Run The Table

[Herman Cain]

If we run the table, it is still possible for the team to get to my 3rd place finish. Will need some help from a few other teams losing.  Winning out should get us in the tournament and I still believe we will do well in the tournament and get to the second weekend. 

Lets hope Markus gets healthy soon.

[fjm]

HAHA yes, if we run the table, and other teams screw up enough, we could still end up 3rd. you're not wrong!

[Norm]

Let’s just focus on winning back-to-back games first - hasn’t happened in awhile.

[NickelDimer]

Let’s just focus on winning back-to-back games first - hasn’t happened in awhile.

This. I remember similar sentiments after the SH game. Let’s not get carried away. Win the next. That is all

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

3-1 will do.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

3-1 will do.

Should do. I'm getting more nervous as the Seton Hall wins look a lot less impressive than they did two weeks ago. Adding another Q1 win tonight was huge. This loss dropped Creighton 11 spots in RPI to 33. Hopefully they can climb a few spots so when we beat them at home it is another Q1 win.

Meanwhile, Providence and Butler are hovering just outside the top 30 (36 and 39). Georgetown and Wisconsin are just barely good enough to be Q2 road wins. VCU has wandered further away from the Q2 cutline. LSU has gotten closer to a Q1 victory but I don't think they will cross the 50 point threshold.

[#UnleashSean]

Let’s just focus on winning back-to-back games first - hasn’t happened in awhile.

Our unnatural carnal knowledge around talking won't defocus the team. I hate that focus on the next game crap.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Should do. I'm getting more nervous as the Seton Hall wins look a lot less impressive than they did two weeks ago. Adding another Q1 win tonight was huge. This loss dropped Creighton 11 spots in RPI to 33. Hopefully they can climb a few spots so when we beat them at home it is another Q1 win.

Meanwhile, Providence and Butler are hovering just outside the top 30 (36 and 39). Georgetown and Wisconsin are just barely good enough to be Q2 road wins. VCU has wandered further away from the Q2 cutline. LSU has gotten closer to a Q1 victory but I don't think they will cross the 50 point threshold.

With today’s results, that’s fair. Most days won’t be this generous to our bubble brethren.

I’d be shocked if MU didn’t get in at 9-9. I am a gambling man, but I’d put a sizable percent of my savings on any 9-9 or better ACC, BE or B12 team making the dance. But yah...10-8 is better.

Toughest game in MU 5 game stretch is now in the rear view mirror. An injured Markus would be a real blow....but it just might be what is needed for Rowsey to play his best basketball yet.   

[94Warrior]

Markus' injury appears to be serious. I'm not greedy, I will be ecstatic with 3-1, and Markus not being done for the year.  The run the table talk is premature, think of how you felt at halftime tonight!  If Creighton wasn't so inept vs. a zone, we might be talking about MU losing out! 

On the bright side, Seton Hall is in free fall right now.  They probably beat DePaul tomorrow, but I fully expect them to have a losing conference record at season's end.  If we get to 9-9, with the Hall behind us in the standings we are a lock.  The Big East wont get fewer than 6 teams in the NCAA's.  And, with our sweep of the Hall, they will be the ones sweating on Selection Sunday, not us.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Markus' injury appears to be serious. I'm not greedy, I will be ecstatic with 3-1, and Markus not being done for the year.  The run the table talk is premature, think of how you felt at halftime tonight!  If Creighton wasn't so inept vs. a zone, we might be talking about MU losing out! 

On the bright side, Seton Hall is in free fall right now.  They probably beat DePaul tomorrow, but I fully expect them to have a losing conference record at season's end.  If we get to 9-9, with the Hall behind us in the standings we are a lock.  The Big East wont get fewer than 6 teams in the NCAA's.  And, with our sweep of the Hall, they will be the ones sweating on Selection Sunday, not us.

We want SHU to win. PC to loss. Worst case 3 way tie between those 3 teams

[MUfan12]

No inside info, but I would be shocked if Markus plays again this season. If he couldn't put any weight on that right leg, it's probably serious.

[forgetful]

No inside info, but I would be shocked if Markus plays again this season. If he couldn't put any weight on that right leg, it's probably serious.

