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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2018, 07:35:02 PM »
Please speak English.

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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2018, 09:09:38 PM »
Please speak English.

There's a certain word that gets autocorrected on scoop to "pretty boy"
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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2018, 09:13:12 PM »
There's a certain word that gets autocorrected on scoop to "pretty boy"

Which is nevertheless made up entirely of English words.
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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2018, 11:21:09 PM »
Which is nevertheless made up entirely of English words.

Yes, but it doesn't change the "an" to "a" to make it proper english. I assume that's what Stretch was going for.
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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2018, 05:34:29 AM »
Yes, but it doesn't change the "an" to "a" to make it proper english. I assume that's what Stretch was going for.

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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2018, 07:34:01 AM »
My Top Ten Approved Discussion Points for this Off Season

1) The BBQ and the date of July 10th working around family vacations
2) The gall of MU to charge for Aisle seats
3) Is UMBC Elite?
4) When we win the NCAA next year will Trump invite us to the White House?
5) Did MUHilltopper get the Burger King on Port Rd closed to open the Arby's instead?
6) The new on campus Arena, what did Zilber Hall know and when did they know it
7) How will the FiServ Forum Lighting affect Marcus' bid to shoot 80% from 3
8) If you invested $100,000 in the summer of 2007 what would it be worth today
9) Has LeDaryll signed his LOI yet
10) Why are you still reading this list

Where is Tower to give us his post list analysis?

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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2018, 03:06:39 AM »
As a graduate of the 90's (3 NCAA's in 4 years not to brag) LeDaryll was our Jim Chones.

LeDaryll was our Bowie

LeDaryll was our Scooter and Rodney

LeDaryll was our Wolf

LeDaryll was our Darnell V

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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2018, 03:21:18 AM »
The Lens

LeDaryll was a very nice addition. That said, your original post made more sense to me. At this time, I am not worried that Wojo has too much talent to manage. Actually, I am more worried that Wojo can coach up the talent. I am looking forward to the day that too much talent is on campus.

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I agree. Let's see what he does with the talent. Thus far his results have been disappointing.

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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2018, 09:17:23 AM »
Let's see what he does with the talent. Thus far his results have been disappointing.

Disagree. I like the way our program has progressed. Almost a mirror image of Tony Bennett's progression at Virginia. This season and next, barring serious injuries or some other kind of calamity, will tell us if Wojo can or can't coach.

I'm optimistic -- partly because I do believe he will show he can coach, and partly because being optimistic is more productive and calming than being pessimistic.
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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2018, 11:24:10 AM »
Goose

I agree. Let's see what he does with the talent. Thus far his results have been disappointing.

I would say his results have been average so far based on what preseason expectations were compared to how he actually finished.

Year 1: Met expectations of being terrible
Year 2: Fell short of expectations of being an NITish type team
Year 3: Exceeded expectations of no national writers having us in the tournament preseason
Year 4: Met expectations of being an NIT team. In fact, KenPom said we would finish 50th and we finished 53rd.
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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2018, 11:24:24 AM »
Disagree. I like the way our program has progressed. Almost a mirror image of Tony Bennett's progression at Virginia. This season and next, barring serious injuries or some other kind of calamity, will tell us if Wojo can or can't coach.

I'm optimistic -- partly because I do believe he will show he can coach, and partly because being optimistic is more productive and calming than being pessimistic.

I am cautiously optimistic. I do have a healthy skepticism which, as you know, is very different than pessimism. The epistemology on Wojo's potential does not support unbridled optimism.

I have a similar cautious optimism for the football program of another alma mater. In that case, there is no question the man can coach. The issue is whether or not he can overcome the coaching excellence of a rival who has established an impeccable record of sustained distinction.

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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2018, 11:34:45 AM »
At the end of the day, college sports takes a distant back seat to the laughter of an infant, the love of a good woman, or the brilliance of a colleague. Perspective matters.

Speak for yourself, bruh. BallIsLife

Gonna be a fun ride this year. May lose some early ones with a number of very challenging games... this would cause many to b1tch & moan... but by the end of the season, ppl will understand what a special group we have

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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2018, 11:35:53 AM »
I would say his results have been average so far based on what preseason expectations were compared to how he actually finished.

Year 1: Met expectations of being terrible
Year 2: Fell short of expectations of being an NITish type team
Year 3: Exceeded expectations of no national writers having us in the tournament preseason
Year 4: Met expectations of being an NIT team. In fact, KenPom said we would finish 50th and we finished 53rd.

I cannot find fault with what you have written. But life is funny in that what is desired is often very different than what is possible.

For me, given Marquette's commitment to its hoops program, I wish for better results than what we have experienced and what I think could have been possible.

Let's do a comparison. Buzz Williams inherited a far worse situation at VPU. And he plays in the toughest conference in college basketball. In the same amount of time he is posting winning records in the ACC and is now getting his team into the NCAA consistently.

Frankly, VPU's stature and profile is now higher than Marquette's.

