Wojo's future

[Eldon]

No.  Don't recall us finishing 5-13 in conference, with 2 defeats coming in double OT, and 2 more defeats coming in OT.  We were 4-14 with 2 OT games. 

GTown was thought to be a dumpster fire this year.  Went to OT with Syracuse.  They went to OT against Butler and Xavier.  Took us to OT.  Actually beat Butler this year, which qualifies as a better win than we achieved this year per Pomeroy.

So.  All in all.  A "decent" first year by Ewing benchmarked against expectations and Year 1 under Wojo. 

What's your best guess as to where GTown will be in Year 4 of the Ewing regime?

This would be a great poll.

[tower912]

Also predicted to finish around 7th in the Big East.  Marquette was who they thought we would be.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Also predicted to finish around 7th in the Big East.  Marquette was who they thought we would be.

And was one game out of 3rd place (and 4 games out of 8th).

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Hats off to Wojo for overachieving this year.  I mean, our defense was awful, right?  Like 175 bad.  Yet Wojo somehow squeezed all he could out of this awful defensive team.  He took that 175th ranked defense and turned it into a top 55 Ken Pom team.

Kudos to Wojo!

[Charlotte Warrior]

Hats off to Wojo for overachieving this year.  I mean, our defense was awful, right?  Like 175 bad.  Yet Wojo somehow squeezed all he could out of this awful defensive team.  He took that 175th ranked defense and turned it into a top 55 Ken Pom team.

Kudos to Wojo!

I agree!!   I mean heck yeah, meeting expectations is Awesome!!!  Give him a Huge Raise !  YEAH!!!  Wojo's also a great coach because he has moved expectations so low, he'll always meet them.   YEAH!!   He's gonna be here forever!    Let's Celebrate.  Everyone, start hitting Twitter thanking Wojo for meeting expectations.   Makes me so happy.   7th place, just missed out on 4th.   WOHOOO!

[WhiteTrash]

Hats off to Wojo for overachieving this year.  I mean, our defense was awful, right?  Like 175 bad.  Yet Wojo somehow squeezed all he could out of this awful defensive team.  He took that 175th ranked defense and turned it into a top 55 Ken Pom team.

Kudos to Wojo!

Agreed. He just needs to get rid of the guy who is giving him these awful defensive players, then MU will be really good again.

[willie warrior]

If Lovell felt this was a great season, either he has little interest in being a big time program or he has too much Panther blood in him. In  today's twitter world I would have expected a similar type tweet from MU. IMO, I hope it is simply window dressing and not what the expectations from the university are for the program.

Well said, Goose. As long as Lovell and all the Wojo Kool Aiders keep loving the mediocrity of current performance, MU will remain just that--MIDDLE OF THE PACK TO BOTTOM TIER BEAST, with an occasional lucky trip to the dance and 1st round loss.

[willie warrior]

And was one game out of 3rd place (and 4 games out of 8th).

Wooda, cooda, shooda spin.

[Galway Eagle]

Wooda, cooda, shooda spin.

Willie if wed beaten Depaul and gotten third you'd still be griping. Your posts honestly amount to someone shouting "I like being pissed off"

[willie warrior]

What program in the Big East is a realistic benchmark for you?

Well, considering all the gurus here that keep throwing out the lame defense of Wojo by comparing him to Wright at Villanova, then the Benchmark should be Villanova. Hopefully we get there next year, rather than later, because after all, we will be really, really good next year. And Wojo will have all of his guys to make up for any that he made a mistake on. Thats it, we need to wait until we are sure that Wojo's guys all are performing at high level, before we establish expectations. Yes, now we need to offer up the excuse that we need bigger Guards, including a 6 foot 8 PG, ala Magic, that will ensure BEast superiority.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Well, considering all the gurus here that keep throwing out the lame defense of Wojo by comparing him to Wright at Villanova, then the Benchmark should be Villanova. Hopefully we get there next year, rather than later, because after all, we will be really, really good next year. And Wojo will have all of his guys to make up for any that he made a mistake on. Thats it, we need to wait until we are sure that Wojo's guys all are performing at high level, before we establish expectations. Yes, now we need to offer up the excuse that we need bigger Guards, including a 6 foot 8 PG, ala Magic, that will ensure BEast superiority.

wee whining.  What's new?

[willie warrior]

Willie if wed beaten Depaul and gotten third you'd still be griping. Your posts honestly amount to someone shouting "I like being pissed off"

I like your if
Did not know that you were a psychologist. Or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn Express.

[5DollarPitcher]

Well, considering all the gurus here that keep throwing out the lame defense of Wojo by comparing him to Wright at Villanova, then the Benchmark should be Villanova. Hopefully we get there next year, rather than later, because after all, we will be really, really good next year. And Wojo will have all of his guys to make up for any that he made a mistake on. Thats it, we need to wait until we are sure that Wojo's guys all are performing at high level, before we establish expectations. Yes, now we need to offer up the excuse that we need bigger Guards, including a 6 foot 8 PG, ala Magic, that will ensure BEast superiority.

