GEORGE: It's all politics.

JERRY: All right. Okay. Sports, movies, talk show host. What else?

GEORGE: This could have been a huge mistake.

JERRY: Well, it doesn't sound like you completely thought this through.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

4ever can hook you up at the Sugar Shack.  He mops the floors there on the weekends.

[real chili 83]

So after 14 years of owning my own business, I’ve decided to stop doing that and re-enter the job market.  I’m currently working with a career coach and recruiters to find something in my area.  The biggest problem is that I’m kind of a jack of all trades master of none kind of prospect.  It’s a screen printing business, so I’m a part of the process from start to finish.  From initial point of contact to production to final QC checks and billing.  The career coach and I narrowed it down to a position of a buyer/procurement/supply chain kind of position, but even then I’m unsure if I’d like it - or even if I’d make enough for my family. 

I guess I’m writing this to reach out for some guidance or direction.  It’s a big step for me and I feel talking about this with members of the Marquette community would be more helpful than what I’m getting now.  Thanks for listening.

You need to network, network, network.   What part of the world do you live in?

What kind of coaching has your career coach given you on networking?

[LAZER]

So after 14 years of owning my own business, I’ve decided to stop doing that and re-enter the job market.  I’m currently working with a career coach and recruiters to find something in my area.  The biggest problem is that I’m kind of a jack of all trades master of none kind of prospect.  It’s a screen printing business, so I’m a part of the process from start to finish.  From initial point of contact to production to final QC checks and billing.  The career coach and I narrowed it down to a position of a buyer/procurement/supply chain kind of position, but even then I’m unsure if I’d like it - or even if I’d make enough for my family. 

I guess I’m writing this to reach out for some guidance or direction.  It’s a big step for me and I feel talking about this with members of the Marquette community would be more helpful than what I’m getting now.  Thanks for listening.

I think the Procurement/Supply Chain stuff makes sense.  Maybe even a Project Manager type role (Commercialization Manager/Ops Business Manager).  Realistically, it'll take a couple years to figure our what you want and don't want to do.  Also, you'll have to figure what size of company you want to work for.  Going from running your own business to a large corporation, might make you crazy with how slow stuff moves and how decisions are made.

[MU82]

I don't know you so your question is not easy to answer, so I will give generic (but I think very sound) advice, pretty much echoing what T-Bone said earlier:

Go for something you enjoy doing, something that gives you a sense of satisfaction and accomplishment.

At this stage of your life, if you get a job that you don't like, even if it pays OK, you will quickly get disenchanted and will spend much of your time looking for a way out.

So decide what kind of profession/job would make you happy and work toward making that happen. I would think the career coach could help you with this; if he/she can't or won't, maybe it's time to find another career coach.

I also like drewm's suggestion of using your Marquette connections the best you can.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Buyer/procurement/supply chain don't make bad salaries.
You may want to go to Indeed.com and you can check average salaries in your area for various job titles such as "Buyer" or "Purchasing Agent" or "Purchasing Manager" as it may ease your mind or give you food for thought.
I feel like an expert at the job search after 6 months unemployment in 2009 followed by continued attempts for "perm" positions during 15 months of Contract Engineer positions followed by a few years search after getting a "perm" position to working on getting a dream job.   

[real chili 83]

In this day and age, many, many, many people have gone through job transitions, and are very open to helping others with networking.  Start working your network.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

So after 14 years of owning my own business, I’ve decided to stop doing that and re-enter the job market.  I’m currently working with a career coach and recruiters to find something in my area.  The biggest problem is that I’m kind of a jack of all trades master of none kind of prospect.  It’s a screen printing business, so I’m a part of the process from start to finish.  From initial point of contact to production to final QC checks and billing.  The career coach and I narrowed it down to a position of a buyer/procurement/supply chain kind of position, but even then I’m unsure if I’d like it - or even if I’d make enough for my family. 

I guess I’m writing this to reach out for some guidance or direction.  It’s a big step for me and I feel talking about this with members of the Marquette community would be more helpful than what I’m getting now.  Thanks for listening.

What state are you in?

