Wojo Benefits From The Scandal

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Changed my mind...delete this thread.

[Tugg Speedman]

WhyTF would Wojo go to AZ when there are HC openings at Duke, UNC, KU, UK, and Moo U?

If any if these programs have openings this year (and throw in Michigan State for other reasons), they will also be sanctioned.  Sure go to Duke but they will probably have no post season for a few years, reduced scholarships and restrictions on recruiting for years.  Besides everyone transfers and decommits and you start with nothing.

The best place to be might be at a clean BE team with Howard and the Hausers waving your arms at blue chip recruits saying "look over here."

[Tugg Speedman]

Basketball as a whole loses because of this. Wojo may (emphasis) be clean, but this is a bruise on college basketball. We all knew or suspected it was there; now it's impossible to not address.

Just hope the NCAA actually does something tangible to address the real root cause

The root cause is players are not paid.  The NCAA is leading the charge to not pay them, even arguing a clause in the 13th amendment is a reason why.

NCAA cites 13th Amendment slavery loophole when arguing why they shouldn't pay student athletes
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rawstory.com/2018/02/ncaa-cites-13th-amendment-slavery-loophole-arguing-shouldnt-pay-student-athletes/amp/

The optics of this are beyond bad.  And it's means the NCAA is fully committing all their resources to keeping the corrupt and broken system in place.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

If any if these programs have openings this year (and throw in Michigan State for other reasons), they will also be sanctioned.  Sure go to Duke but they will probably have no post season for a few years, reduced scholarships and restrictions on recruiting for years.  Besides everyone transfers and decommits and you start with nothing.

The best place to be might be at a clean BE team with Howard and the Hausers waving your arms at blue chip recruits saying "look over here."

I remain incredibly skeptical that Duke and other programs are going to have anywhere near as harsh of penalties as you're describing.

[muwarrior69]

Basketball as a whole loses because of this. Wojo may (emphasis) be clean, but this is a bruise on college basketball. We all knew or suspected it was there; now it's impossible to not address.

Just hope the NCAA actually does something tangible to address the real root cause

Well if the FBI is involved it has to be the Russians.

[WarriorFan]

Jason Terry would be a fantastic coach.

JT was coaching the Bucks for the first half of the season. 

[connie]

I remain incredibly skeptical that Duke and other programs are going to have anywhere near as harsh of penalties as you're describing.

No kidding.  I never imagined that the Board of UNC would allow a defense to violations that essentially claimed their entire degree program was a farce, yet they did.  The only hesitation I would have is this is the feds, and they do tend to "get their man."

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I remain incredibly skeptical that Duke and other programs are going to have anywhere near as harsh of penalties as you're describing.

If this is as pervasive as described, I think there are no program penalties of substance.  I am sure there will be a individuals that will be punished....probably weighted toward ACs.

[Jockey]

Yes, and according to that ESPN article, Arizona still has to pay him 10 Million, if I read it correctly.  Other coaches will say "i had no idea this was happening" and it has already started and without some evidence, those coaches may have a chance.   

3000 hours of tapes. He will not be the only coach on them.

[NickelDimer]

U of A to pursue Woj? Hahahahaha

[Boone]

we should be so lucky

[i71_dawg]

I'm sure the blue bloods & perennial top 25 programs will be very interested in pursuing Wojo...after all, he made it a close game on the road for a half against a 10-17 DePaul juggernaut.

[Billy Hoyle]

Don't be so sure about that.  AZ has to self-sanction to reduce penalties, and given the Louisville/Bowen precedent, I would not be surprised if Ayton ALREADY played his last minute of college basketball the season (career).

When current NBA players are tweeting this, you're in deep doo-doo

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22559284/sean-miller-arizona-christian-dawkins-discussed-payment-ensure-deandre-ayton-signing-according-fbi-investigation

Milwaukee Bucks guard Jason Terry, who played at Arizona under coach Lute Olson from 1995 to '99,tweeted that it's time to for the Wildcats to "clean house."

@APlayersProgram BearDown it's time to clean house and bring home our own bloodlines to carry on Lutes Legacy. We have too much pride, too much tradition to allow outsiders to tear down what we built.

