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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #125 on: May 09, 2018, 12:56:10 PM »
Just pulled the schedule up.

They have:

11/06: UMBC (home)
11/10: TBA (home - preseason NIT)
11/17: TBA (home - preseason NIT)
11/21: Kansas/Lou/Tenn (Preseason NIT)
11/23: Kansas/Lou/Tenn (Preseason NIT)
11/27: TBA (home)
12/1: K state (home)
12/4: TBA (home)
12/8: Wisconsin (home)
12/18: TBA (home)
12/21: Buffalo (home)
12/28: Southern (home)

So still 3 TBA buy games, and 2 NIT preseason home games opponents to be announced.

Hopefully a home and home road game is still in the works, because I am going to pull my hair out if MU only schedules 12 non-con games and leaves another game on the table AGAIN this season.
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #126 on: May 09, 2018, 01:03:54 PM »
Look at the OP, which I've updated as we have gone along. We are almost certain to play a road Gavitt Game. Everything else is locked into a location. If we were playing another home-and-home, that December 28 spot would've been it.

Aha.  I had momentarily forgotten about Gavitt Game.

I can't recall, has it been confirmed that we are in fact getting a Gavitt game this season?
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #127 on: May 09, 2018, 01:20:23 PM »
Remember, tge KemPom tank of teams you play doesn’t impact your RPI. In fact, the RPI of teams you play doesn’t impact your RPI.

Southern was 13-18 for RPI purposes and had a winning record in their conference - which will again be overall a conf they could win many games in. You could find a lot worse.

I'm aware that KenPom doesn't impact RPI, but it does give you an idea of how good a team is. And one of 26 worst teams in the country last season losing 4 starters doesn't give me a lot of confidence that they will be able to repeat their 13-18 performance from last season. They were able to beat up on the rest of the SWAC last season, but I would guess that they finish with a losing conference record next season...which is doubly bad because we get hit with their bad W/L record and an opponent's opponents' record made up of a bunch of SWAC teams.
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #128 on: May 09, 2018, 01:21:42 PM »
Aha.  I had momentarily forgotten about Gavitt Game.

I can't recall, has it been confirmed that we are in fact getting a Gavitt game this season?

We sat out the Gavitt Games 16-17’ season. We got a few years in the rotation now
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #129 on: May 09, 2018, 01:22:20 PM »
I'm aware that KenPom doesn't impact RPI, but it does give you an idea of how good a team is. And one of 26 worst teams in the country last season losing 4 starters doesn't give me a lot of confidence that they will be able to repeat their 13-18 performance from last season. They were able to beat up on the rest of the SWAC last season, but I would guess that they finish with a losing conference record next season...which is doubly bad because we get hit with their bad W/L record and an opponent's opponents' record made up of a bunch of SWAC teams.

"Never schedule a SWAC team" should be on every high major AD's to do list. 
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #130 on: May 09, 2018, 01:33:02 PM »
"Never schedule a SWAC team" should be on every high major AD's to do list.

Not necessarily. If you can get one of the top 3 teams in the SWAC that is a quality a buy game from an RPI perspective. Even if they are sub 300 in RPI themselves, they can rack up wins against the other terrible SWAC teams and their W/L record will benefit your team more than the opponent's opponents' record will hurt you.

My problem with Southern is that I think they end up in the bottom half of the SWAC this season. But again, every schedule has at least one dog on it. With the roster we have this season we should be worried about seeding, not making the tourney. I don't think beating the snot out of Southern will hurt our seeding all that much.
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #131 on: May 09, 2018, 01:44:09 PM »
Not necessarily. If you can get one of the top 3 teams in the SWAC that is a quality a buy game from an RPI perspective. Even if they are sub 300 in RPI themselves, they can rack up wins against the other terrible SWAC teams and their W/L record will benefit your team more than the opponent's opponents' record will hurt you.

My problem with Southern is that I think they end up in the bottom half of the SWAC this season. But again, every schedule has at least one dog on it. With the roster we have this season we should be worried about seeding, not making the tourney. I don't think beating the snot out of Southern will hurt our seeding all that much.

I was kind of kidding, but it is playing with fire, especially for teams close to the cutline.
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #132 on: May 09, 2018, 02:16:12 PM »
"Never schedule a SWAC team" should be on every high major AD's to do list.
RPI wise, yes. Cost, maybe not.
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #133 on: May 09, 2018, 02:23:37 PM »
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #134 on: May 09, 2018, 02:25:54 PM »
"Never schedule a SWAC team" should be on every high major AD's to do list.

This created a question in my mind as MU almost always has a SWAC team or two on the schedule.  I looked at the BE teams last season and only DePaul and Creighton had a SWAC team scheduled.

Does MU have a connection going back in history or was it tied to moral reasons in order to support southern primarily AA schools? It can't just be cost.
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #135 on: May 09, 2018, 02:39:33 PM »
This created a question in my mind as MU almost always has a SWAC team or two on the schedule.  I looked at the BE teams last season and only DePaul and Creightin had a SWAC team scheduled.

Does MU have a connection going back in history or was it tied to moral reasons in order to support southern primarily AA schools? In can't just be cost.
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #136 on: May 09, 2018, 03:33:52 PM »
Not necessarily. If you can get one of the top 3 teams in the SWAC that is a quality a buy game from an RPI perspective. Even if they are sub 300 in RPI themselves, they can rack up wins against the other terrible SWAC teams and their W/L record will benefit your team more than the opponent's opponents' record will hurt you.

