Loyola

[muwarrior69]

C'mon BPB, I know you are going to root for the Ramblers.  You cannot possibly not root for this team.

This is why college basketball is superior to college football. Any D1 team has a shot, not just the chosen few.

[Floorslapper]

They went 0-7 against the top 3 of the big 12

Kstate is not a good team.

They also beat a 16 seed to get here.

Tourney is crazy, things happen. On paper this Kstate team is not very talented

It's almost beyond belief that a team such as K State, without a senior, and largely without their best player available was able to get to the Elite 8. As we all know, you shouldn't expect much out of a young team.

[JakeBarnes]

LU looks like such a Rick coached team.  All the nuanced play. I am really enjoying this run.

Rick has to be smiling.

[Galway Eagle]

It's almost beyond belief that a team such as K State, without a senior, and largely without their best player available was able to get to the Elite 8. As we all know, you shouldn't expect much out of a young team.

They're actually pretty experienced. A lot of juniors on that team.

[rocky_warrior]

It's almost beyond belief that a team such as K State, without a senior, and largely without their best player available was able to get to the Elite 8. As we all know, you shouldn't expect much out of a young team.

I'm glad you bring that up.  Some here probably would have preferred Weber fired after the 15-16 season.  The team was CLEARLY on a downtrend...

Shortly after the end of Weber's first season, starting point guard Angel Rodriquez and reserve forward Adrian Diaz announced their intentions to transfer.[7][8] Also, freshman guard Michael Orris, a member of Weber's original recruiting class, left the team to join Northern Illinois.[9] Kansas State's roster was further thinned when incoming freshman Neville Fincher was declared ineligible for the 2013–14 season, and incoming point guard Jevon Thomas was declared ineligible for the fall semester.[10][11]

Weber started his second season at Kansas State 0–1 after losing at home to the Big Sky Conference's Northern Colorado Bears, but finished the non-conference schedule with an 8-game winning streak and a 10–3 record. In its first conference game, Kansas State upset #6 Oklahoma State and earned a #25 ranking in the following week's AP Poll. The team finished the regular season with a 20–12 record, 10–8 in the Big 12 and returned to the NCAA Tournament for a school-record fifth straight season.

Weber's third season at Kansas State ended with a 15–17 record (8–10 in Big 12 play). The school did not advance to the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 2009. The losing record was just the second for Weber in his 17 seasons as a head coach. Following the season, Weber's squad saw the transfer and departure of six scholarship players, including Marcus Foster, Jevon Thomas, Nigel Johnson, Tre Harris and Malek Harris.[12]

As a result of the departure of those players, the 2015–16 season was difficult. The Wildcats finished 17–15, 5–13 in Big 12 play.

[GGGG]

I'm glad you bring that up.  Some here probably would have preferred Weber fired after the 15-16 season.  The team was CLEARLY on a downtrend...

Weber should have played more zone that year.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Maybe they'll be like the Cubs in 2016.

Highly unlikely.

More likely is some school throws a buttload of cash at Moser, and he bolts knowing that 3 of his 6 best players are graduating, which would cause 2 of the other 6 best to grad transfer since they're really seniors too. Then they go back to winning 10-15 games a year as per usual.

[MU82]

The Ners of ScoopLoyola would have declared Moser a total failure years ago.

"I just know there's no way this guy can even lead us into the NIT, let alone the NCAA Final Four. And that's a fact."

[ATWizJr]

One simple question-why does Loyola have these players and we don't?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

It's almost beyond belief that a team such as K State, without a senior, and largely without their best player available was able to get to the Elite 8. As we all know, you shouldn't expect much out of a young team.

[Floorslapper]

I'm glad you bring that up.  Some here probably would have preferred Weber fired after the 15-16 season.  The team was CLEARLY on a downtrend...

Possibly.  Yet considering Weber made the NCAA his first two years at K-State, he earned a little more grace.  We missed the NIT our first two years under Wojo.  Weber's now made the tourney 4 out of 6 years.  An Elite 8 appearance. Now has 4 NCAA tourney wins in his 6 years at K-State. 

Furthermore, Weber had a lot of success prior to coming to K-State.  Solid run at Illinois and Southern Illinois.

So, not exactly an apples to apples comp. 

[Mr. Nielsen]

This is why college basketball is superior to college football. Any D1 team has a shot, not just the chosen few.

Not that I agree or disagree, but most would disagree with your statement. Just look at the ratings. Football is far superior.

[Nukem2]

Not that I agree or disagree, but most would disagree with your statement. Just look at the ratings. Football is far superior.

Bunch of dumb jocks!   

[rocket surgeon]

One simple question-why does Loyola have these players and we don't?

recognizing talent and that talent to fit your(the coach's) system.  trust the system.  remember jimmy v?  many laughed when he had a "cut down the nets" drill-they believed in the man

[ATWizJr]

recognizing talent and that talent to fit your(the coach's) system.  trust the system.  remember jimmy v?  many laughed when he had a "cut down the nets" drill-they believed in the man

if I am reading you correctly, the reason we don't have the players Loyola has is that we failed to recognize them and identify them as quality players and even if we did they didn't fit our coach's system. Shouldn't we be getting the best possible players and tailor the system to fit the talent?  I mean, we are Marquette and we're sitting at home while players we could have probably had have advanced to the final four!  What's wrong with this picture?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Pretty cool scenes in Rogers Park right now.

[Galway Eagle]

So out of curiosity do you all think loyola could use this run to get a bid to the A10? I mean the MVC is never going to be back to the three bus league it was a few years back so their best bet would be to try to get to the A10 right? Assuming they want to have consistent success.

[Mr. Nielsen]

So out of curiosity do you all think loyola could use this run to get a bid to the A10? I mean the MVC is never going to be back to the three bus league it was a few years back so their best bet would be to try to get to the A10 right? Assuming they want to have consistent success.

Loyola wouldn't make that move. Travel cost.

[GGGG]

So out of curiosity do you all think loyola could use this run to get a bid to the A10? I mean the MVC is never going to be back to the three bus league it was a few years back so their best bet would be to try to get to the A10 right? Assuming they want to have consistent success.

The MVC and A10 are basically the same.

[Galway Eagle]

The MVC and A10 are basically the same.

This year yeah but you don't think the A10 has a higher ceiling?

[Nukem2]

The MVC and A10 are basically the same.

Nah.  A10much much deeper.

[Mr. Nielsen]

This year yeah but you don't think the A10 has a higher ceiling?

Sure. Not by much. Travel cost is a much fit in the MVC.

[Goose]

Congrats, Ramblers!!

[Mr. Nielsen]

Nah.  A10much much deeper.

If Dayton, VCU, UMass, St. Louis, St. Joe's, Richmond could be what they should or might be. Yep, A-10 is a solid league.

[GGGG]

This year yeah but you don't think the A10 has a higher ceiling?

Perhaps.  But not significantly.  As Mr. Nielson points out, the travel costs are an issue.  I know they are for SLU right now.

Nah.  A10much much deeper.

Not sure it's *much* deeper.  There's a lot of crap in both conferences.