[21Jumpstreet]

So after 14 years of owning my own business, I’ve decided to stop doing that and re-enter the job market.  I’m currently working with a career coach and recruiters to find something in my area.  The biggest problem is that I’m kind of a jack of all trades master of none kind of prospect.  It’s a screen printing business, so I’m a part of the process from start to finish.  From initial point of contact to production to final QC checks and billing.  The career coach and I narrowed it down to a position of a buyer/procurement/supply chain kind of position, but even then I’m unsure if I’d like it - or even if I’d make enough for my family. 

I guess I’m writing this to reach out for some guidance or direction.  It’s a big step for me and I feel talking about this with members of the Marquette community would be more helpful than what I’m getting now.  Thanks for listening.

I’m in a similar boat. Mid-40’s just sold my reataurant after nearly 18 years. Thanks for posting this, the universe works in strange ways. I’ll be keeping tabs on all the wonderful advice and tips.

I know you just sold a screen print business, but I have a business idea/plan that includes this type of process/product. Perhaps you can share your experiences sometime. Thank you

[Herman Cain]

So after 14 years of owning my own business, I’ve decided to stop doing that and re-enter the job market.  I’m currently working with a career coach and recruiters to find something in my area.  The biggest problem is that I’m kind of a jack of all trades master of none kind of prospect.  It’s a screen printing business, so I’m a part of the process from start to finish.  From initial point of contact to production to final QC checks and billing.  The career coach and I narrowed it down to a position of a buyer/procurement/supply chain kind of position, but even then I’m unsure if I’d like it - or even if I’d make enough for my family. 

I guess I’m writing this to reach out for some guidance or direction.  It’s a big step for me and I feel talking about this with members of the Marquette community would be more helpful than what I’m getting now.  Thanks for listening.

Why are you getting out of your own business? What are the pluses and minuses of your business. Are you sure you want to get out?

[dgies9156]

34 years ago, I was a magazine writer for a national trade organization. Did OK, but was restless.

I decided to apply for graduate school and was accepted in 1984. l earned an MBA from Chicago's Jesuit University. Came out of grad school ready to work but had no idea what I wanted to do. All I knew was that after four years at a newspaper and six at a magazine, the lure of journalism had worn off. What can an MBA whose experience was in writing do in the business world?

What happened next was amazing. I had a relationship with a senior colleague at work in our technical support area. He offered me a job in a new company he was joining, which I took. He mentored for the next few years and introduced me to other mentors who taught me the ropes. Morale of the story: know your friends, know who can help you and let the people in whom you confide guide and mentor you. They won't let you down.

[real chili 83]

34 years ago, I was a magazine writer for a national trade organization. Did OK, but was restless.

I decided to apply for graduate school and was accepted in 1984. l and earned an MBA from Chicago's Jesuit University. Came out of grad school ready to work but had no idea what I wanted to do. All I knew was that after four years at a newspaper and six at a magazine, the lure of journalism had worn off. What can an MBA whose experience was in writing do in the business world?

What happened next was amazing. I had a relationship with a senior colleague at work in our technical support area. He offered me a job in a new company he was joining, which I took. He mentored for the next few years and introduced me to other mentors who taught me the ropes. Morale of the story: know your friends, know who can help you and let the people in whom you confide guide and mentor you. They won't let you down.

AKA networking.

[dgies9156]

AKA networking.

Very true, Brother RealChili. Very true.

How's the fish biting, speaking of networking.

[mu_hilltopper]

I'm (unfortunately) interested in the career coach aspect. 

Long story short, my company was family owned, passed from two fathers to their sons, but the last father died a year ago and whammo, the company was sold to a competitor 10 times our size.   All the IT systems I've created over 18 years are now being decommissioned, which is personally brutal.  Lots of beef n cheddars have been necessary, and I have zero idea if I'll be employed in 6-12 months. 

I frankly don't know what an old programmer does after his coding days are over, thus the need for a career coach .. or something.   Kinda hoping to avoid working at Arby's.  #sadtrombone

[MU82]

I'm (unfortunately) interested in the career coach aspect. 