Not saying you are wrong, but sometimes the not putting any weight on it is a precautionary thing, not necessarily that they can't put weight on it.

[vogue65]

No inside info, but I would be shocked if Markus plays again this season. If he couldn't put any weight on that right leg, it's probably serious.

Forget the weight, hospital is serious.  Did he fly back?

[The Lens]

If Marcus doesn’t get hurt, we lose.

For his sake, I hope he recovers ASAP. 

For the teams sake, forcing Wojo to split up the Midgets might be the best thing that happens this season.

TEAM basketball is going to win it for us.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

If Marcus doesn’t get hurt, we lose.

For his sake, I hope he recovers ASAP. 

For the teams sake, forcing Wojo to split up the Midgets might be the best thing that happens this season.

TEAM basketball is going to win it for us.

And an inspired Rowsey is a huge key. But he’s got to stay out of foul trouble. Playing zone should help that.

[Herman Cain]

And an inspired Rowsey is a huge key. But he’s got to stay out of foul trouble. Playing zone should help that.

I thought one of the keys last night , was that down the stretch Rowsey did not pick up that 4th foul. Thus he was able to play the entire second half.

[DegenerateDish]

It's the Ewing Theory effect with Howard going down. Rowsey had to work the offense through Sacar and Hauser in the second half, I don't have the stats in front of me, but MU was way more efficient in the second half. It helped that Sacar was hitting seemingly everything, but maybe he gained more confidence knowing he was going to get the ball more and the offense was spreading it out to the wings more. Rowsey still had some hero ball attempts, but the flow of MU's offense in the second half was fantastic last night.

[Floorslapper]

If Marcus doesn’t get hurt, we lose.

For his sake, I hope he recovers ASAP. 

For the teams sake, forcing Wojo to split up the Midgets might be the best thing that happens this season.

TEAM basketball is going to win it for us.

Agree 100%

Wojo can learn from this:  One uber talented undersized guard, surrounded by length and athleticism (playing zone), can be a winning formula.  Playing two, uber talented (shot happy), undersized guards, man to man, is NOT a winning formula.


Godspeed to Markus and that he comes back 100% sooner than later.  But, think if he can get back yet this year, we need to go with the unconventional approach of putting our leading scorer on the bench and into 6th man role.  Rowsey is senior, better ball handler, and deserves the opportunity to lead this team from here on out.

[Loose Cannon]

It's the Ewing Theory effect with Howard going down. Rowsey had to work the offense through Sacar and Hauser in the second half, I don't have the stats in front of me, but MU was way more efficient in the second half. It helped that Sacar was hitting seemingly everything, but maybe he gained more confidence knowing he was going to get the ball more and the offense was spreading it out to the wings more. Rowsey still had some hero ball attempts, but the flow of MU's offense in the second half was fantastic last night.
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[Herman Cain]

Agree 100%

Wojo can learn from this:  One uber talented undersized guard, surrounded by length and athleticism (playing zone), can be a winning formula.  Playing two, uber talented (shot happy), undersized guards, man to man, is NOT a winning formula.


Godspeed to Markus and that he comes back 100% sooner than later.  But, think if he can get back yet this year, we need to go with the unconventional approach of putting our leading scorer on the bench and into 6th man role.  Rowsey is senior, better ball handler, and deserves the opportunity to lead this team from here on out.

I would add to this solid analysis above, that Rowsey, while short, is actually very athletic. So when we have in on the floor, playing in control, with the athletes. we can employ a fast break type offense in addition to our strength in threes. It gives the team one more dimension for the defense to consider.

[bilsu]

It's the Ewing Theory effect with Howard going down. Rowsey had to work the offense through Sacar and Hauser in the second half, I don't have the stats in front of me, but MU was way more efficient in the second half. It helped that Sacar was hitting seemingly everything, but maybe he gained more confidence knowing he was going to get the ball more and the offense was spreading it out to the wings more. Rowsey still had some hero ball attempts, but the flow of MU's offense in the second half was fantastic last night.

I think Sacar already had 14 points when Howard got hurt.

