American heroes

[Jockey]

I actually think reporting is more objective than ever.

Columnists/talking heads, editorial boards and owners of newspapers/broadcast stations are not reporters.

.........

Excellent points.

The problem is that most people - including many, many here - have no concept of the difference between a newspaper's editorial/opinion page and its news reporting.

[naginiF]

Is this the thread where i nominate Emma Gonzalez, and other survivors, as American Heroes for passionately and eloquently standing up?

[MU82]

Is this the thread where i nominate Emma Gonzalez, and other survivors, as American Heroes for passionately and eloquently standing up?

Sure!

[Pakuni]

Is this the thread where i nominate Emma Gonzalez, and other survivors, as American Heroes for passionately and eloquently standing up?

Seconded.

[Mutaman]

Query:  How come high school kids easily grasp the concept of " Follow Up Questions" but most journalists don't?

[Golden Avalanche]

Query:  How come high school kids easily grasp the concept of " Follow Up Questions" but most journalists don't?

TV talking heads can't be tough or else politicians won't appear on your show. If you can't get politicians to appear on your show, you will be demoted or fired. If you're demoted or fired, your career enters a downward spiral. Downward spirals are not conducive to keeping a steady paycheck. 

[Mutaman]

TV talking heads can't be tough or else politicians won't appear on your show. If you can't get politicians to appear on your show, you will be demoted or fired. If you're demoted or fired, your career enters a downward spiral. Downward spirals are not conducive to keeping a steady paycheck.

True, but the same problem applies to other contexts- Debates, white house reporters questioning the press secretary, etc. The infamous Matt Lauer didn't have any problem asking HRC four straight questions about her emails.  Which is probably why Matt never got around to asking anyone how they felt about gun control or sexual harassment.

[muwarrior69]

TV talking heads can't be tough or else politicians won't appear on your show. If you can't get politicians to appear on your show, you will be demoted or fired. If you're demoted or fired, your career enters a downward spiral. Downward spirals are not conducive to keeping a steady paycheck.

That's why I got DirecTV.

[muwarrior69]

Is this the thread where i nominate Emma Gonzalez, and other survivors, as American Heroes for passionately and eloquently standing up?

...and Colton Haab as well.

[GGGG]

...and Colton Haab as well.

Lying makes you a hero?

[muwarrior69]

Lying makes you a hero?

Why do you have to attack people and make it personal, he saved his classmates by shielding them with kevlar.

[GGGG]

Why do you have to attack people and make it personal, he saved his classmates by shielding them with kevlar.

So if he lies afterwards that's OK?

[muwarrior69]

So if he lies afterwards that's OK?

What are you talking about?

[jesmu84]

What are you talking about?

Google him.

Stated the town hall with Rubio was all scripted by CNN and he declined to participate because of it.

CNN has denied this.

[muwarrior69]

Google him.

Stated the town hall with Rubio was all scripted by CNN and he declined to participate because of it.

CNN has denied this.

He claimed one thing, CNN disputes what he claimed. I saw no article claiming he said the CNN townhall was all scripted. So why call him a liar?

[GGGG]

He claimed one thing, CNN disputes what he claimed. I saw no article claiming he said the CNN townhall was all scripted. So why call him a liar?

Because he's lying. Duh.

[jesmu84]

He claimed one thing, CNN disputes what he claimed. I saw no article claiming he said the CNN townhall was all scripted. So why call him a liar?

https://www.snopes.com/did-cnn-give-shooting-survivor-questions/

I did not call him anything

[rocket surgeon]

Google him.

Stated the town hall with Rubio was all scripted by CNN and he declined to participate because of it.

CNN has denied this.

so you expected cnn to own up to their shenanigans? 

[naginiF]

so you expected cnn to own up to their shenanigans?

Not at all and we'll probably never know if it stays in a "he said, they said" situation. 

However, when i look at a situation like this i ask myself: is it more likely that this was a scripted event and only one participant is saying it was scripted while the others remain silent given their propensity for being extremely vocal in the past 10ish days.....or is it more likely that the one participant may have misinterpreted or overreacted to some communication?

Either scenario is possible but one is far more probable.

[MU82]

I am going to give the kid the benefit of the doubt and say he misunderstood what happened.

This is not what this thread is about, though.

CNN occasionally does some good work, and when they make mistakes, they often own up to them, but they are not in the same league as the NYT, WSJ, WaPo and our other great newspapers when it comes to great journalism.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

so you expected cnn to own up to their shenanigans?

He was probably a crisis actor, right?

[Hards Alumni]

so you expected cnn to own up to their shenanigans?

You see, the problem here is your mind is made up.  The guy you claim is from, 'the other side' is being open minded and waiting for the facts to come out before making a black and white decision.

This is what will get you berated here.  Not your view, but that you won't wait for the whole story to come out... because you want one side to be true.

[MU82]

Here's some outstanding innovation by the Wall Street Journal to promote readership and revenues:

http://www.niemanlab.org/2018/02/after-years-of-testing-the-wall-street-journal-has-built-a-paywall-that-bends-to-the-individual-reader/

I've been mostly impressed with the WSJ's political reporting the last couple of years. It's a valuable publication, and we need it in our society.

[rocket surgeon]

You see, the problem here is your mind is made up.  The guy you claim is from, 'the other side' is being open minded and waiting for the facts to come out before making a black and white decision.

This is what will get you berated here.  Not your view, but that you won't wait for the whole story to come out... because you want one side to be true.

wait...where did i say my mind is made up?  my point is, if sultan is going to call the dude a liar, which sounds like someone's mind is made up when i'll i'm saying is, is cnn going to own up to any "journalistic standards"?  no asked sully for proof or blasted him-open minded? 

ya see hards, you are assuming my mind is made up-wrong!  i'm still listening to all the scenarios.  if the kid did in fact lie-shame on him.  if cnn is steering the topic toward their agenda?  well, surprise surprise eyn'er?

so i'm going to get berated for...what?  sounds like you've already made up your mind for you and your boys to kick my arse and you are no harbinger of open mindedness.  can't you at least try to fake it first before "berating" fellow scooper.  i thought you guys were "tolerant" to other thoughts-"co-exist" right?

[GGGG]

wait...where did i say my mind is made up?  my point is, if sultan is going to call the dude a liar, which sounds like someone's mind is made up when i'll i'm saying is, is cnn going to own up to any "journalistic standards"?  no asked sully for proof or blasted him-open minded? 

ya see hards, you are assuming my mind is made up-wrong!  i'm still listening to all the scenarios.  if the kid did in fact lie-shame on him.  if cnn is steering the topic toward their agenda?  well, surprise surprise eyn'er?

so i'm going to get berated for...what?  sounds like you've already made up your mind for you and your boys to kick my arse and you are no harbinger of open mindedness.  can't you at least try to fake it first before "berating" fellow scooper.  i thought you guys were "tolerant" to other thoughts-"co-exist" right?

Listen snowflake, stop playing the victim all the time. 

Haab is lying.  Want me to provide proof?  I don't have any.  Is that not good enough for you or anyone else?  I don't care.  You won't see me whining.

But he is lying.