Injury Analysis and Early Season Rotation

[Herman Cain]

Wojo,on the schedule and some injury updates

https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/574832002?__twitter_impression=true

Looks like Sam has a long way to go on his rehab.   He may not be fully ready by the start of the season.  Given the tough pre season schedule what are the potential rotations we may see?  Do we play the young guys a lot more and sav Sams minutes for the big games? Or do we let him use the cupcakes to work him self into shape?  Also it could be possible that Sam does not get cleared until well into the season and then takes an injury redshirt, that tactic is one that Buzz was alwayss a big advocate of ( Duane Wilson, Ahmed Hill). I think Sam is an all Big East level player and it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Looks like Sam has a long way to go on his rehab.   He may not be fully ready by the start of the season.  Given the tough pre season schedule what are the potential rotations we may see?  Do we play the young guys a lot more and sav Sams minutes for the big games? Or do we let him use the cupcakes to work him self into shape?  Also it could be possible that Sam does not get cleared until well into the season and then takes an injury redshirt, that tactic is one that Buzz was alwayss a big advocate of ( Duane Wilson, Ahmed Hill). I think Sam is an all Big East level player and it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

The article says that Sam's rehab is supposed to be complete in 4 months. That's September 2nd...2 months before the first game. Unless there is a complication he should be good to go.

[MuMark]

Looks like Sam has a long way to go on his rehab.   He may not be fully ready by the start of the season.  Given the tough pre season schedule what are the potential rotations we may see?  Do we play the young guys a lot more and sav Sams minutes for the big games? Or do we let him use the cupcakes to work him self into shape?  Also it could be possible that Sam does not get cleared until well into the season and then takes an injury redshirt, that tactic is one that Buzz was alwayss a big advocate of ( Duane Wilson, Ahmed Hill). I think Sam is an all Big East level player and it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Calm down dude.

By all accounts Sam will be fine......plenty of time to panic later

[Herman Cain]

Calm down dude.

By all accounts Sam will be fine......plenty of time to panic later

It is one thing to be healthy and another thing to be D1 athletic healthy. No one is panicking. Just putting it out there for discussion.

[PGsHeroes32]

It is one thing to be healthy and another thing to be D1 athletic healthy. No one is panicking. Just putting it out there for discussion.

Talking about a damn medical redshirt when his recovery date is 2 months before the season even starts is pretty panicky.

[wadesworld]

Herman is now not only relative to every player and recruit with an MU connection, he is also team doctor.

[lohaus]

Plenty of time. It isn't like he is sitting around deteriorating as we speak and not working on other things.  I'm sure the staff will progress him as tolerated.

[NorthernDancerColt]

Calm down dude.

By all accounts Sam will be fine......plenty of time to panic later

I agree, but given the combination of the wonders of modern medicine and our blueGold blooded fanaticism, sometimes we alums and fans talk about our beloved warriors as if they are machines. Having your hip operated on at Sam's young age is a major, major thing. The good news is that his age will only speed the recovery time, but it's still a very big deal. He's most likely not going to miss any time, however I don't care if he has to sit out the entire first semester, as long as the kid has a healthy hip and gait for life. He's going to earn money at some level playing this game, and protecting that earning power is more important than rushing him back if there are any tiny issues whatsoever. I think that's all Herman was getting at. What makes Marquette great is that pretty much every single one of us is in agreement on how much we value all these kids as people first.

[fjm]

Looks like Sam has a long way to go on his rehab.   He may not be fully ready by the start of the season.  Given the tough pre season schedule what are the potential rotations we may see?  Do we play the young guys a lot more and sav Sams minutes for the big games? Or do we let him use the cupcakes to work him self into shape?  Also it could be possible that Sam does not get cleared until well into the season and then takes an injury redshirt, that tactic is one that Buzz was alwayss a big advocate of ( Duane Wilson, Ahmed Hill). I think Sam is an all Big East level player and it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Gonna be tough to get back on the court with Wojo constantly demotivating sams hip every day in physical therapy. 

But I'll play along:

I think it san can't start the year which I again believe is extremely unlikely,
I think you see Sacar/cain starting and playing more minutes. That's about the only difference I see.

[warriorchick]

I try not to worry about things unless there's actually something to worry about.

Worrying in general is a waste of emotional energy.

[Anti-Dentite]

I try not to worry about things unless there's actually something to worry about.