Long story short, my company was family owned, passed from two fathers to their sons, but the last father died a year ago and whammo, the company was sold to a competitor 10 times our size.   All the IT systems I've created over 18 years are now being decommissioned, which is personally brutal.  Lots of beef n cheddars have been necessary, and I have zero idea if I'll be employed in 6-12 months. 

I frankly don't know what an old programmer does after his coding days are over, thus the need for a career coach .. or something.   Kinda hoping to avoid working at Arby's.  #sadtrombone

Wishing you well, topper. Keep us posted.

[real chili 83]

I'm (unfortunately) interested in the career coach aspect. 

Long story short, my company was family owned, passed from two fathers to their sons, but the last father died a year ago and whammo, the company was sold to a competitor 10 times our size.   All the IT systems I've created over 18 years are now being decommissioned, which is personally brutal.  Lots of beef n cheddars have been necessary, and I have zero idea if I'll be employed in 6-12 months. 

I frankly don't know what an old programmer does after his coding days are over, thus the need for a career coach .. or something.   Kinda hoping to avoid working at Arby's.  #sadtrombone

Consider signing up with a local, boutique firm that does outplacement.  Avoid the big box ones.  It will pay dividends.

And start networking....NOW!!!

Topper, you know a sh1t ton of people from this board alone.  Plus from your time in public service. 

In today's world, there are tons of people that have been in transition, and want to give back and help you network.  You just need to take the first step. 

Also, get yor LinkedIn profile done professionally.  Seriously. 

[real chili 83]

Very true, Brother RealChili. Very true.

How's the fish biting, speaking of networking.

Fish were biting well on Perrault Lake last week. Helped net a 32.5 wallets and someone got a 55 Muskie. Only thing better was all the Sonoran salsa Dunks brought.   Heaven.

The lodge was featured on Linders Angliers Edge. They were there same time last year. Our walleye was a touch bigger than the one on the show, per the lodge owner, Steve.

https://manotak.com

Hope your dad is doing well. Did you make it “up north “ this summer?

[mu_hilltopper]

Honestly, I'd never heard of the phrase "outplacement" before.  So I guess that's one place I can start.

[real chili 83]

Honestly, I'd never heard of the phrase "outplacement" before.  So I guess that's one place I can start.

PM me

[Herman Cain]

I'm (unfortunately) interested in the career coach aspect. 

Long story short, my company was family owned, passed from two fathers to their sons, but the last father died a year ago and whammo, the company was sold to a competitor 10 times our size.   All the IT systems I've created over 18 years are now being decommissioned, which is personally brutal.  Lots of beef n cheddars have been necessary, and I have zero idea if I'll be employed in 6-12 months. 

I frankly don't know what an old programmer does after his coding days are over, thus the need for a career coach .. or something.   Kinda hoping to avoid working at Arby's.  #sadtrombone

You will be in high demand. Lots of businesses have older legacy systems and need a pro like you who understands them. For example, if you have expertise in programming something like the I Series, there are plenty of companies who will will be interested.

[vogue65]

From an over the hill retired guy:

1.  Wish I had gone for psychological testing sooner and knew myself better.
2.   Saw earlier the value of taking a humble J O B.
3.   Avoided the attitude of entitlement.
4.   Relied more on my smarts, philosophy and intuition.
5.   Understood that networking is highly over rated.
6.    Looked at work as being of service.
7.    Studied true leadership.
8.    Been willing to do what others are unwilling to do.
9.    Moved around more early on, loyalty is also highly over rated.

Oh, and prayer and or meditation can't hurt.

When does the season start?  Time to get serious....

[mu_hilltopper]

You will be in high demand. Lots of businesses have older legacy systems and need a pro like you who understands them. For example, if you have expertise in programming something like the I Series, there are plenty of companies who will will be interested.

It happens that indeed, I am an iSeries guy.  Unfortunately, I've been writing in a IBM language that's long been forgotten .. likely the only guy in 500 miles who knows it.  My coding days are likely over, it was a good run.

[Archies Bat]

Careerbar!