[Floorslapper]

It's the Ewing Theory effect with Howard going down. Rowsey had to work the offense through Sacar and Hauser in the second half, I don't have the stats in front of me, but MU was way more efficient in the second half. It helped that Sacar was hitting seemingly everything, but maybe he gained more confidence knowing he was going to get the ball more and the offense was spreading it out to the wings more. Rowsey still had some hero ball attempts, but the flow of MU's offense in the second half was fantastic last night.

Rowsey plays far less hero ball than Markus.  Markus is taking 33.3% of our teams shots in conference play.  Rowsey 29.8.  Rowsey with a 26.6% assist rate compared to Markus's 18.5%.

End of the day you simply can't have two guys playing on the floor at the same time who are so shot happy.  Think Sacar's breakout was helped largely in part due to there being many more shot opportunities available to him due to Markus not being on the floor.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Rowsey plays far less hero ball than Markus.  Markus is taking 33.3% of our teams shots in conference play.  Rowsey 29.8.  Rowsey with a 26.6% assist rate compared to Markus's 18.5%.

End of the day you simply can't have two guys playing on the floor at the same time who are so shot happy.  Think Sacar's breakout was helped largely in part due to there being many more shot opportunities available to him due to Markus not being on the floor.

More than half of Savages points were before Markus was hurt. Don’t necessarily disagree with the take tho.

[Nukem2]

Rowsey plays far less hero ball than Markus.  Markus is taking 33.3% of our teams shots in conference play.  Rowsey 29.8.  Rowsey with a 26.6% assist rate compared to Markus's 18.5%.

End of the day you simply can't have two guys playing on the floor at the same time who are so shot happy.  Think Sacar's breakout was helped largely in part due to there being many more shot opportunities available to him due to Markus not being on the floor.

More so due to Creighton’s lack of rim protection.  MU/Sacar took advantage.

[Floorslapper]

More than half of Savages points were before Markus was hurt. Don’t necessarily disagree with the take tho.

True.  So, perhaps not totally cause and effect as to why Sacar had a big game being correlated to Markus going out. 

Don't want any of this to come off negative against Markus - he's a great talent, and kid.  An absolute asset.  It's just that it is fools gold to essentially have two clones of each other playing together simultaneously.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Agree 100%

Wojo can learn from this:  One uber talented undersized guard, surrounded by length and athleticism (playing zone), can be a winning formula.  Playing two, uber talented (shot happy), undersized guards, man to man, is NOT a winning formula.


Godspeed to Markus and that he comes back 100% sooner than later.  But, think if he can get back yet this year, we need to go with the unconventional approach of putting our leading scorer on the bench and into 6th man role.  Rowsey is senior, better ball handler, and deserves the opportunity to lead this team from here on out.

I'm starting to get convinced that this is the correct approach. Rowsey had a terrific second half and way better handle than Markus. That's what he needs to be working on this summer.

[GooooMarquette]

We got this.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

True.  So, perhaps not totally cause and effect as to why Sacar had a big game being correlated to Markus going out. 

Don't want any of this to come off negative against Markus - he's a great talent, and kid.  An absolute asset.  It's just that it is fools gold to essentially have two clones of each other playing together simultaneously.

Yep

[wisblue]

Godspeed to Markus and that he comes back 100% sooner than later.  But, think if he can get back yet this year, we need to go with the unconventional approach of putting our leading scorer on the bench and into 6th man role.  Rowsey is senior, better ball handler, and deserves the opportunity to lead this team from here on out.

My variation on this would be to keep the starting lineup the same, but sub in Elliot relatively quickly and rotate from there so that Howard and Rowsey would not be in together that much. That produces the same result without the drama and appearance of looking like you're demoting someone. With the thin roster it's pretty hard to completely eliminate having Howard and Rowsey in together for a least a few minutes.

[warriorchick]

More than half of Savages points were before Markus was hurt. Don’t necessarily disagree with the take tho.

Either Sacar has a nickname I hadn't heard before, or your autocorrect feature is racist.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Either Sacar has a nickname I hadn't heard before, or your autocorrect feature is racist.

Haha yah...autocorrect.