Oh man. Wojo defenders will cry foul but this is truly what it sounds like.

On another note - if anyone is a member of the Marquette Ticket Exchange on Facebook, go view some of the posts and comments that went mini-viral there to get a pulse on the student body. I would say they are more willie than anyone else.

[GGGG]

Dude, willie complained when Buzz was leading MU to an E8 appearance.  willie complains about everything.

[Galway Eagle]

I like your if
Did not know that you were a psychologist. Or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn Express.

Dude, willie complained when Buzz was leading MU to an E8 appearance.  willie complains about everything.

What Sultan said is all the evidence I need

[mujivitz06]

Lovell is far better tweeter than public speaker. Maybe he can tweet at graduation.

Boy Goose you should change your handle to Palm Tree the way you're throwing shade around lately!

[muguru]

I don't have a KenPom subscription, but I'm pretty sure that Butler, Creighton, and Providence were all projected to go into the NCAA tournament preseason. If you go by KenPom, Providence actually massively underachieved. They were rated in the 70s by KenPom, one of the lowest in history for an at large team.

The reality is, we ended up exactly where we were supposed to. We just don't like the reality that those expectations were outside the NCAA tournament.

Well, if you go by the preseason Big East Coaches poll...Butler was picked to finish 8th...behind MU..They definitely overachieved based on that.

[Golden Avalanche]

Well, considering all the gurus here that keep throwing out the lame defense of Wojo by comparing him to Wright at Villanova, then the Benchmark should be Villanova. Hopefully we get there next year, rather than later, because after all, we will be really, really good next year. And Wojo will have all of his guys to make up for any that he made a mistake on. Thats it, we need to wait until we are sure that Wojo's guys all are performing at high level, before we establish expectations. Yes, now we need to offer up the excuse that we need bigger Guards, including a 6 foot 8 PG, ala Magic, that will ensure BEast superiority.

Which part of the Jay Wright era?

The part where he won nine games in both his sixth and seventh seasons as coach?

The part where he averaged eight conference wins in his 10th, 11th, and 12th seasons?

The part where he hasn't made it out of the first weekend of the NCAA in 11 of his 17 seasons as coach?

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Dude, willie complained when Buzz was leading MU to an E8 appearance.  willie complains about everything.

I always think of this song whenever willie posts.  25 years ago this bar/club in New Haven called Boppers used to love playing this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM6I-pmV0RA

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Well, if you go by the preseason Big East Coaches poll...Butler was picked to finish 8th...behind MU..They definitely overachieved based on that.

So getting 6th (tied for 7th) instead of 8th in conference....I guess that's over-achievement. Pretty insignificant over-achievement but if that's how you want to set your goals.

And if that's your standard, than Marquette met expectations!

[Charlotte Warrior]

Which part of the Jay Wright era?

The part where he won nine games in both his sixth and seventh seasons as coach?

The part where he averaged eight conference wins in his 10th, 11th, and 12th seasons?

The part where he hasn't made it out of the first weekend of the NCAA in 11 of his 17 seasons as coach?

If your plan to defend Wojo starts by ripping Jay Wright and what he's accomplished for Nova. Wow, just Wow.

[bilsu]

I expect Georgetown to pass up MU in the near future.  Not because Ewing is a better coach than Wojo. It is because I believe the Georgetown program is more likely to recruit top bigmen. As John Wooden said the better coach is the one with the better players.

[LAZER]

No.  Don't recall us finishing 5-13 in conference, with 2 defeats coming in double OT, and 2 more defeats coming in OT.  We were 4-14 with 2 OT games. 

GTown was thought to be a dumpster fire this year.  Went to OT with Syracuse.  They went to OT against Butler and Xavier.  Took us to OT.  Actually beat Butler this year, which qualifies as a better win than we achieved this year per Pomeroy.

So.  All in all.  A "decent" first year by Ewing benchmarked against expectations and Year 1 under Wojo. 

What's your best guess as to where GTown will be in Year 4 of the Ewing regime?

Purely on results, Wojo and Ewing's first years are very similar. 

For Ewing & Georgetown's future - my guess is next year they'll be better, maybe 8 BE wins?  Year 3: They lose Govan and Derrickson, so I doubt they'll see much improvement vs year 2.  Year 4: Too hard to tell without knowing what recruits they'll have.  So if I had to guess - in year 4 they might be a bubble team? But it's really hard to guess at this point.

[Galway Eagle]

I expect Georgetown to pass up MU in the near future.  Not because Ewing is a better coach than Wojo. It is because I believe the Georgetown program is more likely to recruit top bigmen. As John Wooden said the better coach is the one with the better players.

College basketball is a guards game. Ewing could for sure pass us 10 years ago when classic bigs still mattered.

[willie warrior]

wee whining.  What's new?

Who is we? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?