My problem with Southern is that I think they end up in the bottom half of the SWAC this season. But again, every schedule has at least one dog on it. With the roster we have this season we should be worried about seeding, not making the tourney. I don't think beating the snot out of Southern will hurt our seeding all that much.

My one concern is that Southern has a new coach. That said, they have averaged over 16 D1 wins the past 6 seasons. Also, many of the SWAC teams reload quickly with JUCOs (Southern has at least two JUCO commits for next year) which leads to their rosters often being even more fluid than most D1 schools. They've won double-digit SWAC games for the past 7 years. Sure, they could end up being a bust, but I think if that's your worst opponent, it's a pretty solid worst opponent.

Now if we end up with 2-3 more schools like that, I'll be more concerned.
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« Reply #137 on: May 09, 2018, 10:10:47 PM »
My one concern is that Southern has a new coach. That said, they have averaged over 16 D1 wins the past 6 seasons. Also, many of the SWAC teams reload quickly with JUCOs (Southern has at least two JUCO commits for next year) which leads to their rosters often being even more fluid than most D1 schools. They've won double-digit SWAC games for the past 7 years. Sure, they could end up being a bust, but I think if that's your worst opponent, it's a pretty solid worst opponent.

Now if we end up with 2-3 more schools like that, I'll be more concerned.
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« Reply #138 on: May 09, 2018, 11:57:06 PM »
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #139 on: May 10, 2018, 02:51:37 AM »
This created a question in my mind as MU almost always has a SWAC team or two on the schedule.  I looked at the BE teams last season and only DePaul and Creighton had a SWAC team scheduled.

Does MU have a connection going back in history or was it tied to moral reasons in order to support southern primarily AA schools? It can't just be cost.

It May be something that Wojo got from Coach K, last year Duke played Southern #326 (326 in 17), 16-17 Maine #337 (336 in 16), 15-16 Bryant #346 (236 in 15 however had others in 250's scheduled), 14-15 Presbyterian #326 (349 in 14)and Furman #309 (342 in 14) 

I can't find this years schedule but history would suggest that Duke will play at least one team that ended last season in the 300's and/or ends 18-19 in the 300's.

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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #140 on: May 10, 2018, 02:25:23 PM »
Help me out here guys.  Does the addition of Southern fill our full dance card this year?  I'm totally up for a warm up as the Christmas turkey digests and prior to conference.  Are we back to 31 games?

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« Reply #141 on: May 10, 2018, 02:35:51 PM »
Help me out here guys.  Does the addition of Southern fill our full dance card this year?  I'm totally up for a warm up as the Christmas turkey digests and prior to conference.  Are we back to 31 games?

I believe so, unless one of the games they currently listed as home and TBA (there are 3 of them) ends up being a Gavitt game. 
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« Reply #142 on: May 10, 2018, 02:43:16 PM »
I believe so, unless one of the games they currently listed as home and TBA (there are 3 of them) ends up being a Gavitt game.
The TBA dates (3) is a home games. Should be 20 total homes for Marquette. Which includes the exhibition game in that number.
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Re: 2018-19 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #143 on: May 10, 2018, 02:49:33 PM »
Just pulled the schedule up.

They have:

11/06: UMBC (home)
11/10: TBA (home - preseason NIT)
11/17: TBA (home - preseason NIT)
11/21: Kansas/Lou/Tenn (Preseason NIT)
11/23: Kansas/Lou/Tenn (Preseason NIT)
11/27: TBA (home)
12/1: K state (home)
12/4: TBA (home)
12/8: Wisconsin (home)
12/18: TBA (home)
12/21: Buffalo (home)
12/28: Southern (home)

So still 3 TBA buy games, and 2 NIT preseason home games opponents to be announced.

Hopefully a home and home road game is still in the works, because I am going to pull my hair out if MU only schedules 12 non-con games and leaves another game on the table AGAIN this season.

EDIT: Missing / was forgetting TBA Gavitt B10 road game.  That would get us to 13.

Are those dates the dates that are open and scheduled for the new arena? Why can't we schedule an OCC in January or February like some other BE teams do.

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« Reply #144 on: May 10, 2018, 03:23:56 PM »
Are those dates the dates that are open and scheduled for the new arena? Why can't we schedule an OCC in January or February like some other BE teams do.

We are expecting a road Gavitt Game which fills our 13 available dates.
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« Reply #145 on: May 10, 2018, 06:03:05 PM »
Are those dates the dates that are open and scheduled for the new arena? Why can't we schedule an OCC in January or February like some other BE teams do.

Marquette used to do that quite a bit. There was nothing worse than watching Stenson in January during the middle of the conference slate.
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« Reply #146 on: May 10, 2018, 06:17:14 PM »
Marquette used to do that wuite a bit. There was nothing worse than watching Stenson in January during the middle of the conference slate.

Yeah, but Wake Forest in January was nothing short of awesome.
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« Reply #147 on: May 10, 2018, 06:29:32 PM »
Yeah, but Wake Forest in January was nothing short of awesome.
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« Reply #148 on: May 10, 2018, 06:29:44 PM »
Yeah, but Wake Forest in January was nothing short of awesome.
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« Reply #149 on: May 10, 2018, 06:59:54 PM »
That was a Sunday ABC game. Great afternoon that was!
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