Worrying in general is a waste of emotional energy.

I'm worried that you're not taking worrying seriously enough.

[Uncle Rico]

Looks like Sam has a long way to go on his rehab.   He may not be fully ready by the start of the season.  Given the tough pre season schedule what are the potential rotations we may see?  Do we play the young guys a lot more and sav Sams minutes for the big games? Or do we let him use the cupcakes to work him self into shape?  Also it could be possible that Sam does not get cleared until well into the season and then takes an injury redshirt, that tactic is one that Buzz was alwayss a big advocate of ( Duane Wilson, Ahmed Hill). I think Sam is an all Big East level player and it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

There’s a better chance of you dunking a basketball than Sam Hauser taking a medical redshirt

[tower912]

I'll bite. A corollary that must be addressed is the health of everybody else while Sam languishes.  The good news is that there is abundant depth.  So, Sam heals slowly and has to red shirt.  This actually benefits many people.  Sacar, Morrow, Cain, Joey, and Bailey are competing for 30 minutes per game that just opened up.  The problem isn't  whether there is an adequate replacement.  The question that cannot be answered in May is who steps up?

[Bocephys]

I'm worried that you're not taking worrying seriously enough.

I'm worried you worry too much about others' worrying

[MU82]

There’s a better chance of you dunking a basketball than Sam Hauser taking a medical redshirt

Good thing you're talkin' to 9-9-9 and not Ners, or else we'd be in trouble!

[Tha Hound]

Looks like Sam has a long way to go on his rehab.   He may not be fully ready by the start of the season.  Given the tough pre season schedule what are the potential rotations we may see?  Do we play the young guys a lot more and sav Sams minutes for the big games? Or do we let him use the cupcakes to work him self into shape?  Also it could be possible that Sam does not get cleared until well into the season and then takes an injury redshirt, that tactic is one that Buzz was alwayss a big advocate of ( Duane Wilson, Ahmed Hill). I think Sam is an all Big East level player and it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Quite literally the definition of fake news

[warriorchick]

I'm worried you worry too much about others' worrying

I am a member of the Aaron Rogers School of Zen.

[UWW2MU]

The medical redshirt part was a bit of a stretch... but just for discussion sake, if Sam has some delays in progress and minutes need to be divided up, who's most likely stepping up?

I'm just very conflicted on how the team will shake out next year.  I mean this in a good way.  There just seems to be a wealth of talent fighting for minutes and I leave it to the much more knowledgeable scoop minds out there to sort it out for me!

[Anti-Dentite]

I'm worried you worry too much about others' worrying

That worries me.

[barfolomew]

I am a member of the Aaron Rogers School of Zen.

Is that where you go to learn to be a mechanic who fixes sinks?

[jsglow]

Is that where you go to learn to be a mechanic who fixes sinks?

Our sink is broken?  Now I'm worried.

[Newsdreams]

That worries me.

What, me worry?

[Herman Cain]

What, me worry?

[willie warrior]

Is that where you go to learn to be a mechanic who fixes sinks?

No, that is where you go to learn how to be Danica Patrick's mechanic. Or at least a member of the pit crew. Imagine the torque that needs to be applied to the lug wrench.

[bilsu]

The only way Sam medical redshirts is if he gets shut down after playing. He can just redshirt if he is not ready.

[vogue65]

Our sink is broken?  Now I'm worried.

Is it a pedestal sink?  If so, good reason to worry, what a pain.  Did one today.

(Screw the retaining nut back onto the sink drain to secure the pivot rod. Test the replacement pop-up drain plug by pulling up on the stopper-rod lever connected to the faucet. This causes the drain plug to close the sink drain. Pushing down on the lever opens the drain.)

It took all the Zen I could muster.   

[Jay Bee]

Also it could be possible that Sam does not get cleared until well into the season and then takes an injury redshirt, that tactic is one that Buzz was alwayss a big advocate of ( Duane Wilson, Ahmed Hill).

If he's cleared during the season, he would not be eligible for an 'injury redshirt' bka a medical hardship waiver. 

[IrwinFletcher]

https://twitter.com/davehouz/status/995308810788048898?s=21

Good sign.

[Nukem2]

https://twitter.com/davehouz/status/995308810788048898?s=21

Good sign.

Must be home now between exams and start of summer session #1.