— Jason Terry (@jasonterry31) February 24, 2018

You mean the same Jason Terry who took $45K from an agent while playing at Arizona?

https://mobile.twitter.com/loni643/status/967266387998662656

[jutaw22mu]

Hermie may be on to something - Wojo's specialty is rebuilds.

Haha I think you forgot to use teal.

[Lennys Tap]

With all the stuff hittin' the fan, Tom Crean may actually land a decent gig. Who woulda thunk it?

[jutaw22mu]

I think TC is still viewed pretty favorably by many in college basketball. Given the recent events, it was smart of him to take the year off and not jump right into a random gig last year (as long as he isn't implicated for anything from when he was at IU).

[GGGG]

I think TC is still viewed pretty favorably by many in college basketball. Given the recent events, it was smart of him to take the year off and not jump right into a random gig last year (as long as he isn't implicated for anything from when he was at IU).

You know you are going to get a decent coach who stays relatively clean.  He not going to win you a championship but he will make you respectable. 

I don't think he gets the Arizona job.  But at another P6 school?  Sure.  If Tubby Smith can keep getting jobs, Crean sure can.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Haha I think you forgot to use teal.

I didn't think agreeing with 999 and rebuild would need teal.  But yes I was being sarcastic. 

[wadesworld]

Tom Crean was the head coach of one of the schools trying to be the highest bidder for Brian Bowen, they just happened to lose the bidding war.  IU was trying to "trade" an agent OG and Thomas Bryant for Bowen.  Crean wasn't named, an assistant for him was, but I'm not sure I'd be looking to add an IU coach if I'm Arizona or someone else looking to fill a coaching position that was vacated because of this investigation.

[4everwarriors]

Fook Tom Crean, Who cares? We've got our own problems when ya can't beet fookin' DePaul and a potential Tourney bid rides on it. Fookin' pathetic, aina?

[Tugg Speedman]

I take this to mean that Miller was effectively fired today.  They cannot announce it because they are negotiating with his agent over his severance.

I also expect that Ayton will not play tonight or ever again for U of A.  They will not play the Pac-12 tourney or the NCAA.  They are done.

Sean Miller won't coach Arizona's game Saturday vs. Oregon
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22567552/sean-miller-coach-arizona-wildcats-saturday-oregon-ducks

Sean Miller will not coach Arizona's game Saturday against Oregon in the wake of his reported involvement in a discussion to pay a potential recruit, sources told ESPN's Mark Schlabach and Jeff Goodman.

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Ayton was at shootaround Saturday, but his status for the Wildcats' game is uncertain.

[willie warrior]

The only benefit Wojo gets from the scandal is that he will be offered a position at Duke consummate with his skills: Ballboy/Floorslapper.

[wadesworld]

I take this to mean that Miller was effectively fired today.  They cannot announce it because they are negotiating with his agent over his severance.

I also expect that Ayton will not play tonight or ever again for U of A.  They will not play the Pac-12 tourney or the NCAA.  They are done.

Sean Miller won't coach Arizona's game Saturday vs. Oregon
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22567552/sean-miller-coach-arizona-wildcats-saturday-oregon-ducks

Sean Miller will not coach Arizona's game Saturday against Oregon in the wake of his reported involvement in a discussion to pay a potential recruit, sources told ESPN's Mark Schlabach and Jeff Goodman.

...
Ayton was at shootaround Saturday, but his status for the Wildcats' game is uncertain.

Your expectation for Ayton is wrong. He's playing tonight.

[WhiteTrash]

Your expectation for Ayton is wrong. He's playing tonight.

How does Arizona reconcile this decision with the evidence? Did Miller pay some other player? Maybe they figure Ayton is going to be ruled ineligible anyway and they'll have to forfeit all their games so why not just ride it out. Strange.   

[Tugg Speedman]

Your expectation for Ayton is wrong. He's playing tonight.

That does not mean that AZ is making the right call.  They are risking this game being vacated for using an ineligible player.  And the NCAA will add to their punishment for knowingly using an ineligible player.

Ayton is like Bowen at Louisville. He is toxic.