Seriously, it may be a good new topic area.  Some of us old guys (or young guys) maybe able to provide advice to others in job transition.

[Archies Bat]

I have zero idea if I'll be employed in 6-12 months. 

Don't wait.  Now is the time to get your butt in gear. 

[vogue65]

It happens that indeed, I am an iSeries guy.  Unfortunately, I've been writing in a IBM language that's long been forgotten .. likely the only guy in 500 miles who knows it.  My coding days are likely over, it was a good run.

Great attitude, the best is yet to come.

[Herman Cain]

It happens that indeed, I am an iSeries guy.  Unfortunately, I've been writing in a IBM language that's long been forgotten .. likely the only guy in 500 miles who knows it.  My coding days are likely over, it was a good run.

You will be surprised. When you put the word out that this language is your specialty, there will be some interested parties. You know this stuff cold and that is worth something to those in need. Remember there is always someone out there that has customized so much of their system that they need a guy like you who will be able to step right in. All it takes is one company.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

It happens that indeed, I am an iSeries guy.  Unfortunately, I've been writing in a IBM language that's long been forgotten .. likely the only guy in 500 miles who knows it.  My coding days are likely over, it was a good run.

Wow, you are like one of those Amazon tribes that speaks a language that only 10 people still speak.

[T-Bone]

It happens that indeed, I am an iSeries guy.  Unfortunately, I've been writing in a IBM language that's long been forgotten .. likely the only guy in 500 miles who knows it.  My coding days are likely over, it was a good run.

Well in (you) being a (former) developer, there are a lot of unrealized skills that you have that you can put to use.  Project management skills are unavoidable in doing what you have done (get a PMP if interested).  The mindset of a developer - agile, extreme programming - is high in demand.  The other area that may be of interest:  is you have sunsetted a system or two.  There are plenty of businesses that have legacy systems that need to retire.  How to find a position doing that, would probably come with PMP skills. 

[Benny B]

This is the best advice I can give to someone looking to change careers or get a fresh start:

Call your local community college/tech school right now and enroll in two classes this semester: Basic Refrigeration Systems and HVAC Electrical.  Next semester take Residential Heating and A/C Split-Systems.  During winter break, get your EPA Certification and start making a list of HVAC shops in your area (if they haven't already found you first). 

By the time next summer rolls around, you could have a job making upwards of $20/hr out of the gate, even more if you can put in overtime.  Quickly, your path will diverge into two... you can either continue on in residential HVAC and be making $40-50/hr in a few years or you can continue taking a couple classes every semester and join on a commercial HVAC outfit.  Either way, you can continue working for the man (or woman) as long as you want or - since you obviously have business acumen - you can set yourself up to be your own man within a matter of a few years.

And the best part.... the world is always going to need HVAC technicians, as evidenced by the demand there already is today, which is evidenced by the fact that four classes at a community college is all you need to write your own ticket.

Sure, you're not going to get rich schlepping around light gauge sheet metal and condenser coils, but it's a very sustainable job with a comfortable salary... especially if you don't have six-figures in student loans to pay off.

[MU82]

This is the best advice I can give to someone looking to change careers or get a fresh start:

Call your local community college/tech school right now and enroll in two classes this semester: Basic Refrigeration Systems and HVAC Electrical.  Next semester take Residential Heating and A/C Split-Systems.  During winter break, get your EPA Certification and start making a list of HVAC shops in your area (if they haven't already found you first). 

By the time next summer rolls around, you could have a job making upwards of $20/hr out of the gate, even more if you can put in overtime.  Quickly, your path will diverge into two... you can either continue on in residential HVAC and be making $40-50/hr in a few years or you can continue taking a couple classes every semester and join on a commercial HVAC outfit.  Either way, you can continue working for the man (or woman) as long as you want or - since you obviously have business acumen - you can set yourself up to be your own man within a matter of a few years.

And the best part.... the world is always going to need HVAC technicians, as evidenced by the demand there already is today, which is evidenced by the fact that four classes at a community college is all you need to write your own ticket.