[jsglow]

Yep.  Exams are over and summer classes starts a week from Monday.

Also, while timetables are never exact, doncha think that MU's medical staff knew what Hauser was facing when the NIT games were being played and if they thought there was even a 5% chance it would impact next year they just might have accelerated surgery? 

[GGGG]

Yep.  Exams are over and summer classes starts a week from Monday.

Also, while timetables are never exact, doncha think that MU's medical staff knew what Hauser was facing when the NIT games were being played and if they thought there was even a 5% chance it would impact next year they just might have accelerated surgery? 

Hold on.  You're claiming that the Marquette medical staff knew more than the Scoop community about Sam's rehabilitation schedule?  That's absurd.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Hold on.  You're claiming that the Marquette medical staff knew more than the Scoop community about Sam's rehabilitation schedule?  That's absurd dumb and dangerous.

[jsglow]

Hold on.  You're claiming that the Marquette medical staff knew more than the Scoop community about Sam's rehabilitation schedule?  That's absurd.

What the h*ll was I thinking!  Thanks for point it out.

[Newsdreams]

What the h*ll was I thinking!  Thanks for point it out.

You need to go to Arby's

[MUDPT]

Yep.  Exams are over and summer classes starts a week from Monday.

Also, while timetables are never exact, doncha think that MU's medical staff knew what Hauser was facing when the NIT games were being played and if they thought there was even a 5% chance it would impact next year they just might have accelerated surgery?

Meh. There's still a crutch on the ground and you don't need a ton of hip ROM at his height to shoot free throws. NO ONE has an idea right now if he will be healthy enough for the season, just hope so.

[GGGG]

Meh. There's still a crutch on the ground and you don't need a ton of hip ROM at his height to shoot free throws. NO ONE has an idea right now if he will be healthy enough for the season, just hope so.

"No one has an idea?" 

No one knows 100% for sure, but people make injury prognostications all the time based on experience and other factors.  I'm pretty sure that counts as "an idea."

[MUDPT]

"No one has an idea?" 

No one knows 100% for sure, but people make injury prognostications all the time based on experience and other factors.  I'm pretty sure that counts as "an idea."

Sure.

Now find me a consensus protocol for FAI labral repair.  This is not an ACL repair where we have decades of research to use to best guess, just kind of a limited educated guess.

[GGGG]

Sure.

Now find me a consensus protocol for FAI labral repair.  This is not an ACL repair where we have decades of research to use to best guess, just kind of a limited educated guess.

Well I'll defer to you on that...

[brewcity77]

Sure.

Now find me a consensus protocol for FAI labral repair.  This is not an ACL repair where we have decades of research to use to best guess, just kind of a limited educated guess.

If only they had sports medicine professionals focused on him. Oh wait...they do...

[jsglow]

I'll pull out 'dumb and dangerous' for all you armchairs out there who haven't spent one second personally examining Sam or any other player on our team.  That is all.

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=22875321

[MUDPT]

I get the feeling that most on here believe it's a 99% chance that he comes back 100% before the season starts. Those of us (I talked to a couple of more PTs today) who have worked with people with this surgery from Dr. Nho, believe it's more towards 70%. I think he will be fine and I hope so, just not as confident as everyone else. And to be clear, I think the medical staff at MU is great. This surgery can be a big mystery some times, hince the hesitancy.

[#UnleashSean]

I get the feeling that most on here believe it's a 99% chance that he comes back 100% before the season starts. Those of us (I talked to a couple of more PTs today) who have worked with people with this surgery from Dr. Nho, believe it's more towards 70%. I think he will be fine and I hope so, just not as confident as everyone else. And to be clear, I think the medical staff at MU is great. This surgery can be a big mystery some times, hince the hesitancy.

PTs also have to adjust for a very fit athlete who works out everyday. As apposed to a 43 year old who plays slow pitch.

[MUDPT]

PTs also have to adjust for a very fit athlete who works out everyday. As apposed to a 43 year old who plays slow pitch.

Hmmmm, you mean like the MLB, NFL, NBA and WPSL athletes I've worked with in the past? FYI, slow pitch softball players are not the typical patients for this surgery.

For those of you who are interested, here's an article from The Athletic, who had both of his hips done. https://theathletic.com/339546/2018/05/03/is-kevon-looney-playing-himself-out-of-the-warriors-offseason-price-range/ It gives a little insight into timeframes.