Coaching matters. I am not convinced Wojo has the right stuff but I really do want to be proven wrong.
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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2018, 11:44:02 AM »
Speak for yourself, bruh. BallIsLife

Gonna be a fun ride this year. May lose some early ones with a number of very challenging games... this would cause many to b1tch & moan... but by the end of the season, ppl will understand what a special group we have

I trust your insight on this. And I hope we establish a sustained level of excellence. Vander Blue said the best thing about Buzz' teams was that opponents would mutter, 'sh1t, we gotta play those guys again...'

I want nothing more than for Marquette to make every game competitive again as it was under Tanned Tommy and, especially, Buzz.

As for BallIsLife, while I love Marquette hoops I have never thought about buying a couple bottles of Dom then asking Wojo and the boys to spend a long weekend with me at Alderwood on the Hood Canal...

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Re: Wojo has deepest, biggest, strongest roster yet
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2018, 11:47:01 AM »
I cannot find fault with what you have written. But life is funny in that what is desired is often very different than what is possible.

For me, given Marquette's commitment to its hoops program, I wish for better results than what we have experienced and what I think could have been possible.

Let's do a comparison. Buzz Williams inherited a far worse situation at VPU. And he plays in the toughest conference in college basketball. In the same amount of time he is posting winning records in the ACC and is now getting his team into the NCAA consistently.

Frankly, VPU's stature and profile is now higher than Marquette's.

Coaching matters. I am not convinced Wojo has the right stuff but I really do want to be proven wrong.

I don't think many here would dispute that Buzz is a better coach right now than Wojo.  However with Buzz there were certain strings attached that the administration wanted to move away from.  I do think Buzz peaked while at MU (I don't think he will get an E8 at VT, he may if he moves on somewhere else).  Also to many, including some on this board, the only thing that matter is post season success, and Buzz and Wojo have the same number the NCAA tourney wins.

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« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2018, 12:48:57 PM »
I don't think many here would dispute that Buzz is a better coach right now than Wojo. However with Buzz there were certain strings attached that the administration wanted to move away from. I do think Buzz peaked while at MU (I don't think he will get an E8 at VT, he may if he moves on somewhere else).  Also to many, including some on this board, the only thing that matter is post season success, and Buzz and Wojo have the same number the NCAA tourney wins.

When Chicos writes his tell-all book about the Buzz Era...major shoes will drop. 
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« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2018, 02:54:55 PM »
I cannot find fault with what you have written. But life is funny in that what is desired is often very different than what is possible.

For me, given Marquette's commitment to its hoops program, I wish for better results than what we have experienced and what I think could have been possible.

Let's do a comparison. Buzz Williams inherited a far worse situation at VPU. And he plays in the toughest conference in college basketball. In the same amount of time he is posting winning records in the ACC and is now getting his team into the NCAA consistently.

Frankly, VPU's stature and profile is now higher than Marquette's.

Coaching matters. I am not convinced Wojo has the right stuff but I really do want to be proven wrong.

Well like I said, Wojo is average. I'm fine with an average coach in his first few years doing the job  but the expectation is that he grows from average to good and eventually to great. Buzz is an above average coach and shows in his work at VPI. If Wojo continues to be average then I for one will be hoping for a replacement.
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« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2018, 03:13:35 PM »
Speak for yourself, bruh. BallIsLife

Gonna be a fun ride this year. May lose some early ones with a number of very challenging games... this would cause many to b1tch & moan... but by the end of the season, ppl will understand what a special group we have

The group may be special which is a credit to the coaching staff/recruiting.  The question comes down to, do we have anything more than an average, in-game coach?  I've yet to see anything in Wojo that leads me to believe he can coax/squeeze a few more wins out of his teams by being a savvy tactician.

That aside, I can live with a team that is an NCAA tourney team, back of Top 25 - and Wojo seems to have us there at least from a talent/depth perspective now in Year 5.

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« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2018, 04:45:46 PM »
Speak for yourself, bruh. BallIsLife

Gonna be a fun ride this year. May lose some early ones with a number of very challenging games... this would cause many to b1tch & moan... but by the end of the season, ppl will understand what a special group we have

You’ve been on point on this for a while.

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« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2018, 06:33:03 PM »
The group may be special which is a credit to the coaching staff/recruiting.  The question comes down to, do we have anything more than an average, in-game coach?  I've yet to see anything in Wojo that leads me to believe he can coax/squeeze a few more wins out of his teams by being a savvy tactician.

That aside, I can live with a team that is an NCAA tourney team, back of Top 25 - and Wojo seems to have us there at least from a talent/depth perspective now in Year 5.
I have the same expectation this year that I did last year. We will be top 3 in the Big East and make it to the second weekend of the tournament. Last year we missed the top 3 in the Big East by one game and made it to the second weekend equivalent of the wrong tournament.

Although our schedule is tougher this year, I am figuring in the new arena  with its better lower bowl configuration, may give us more of home court advantage. We may be back to the time with Buzz where we had a very formidable record at home.

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« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2018, 08:26:03 PM »
Speak for yourself, bruh. BallIsLife

Gonna be a fun ride this year. May lose some early ones with a number of very challenging games... this would cause many to b1tch & moan... but by the end of the season, ppl will understand what a special group we have

We agree.

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