Sure, you're not going to get rich schlepping around light gauge sheet metal and condenser coils, but it's a very sustainable job with a comfortable salary... especially if you don't have six-figures in student loans to pay off.

I think that's excellent advice, Benny ... as long as somebody actually wants to work in that business, of course.

But yes, I have read multiple times that there is big demand, and the pay/benefits are decent.

[reinko]

I think that's excellent advice, Benny ... as long as somebody actually wants to work in that business, of course.

But yes, I have read multiple times that there is big demand, and the pay/benefits are decent.

My FIL is one of the most respected writers on home heating (shoutout to his and the fams fantastic website www.heatinghelp.com), y'all are exactly right.

This countries HVAC infrastructure is approaching 100+ years old, and buildings will always need to be serviced, it's far too expensive to replace and gut buildings for newer tech.

His words always stuck with me: for all of mankind, people want to be cold when it's hot out, and hot when it's cold out

[vogue65]

This is the best advice I can give to someone looking to change careers or get a fresh start:

Call your local community college/tech school right now and enroll in two classes this semester: Basic Refrigeration Systems and HVAC Electrical.  Next semester take Residential Heating and A/C Split-Systems.  During winter break, get your EPA Certification and start making a list of HVAC shops in your area (if they haven't already found you first). 

By the time next summer rolls around, you could have a job making upwards of $20/hr out of the gate, even more if you can put in overtime.  Quickly, your path will diverge into two... you can either continue on in residential HVAC and be making $40-50/hr in a few years or you can continue taking a couple classes every semester and join on a commercial HVAC outfit.  Either way, you can continue working for the man (or woman) as long as you want or - since you obviously have business acumen - you can set yourself up to be your own man within a matter of a few years.

And the best part.... the world is always going to need HVAC technicians, as evidenced by the demand there already is today, which is evidenced by the fact that four classes at a community college is all you need to write your own ticket.

Sure, you're not going to get rich schlepping around light gauge sheet metal and condenser coils, but it's a very sustainable job with a comfortable salary... especially if you don't have six-figures in student loans to pay off.

Meets or beats all my criteria.   A smart person who knows how to learn and work can do almost anything.  We could add dozens of other industries / J O B 's .   

Or, we could suggest playing a lot of golf and "networking" and waiting for the phone to ring.....

[warriorchick]

Or, we could suggest playing a lot of golf and "networking" and waiting for the phone to ring.....

It's sounds to me like you don't know what networking actually means.

[Benny B]

I think that's excellent advice, Benny ... as long as somebody actually wants to work in that business, of course.

But yes, I have read multiple times that there is big demand, and the pay/benefits are decent.

99% of us would be movie stars, porn stars, professional athletes or sports journalists if we all got to work in the business we wanted.  For far too long we've been telling kids "you can be anything you want" when the truth is quite the opposite.  Strive to be anything you want, but when reality hits, strive to be the best at what you can do.

"Not everyone gets to be the lead singer of the band, some people have the play the tambourine." - Chris Rock [paraphrased]

[warriorchick]

99% of us would be movie stars, porn stars, professional athletes or sports journalists if we all got to work in the business we wanted.  For far too long we've been telling kids "you can be anything you want" when the truth is quite the opposite.  Strive to be anything you want, but when reality hits, strive to be the best at what you can do.

"Not everyone gets to be the lead singer of the band, some people have the play the tambourine." - Chris Rock [paraphrased]

You have to have some level of interest in what you do for a living, or you are going to miserable every working day of your life.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

You have to have some level of interest in what you do for a living, or you are going to miserable every working day of your life.

So you are saying that Benny should be a porn star, aina?

[Benny B]

So you are saying that Benny should be a porn star, aina?

I've been barking up that tree for so long, I'm not even sure the squirrel's still up there.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I've been barking up that tree for so long, I'm not even sure the squirrel's still up there.

No nuts, hey?

[WarriorFan]

This is a great thread.  My additional suggestion for those of us who are employed who could easily end up unemployed tomorrow (all of us)... This is advise I got about 15 years ago and have adhered to ever since:

Send 3-5 resume's per month.
Push hard for interviews when you get a call.  Ask for one.
Make sure you're getting at least 2 interviews per year.

