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MerrittsMustache

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 16, 2018, 04:32:30 PM
I don't disagree, but wouldn't you also say those big men you listed developed those three pointers because they had to in order adapt to the new style of playing the game? Traditional back to the basket bigs are no longer valued in today's NBA, especially if you are PF sized. It could be argued that if they were drafted the same year as Henry, they would have forced being a stretch four as well....otherwise they might not have been drafted. Similarly, you could say that Henry might not have forced it if he was being drafted 10 years ago.

I get what you're saying and agree with your points about the modern style of play. That said, Karl-Anthony Towns took all of 8 threes during his only season at UK before making it a bigger part of his game during his second season in the NBA. Other young bigs like Myles Turner, Trey Lyles, Bobby Portis, Jarell Martin, etc have increased their volume of 3-point shots over time. On the other hand, in HE's rookie season 70% of his shots came from 16+ feet out, including 54% from 3-point range (admittedly it was a limited sample size). He decreased those numbers to 49% and 41% in his second season but the fact that he's shooting 30% in summer league with 43% of his shots being 3's (16.7% shooting!) leads me to believe that he's still spending most of his time on the perimeter.

MU82

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 17, 2018, 08:34:45 AM
I get what you're saying and agree with your points about the modern style of play. That said, Karl-Anthony Towns took all of 8 threes during his only season at UK before making it a bigger part of his game during his second season in the NBA. Other young bigs like Myles Turner, Trey Lyles, Bobby Portis, Jarell Martin, etc have increased their volume of 3-point shots over time. On the other hand, in HE's rookie season 70% of his shots came from 16+ feet out, including 54% from 3-point range (admittedly it was a limited sample size). He decreased those numbers to 49% and 41% in his second season but the fact that he's shooting 30% in summer league with 43% of his shots being 3's (16.7% shooting!) leads me to believe that he's still spending most of his time on the perimeter.

Not that you said otherwise, but I'm guessing that Henry shot that many 3s as a rookie (and continued shooting that many in Summer League) because his coaches wanted him to.
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https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2018/07/16/kevin-garnett-andre-drummond-henry-ellenson/788565002/

Well, if KG can get both of these guys to play with intensity on the defensive end, the Pistons will be in the mix in the neutered East.
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Kevin Garnett isn't going to coach more athleticism out of Henry Ellenson. 

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#mubb @HenryEllenson13 led @DetroitPistons in scoring (15.7 ppg.) & second in rebounding (7.2 rpg) at @NBA Summer League.
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 17, 2018, 03:35:24 PM
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1018935623716130818

#mubb @HenryEllenson13 led @DetroitPistons in scoring (15.7 ppg.) & second in rebounding (7.2 rpg) at @NBA Summer League.

He had fewer points than FGA (29.9% shooting) and averaged nearly 4 TOs a game. It was a bit of a bumpy ride for ol' Hank.

With a club option for next season followed by becoming a RFA the year after that, not to mention a new coach and GM in Detroit, it could be a critical year for Henry's NBA future. Hopefully he has a more efficient regular season.


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Quote from: hdog1017 on July 17, 2018, 03:17:39 PM
Kevin Garnett isn't going to coach more athleticism out of Henry Ellenson.

What elements will focus on in coaching Henry?
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Skitch

Quote from: tower912 on July 17, 2018, 10:40:15 AM
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2018/07/16/kevin-garnett-andre-drummond-henry-ellenson/788565002/

Well, if KG can get both of these guys to play with intensity on the defensive end, the Pistons will be in the mix in the neutered East.

He has been working with Thon Maker for at least a year so I wouldn't be too optimistic although he did have that one good playoff game.

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Quote from: WarriorFan on July 18, 2018, 09:25:06 AM
Maybe he can make an impact alongside Harry in the land down under...

https://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Australia/2018/0714_1449_21430.asp?

33 points, 14 rebounds, 5 assissts in 32 minutes with 5 of 8 on 3 point shots.  Maybe MU should look to leave the Big East for the Aussie League.
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Quote from: WarriorFan on July 18, 2018, 09:25:06 AM
Maybe he can make an impact alongside Harry in the land down under...

https://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Australia/2018/0714_1449_21430.asp?

Awesome news. Thanks for posting.

My mind began comparing/contrasting Harry and Henry, and then I realized that was a place I didn't really care to go. They will both find success and lead interesting, relatively low stress lives.

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