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ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« on: February 18, 2018, 02:40:21 PM »
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/view/resume/page/2

I haven't studied it, but Nate Silver's blog and ESPN analytics claim the strength of record is the best predictor of March Madness bids. Marquette shot up 6 spots based on the win at Creighton and passed Syracuse for the last spot - despite Syracuse winning. Definitely a huge win.
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2018, 03:18:43 PM »
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/view/resume/page/2

I haven't studied it, but Nate Silver's blog and ESPN analytics claim the strength of record is the best predictor of March Madness bids. Marquette shot up 6 spots based on the win at Creighton and passed Syracuse for the last spot - despite Syracuse winning. Definitely a huge win.

Last team in, huh. I still think 3-1 gets us to Dayton at least.

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2018, 03:32:12 PM »
Bracket Matrix has us tied as the 8th team out with WKU and LSU, only showing up in two brackets. We've got a long way to go methinks.
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2018, 03:39:01 PM »
Last team in, huh. I still think 3-1 gets us to Dayton at least.
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2018, 03:39:45 PM »
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2018, 03:58:58 PM »
Bracket Matrix has us tied as the 8th team out with WKU and LSU, only showing up in two brackets. We've got a long way to go methinks.

Yeah. The long way to go would be finishing 3-1.

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2018, 04:03:00 PM »
Pretty sure MU's Tourney run started wit da CU game, aina?
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2018, 04:04:10 PM »
Pretty sure MU's Tourney run started wit da CU game, aina?

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2018, 04:53:45 PM »
Win out and see what happens. Every game is bigger than the previous one the rest of the way. Great start last night and hope they can close the deal.

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2018, 04:58:13 PM »
Win out and see what happens. Every game is bigger than the previous one the rest of the way. Great start last night and hope they can close the deal.

I feel like a broken record (along with a few others here) but if we win out the only thing we'll be waiting to see is what seed we get on March 11th.

Very surprised we won last night. Hope the momentum carries into Wednesday

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2018, 05:37:25 PM »
Bracket Matrix has us tied as the 8th team out with WKU and LSU, only showing up in two brackets. We've got a long way to go methinks.

There's a flaw with Bracket Matrix though. Many brackets don't consider teams that aren't 4 games over .500 (a very outdated way of thinking). We hadn't been 4 games over .500 for the past 11 days.
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2018, 06:09:08 PM »
Nebraska with a really bad loss to Illinois this afternoon.  Likely ends their chances barring a deep run in Conference tournament.

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2018, 06:31:19 PM »
Wish we had done a better job of defending home court this year since we have 3 quality road wins.

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2018, 06:43:32 PM »
we NEED a STRONG showing at the BE tourny...i know...duh  but sometimes these basketball "gurus" have a short memory
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2018, 06:47:28 PM »
One disclaimer....3-1 plus 1-1 BET.....gets us in.

9-9 probably gets us a 7 seed playing day 1 against Depaul and (after winning) day 2 against  Xavier.  (Guessing a bit on those seeds).

so 9-9, 1-1, 19-13....some good Q1/Q2 competition and wins....no serious losses.

but lose to Depaul somewhere along the line....gives pause to committee guys.

But I say why not beat STJ/DP/GT/CR ... get a BET 4 seed or so (yes possible if tied with CR,SH,PV))...Beat whoever... upset X or NOVA then win the BET outright.  ;D
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2018, 07:03:35 PM »
we NEED a STRONG showing at the BE tourny...i know...duh  but sometimes these basketball "gurus" have a short memory

If we go 3-1 or 4-0, no, we don't.

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2018, 07:17:51 PM »
One disclaimer....3-1 plus 1-1 BET.....gets us in.

9-9 probably gets us a 7 seed playing day 1 against Depaul and (after winning) day 2 against  Xavier.  (Guessing a bit on those seeds).


so 9-9, 1-1, 19-13....some good Q1/Q2 competition and wins....no serious losses.

but lose to Depaul somewhere along the line....gives pause to committee guys.

But I say why not beat STJ/DP/GT/CR ... get a BET 4 seed or so (yes possible if tied with CR,SH,PV))...Beat whoever... upset X or NOVA then win the BET outright.  ;D

No it doesn't. Very small chance we get the 7 seed at 9-9. Check out Creighton, SHU, Providence's records and schedules

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2018, 08:55:23 PM »
If we win some more games and don't lose too much, we might get in.  Or maybe we won't, but I think probably we will.

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2018, 07:58:36 AM »
One disclaimer....3-1 plus 1-1 BET.....gets us in.

9-9 probably gets us a 7 seed playing day 1 against Depaul and (after winning) day 2 against  Xavier.  (Guessing a bit on those seeds).

so 9-9, 1-1, 19-13....some good Q1/Q2 competition and wins....no serious losses.

but lose to Depaul somewhere along the line....gives pause to committee guys.

I do think not losing to DePaul or Georgetown at the BET would help. That said, if we get to 9-9, there are very good odds we're the 6 seed or better. Seton Hall has to travel to Providence and St John's before finishing with Nova and Butler at home. They could win 3, but 2-2 or even 1-3 seems most likely and puts them behind us. We have all tie breakers on Seton Hall.

I don't think a loss to a 3-seed Butler, Providence, or Creighton will hurt us much. Especially as the committee doesn't pay as close of attention to conference tournaments as they do the 4 months prior.
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2018, 08:13:17 AM »
3-1 is in regardless of BET results. Still gladly accepting wagers on those so confident it’s not.
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2018, 08:19:06 AM »
FWIW,  Joe Lunardi's latest bracket update this morning still has MU nowhere to be seen.

Of course, I don't really understand how they determine NCAA tourney bids anymore, as Texas is listed as one of the last 2 teams in and MU and Texas's resumes look very similar to me (as far as RPI, SOS, record, conference record, etc).

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2018, 08:20:10 AM »
Don't forget that Wojo is very close to Coach K, a guy who single-handedly got NC State into the tournament a few years back by raising a fuss (and probably a good deal of lobbying behind closed doors as well).

IOW, the 'Coach K connection' gets us in, all else equal.

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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2018, 08:20:56 AM »
FWIW,  Joe Lunardi's latest bracket update this morning still has MU nowhere to be seen.

Of course, I don't really understand how they determine NCAA tourney bids anymore, as Texas is listed as one of the last 2 teams in and MU and Texas's resumes look very similar to me (as far as RPI, SOS, record, conference record, etc).

Same with Baylor. Resume is very similar.

Who does Joe list as his first four out and next four out? Surprised MU isn’t in there, and ESPNs stupid mobile site won’t show that.
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2018, 08:25:35 AM »
Same with Baylor. Resume is very similar.

Who does Joe list as his first four out and next four out? Surprised MU isn’t in there, and ESPNs stupid mobile site won’t show that.

He lists first 8 out as UCS, USC, Washington, Nebraska, Penn State, Utah and Boise. Don’t agree with that at all.
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Re: ESPN Resume now ranks Marquette as back in the tournament
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2018, 09:06:22 AM »
He lists first 8 out as UCS, USC, Washington, Nebraska, Penn State, Utah and Boise. Don’t agree with that at all.

Guessing this has a lot to do with the fact that we just need more wins. Win the next 2 and we'll start showing up. Will be interested to see when bracket matrix updates today.