I've been doing this for a long time now and it keeps my resume current, it keeps me current on the interviewing process, it takes the nerves out of it, and it makes you better at it. 

Through all of this I've changed jobs only once.  I went from a great job to an amazing job.  I have been very lucky to be happy with all of my jobs, but I still kept up the process.  Happy doesn't guarantee future employment.

The other nice thing - employers do prefer candidates who have jobs.

Every single opportunity that made it to a face to face interview (in 15 years - every one!) has led to me getting a job offer. 

In summary - my advice on entering the job market:  Never leave it. 

[Benny B]

This is a great thread.  My additional suggestion for those of us who are employed who could easily end up unemployed tomorrow (all of us)... This is advise I got about 15 years ago and have adhered to ever since:

Send 3-5 resume's per month.
Push hard for interviews when you get a call.  Ask for one.
Make sure you're getting at least 2 interviews per year.

I've been doing this for a long time now and it keeps my resume current, it keeps me current on the interviewing process, it takes the nerves out of it, and it makes you better at it. 

Through all of this I've changed jobs only once.  I went from a great job to an amazing job.  I have been very lucky to be happy with all of my jobs, but I still kept up the process.  Happy doesn't guarantee future employment.

The other nice thing - employers do prefer candidates who have jobs.

Every single opportunity that made it to a face to face interview (in 15 years - every one!) has led to me getting a job offer. 

In summary - my advice on entering the job market:  Never leave it.

Maybe it works in some jobs, but generally, I don't think this is very good advice.  If someone asked me for an interview before I was ready to offer an invite, that would be the end of that call.  (Unless I was a sales manager for a car dealership, of course.)  An aggressive, go-getter attitude is good in moderation, but presumption and arrogance... not so much in any quantity.  What I think would be better general advice is to follow up with the caller immediately after (by email or letter) and state that you are interested in interviewing to discuss the opportunity further and how your experience is a good fit for the job.

But if one of my employees was constantly putting out resumes and going to interviews regularly, far be it for me to make that a waste of their time.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Maybe it works in some jobs, but generally, I don't think this is very good advice.  If someone asked me for an interview before I was ready to offer an invite, that would be the end of that call.  (Unless I was a sales manager for a car dealership, of course.)  An aggressive, go-getter attitude is good in moderation, but presumption and arrogance... not so much in any quantity.  What I think would be better general advice is to follow up with the caller immediately after (by email or letter) and state that you are interested in interviewing to discuss the opportunity further and how your experience is a good fit for the job.

But if one of my employees was constantly putting out resumes and going to interviews regularly, far be it for me to make that a waste of their time.

https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/22/far-be-it-for-me/

Totally beside the point and I don't care at all, just been seeing that phrase misused a lot lately for some reasons

[vogue65]

It's sounds to me like you don't know what networking actually means.

You're probably right again, it is really difficult being a retired loser.

[warriorchick]

https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/22/far-be-it-for-me/

Totally beside the point and I don't care at all, just been seeing that phrase misused a lot lately for some reasons

There are certain posters on this board who say "would of" and "could of" instead of "would have" and "could have" and it makes me stabby.

How did these people pass Freshman Comp at Marquette?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

There are certain posters on this board who say "would of" and "could of" instead of "would have" and "could have" and it makes me stabby.

How did these people pass Freshman Comp at Marquette?

I could care less.   

[warriorchick]

I could care less.   

I know you could, irregardless. 

[4everwarriors]

I could care less.   

Pay it no mind, kin, hey?

[Benny B]

All the rules went out the window when Webster’s changed the definition of literally to figuratively. 

[PBRme]

There are certain posters on this board who say "would of" and "could of" instead of "would have" and "could have" and it makes me stabby.

How did these people pass Freshman Comp at Marquette?

4ever was my English TA

[PBRme]

nm

[warriorchick]

4ever was my English TA

[Herman Cain]

Pay it no mind, kin, hey?

This one always seems to get me
https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/peak-peek-pique/