[jsglow]

I get the feeling that most on here believe it's a 99% chance that he comes back 100% before the season starts. Those of us (I talked to a couple of more PTs today) who have worked with people with this surgery from Dr. Nho, believe it's more towards 70%. I think he will be fine and I hope so, just not as confident as everyone else. And to be clear, I think the medical staff at MU is great. This surgery can be a big mystery some times, hince the hesitancy.

It's not that as I see it.  I think most folks think that the treatment that Sam received and the timing of that treatment was 100% undertaken in SAM'S best interest without regards to wins, losses during the '17-'18 season.  It almost seems more like a congenital defect that was someday going to need invasive treatment if Sam were to continue playing sports at an elite level.  Anyway, Sam is in the hands of the best medical personnel available and we'll see how quickly he progresses to 100%.

[4everwarriors]

O, sew he's in Indianapolis, aina?

[Nukem2]

It's not that as I see it.  I think most folks think that the treatment that Sam received and the timing of that treatment was 100% undertaken in SAM'S best interest without regards to wins, losses during the '17-'18 season.  It almost seems more like a congenital defect that was someday going to need invasive treatment if Sam were to continue playing sports at an elite level.  Anyway, Sam is in the hands of the best medical personnel available and we'll see how quickly he progresses to 100%.

I suspect he will progress as the season moves along.  Hard to see that he will be 100% on 11/6/18.  Maybe, he will surprise us, but who knows.

[dgies9156]

I suspect he will progress as the season moves along.  Hard to see that he will be 100% on 11/6/18.  Maybe, he will surprise us, but who knows.

Now that sports betting will be legal in far more states, this could be something to wager on!

[Herman Cain]

Interesting post from Stan Johnson on freshman playing time.
https://twitter.com/MUCoachJohnson/status/999458294161952768

[awilhelmscream]

Interesting post from Stan Johnson on freshman playing time.
https://twitter.com/MUCoachJohnson/status/999458294161952768

That’s not interesting at all if you watched the video.  That’s been this staff’s MO from the beginning.  Kids see more time after they start to “figure it out”, find their flow within the offense, and aren’t entirely lost on defense.  Look at Greg and Jamal last year and their playing time as the season went on.

[barfolomew]

Is this a young marsupial of either sex that I spy hiding behind Brendan Bailey (I think?) in this video?

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1001576160868945921

[We R Final Four]

BB is taller than Theo!

[Galway Eagle]

Is this a young marsupial of either sex that I spy hiding behind Brendan Bailey (I think?) in this video?

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1001576160868945921

Neither Hauser suited up? #soft

[wadesworld]

Neither Hauser suited up? #soft

Incorrect.

Is this a young marsupial of either sex that I spy hiding behind Brendan Bailey (I think?) in this video?

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1001576160868945921

Correct.

[Galway Eagle]

Incorrect.

Correct.

Seriously Wades you think I was serious? Somebody post the "lighten up Francis" Gif from Stripes please

[Newsdreams]

Protect! Protect! Protect! Hey?

[wadesworld]

Seriously Wades you think I was serious? Somebody post the "lighten up Francis" Gif from Stripes please

...one of the Hausers is suited up.

[Galway Eagle]

...one of the Hausers is suited up.

Where? I see an arm but no face that'd confirm it's a Hauser?

[Dr. Blackheart]

Is this a young marsupial of either sex that I spy hiding behind Brendan Bailey (I think?) in this video?

Harry's returning, hey?

[barfolomew]

Harry's returning, hey?

Sorry, harkening back to an old, long lost thread in which we discussed the definition of a "joey".

[wadesworld]

MUBB posted a video today.  Jamal, Greg, and Ike all fully participating in workouts it looked like.

Sam off crutches and in workout gear but just making passes to shooters in drills.

McEwen's shot looks pretty.

Bailey is big but looks slow footed/unsure of himself defensively.

Greg and Jamal still rail thin.

Didn't see Joey or Markus.

[MuMark]

https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1004857350405214208?s=21

[KampusFoods]

https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1004857350405214208?s=21

Koby looks good

[Dr. Blackheart]

Koby looks good

Wojo looks a bit more portly.

[barfolomew]

Wojo looks a bit more portly.

Maybe he tweaked the #mubb slogan this spring:

Wine Every Day^TM