3 UCLA Players arrested in China

[GoldenDieners32]

I thought this was pretty dumb when i first heard it like you are in a whole different country all these kids are 6'6 and black so everyone will be looking at them when they walk into the place

[warriorchick]

And as you said, gender may be involved as well. I really doubt we would see the hardline comments if this was a cute, white young gymnast who had committed this act.

Because U.S. gymnasts have had it so easy?  There are quite a number of them who wish a shoplifting accusation was the worst thing that has happened to them in their sports career.

[Jockey]

Because U.S. gymnasts have had it so easy?  There are quite a number of them who wish a shoplifting accusation was the worst thing that has happened to them in their sports career.

Interesting how they are believed - but women in Alabama who were assaulted at the same age are not.

[warriorchick]

Interesting how they are believed - but women in Alabama who were assaulted at the same age are not.

WTF, Dude?

[burger]

Interesting how they are believed - but women in Alabama who were assaulted at the same age are not.

30 to 40 years later .....1 month before an election both sides of the "swamp" do not want this guy in the Senate because he is not one of their "crooked lemmings".....

Don't be naive.....

[GGGG]

30 to 40 years later .....1 month before an election both sides of the "swamp" do not want this guy in the Senate because he is not one of their "crooked lemmings".....

Don't be naive.....

Lifelong Republicans.  These women didn't lie.  They weren't set up.  Moore is a turd and these allegations have been around forever.

[GGGG]

BTW. Four women who have never met one another. A bunch of corroborating witnesses.

[brewcity77]

BTW. Four women who have never met one another. A bunch of corroborating witnesses.

Anyone who has even remedial knowledge of how to read a newspaper article can see that the Post story is legit. There's no way you find that many unconnected parties (4 victims and 30+ witnesses) to a story. That is one of the most well-sourced articles you will ever see. The Post took a lot of care in how they wrote that. Absolutely, 100%, no doubt it happened. Anyone saying otherwise is illiterate or just taking Moore's word while intentionally ignoring the article.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Anyone who has even remedial knowledge of how to read a newspaper article can see that the Post story is legit. There's no way you find that many unconnected parties (4 victims and 30+ witnesses) to a story. That is one of the most well-sourced articles you will ever see. The Post took a lot of care in how they wrote that. Absolutely, 100%, no doubt it happened. Anyone saying otherwise is illiterate or just taking Moore's word while intentionally ignoring the article.

Not that i disagree, however, this is americ and everyone should be assumed innocent until they have their day in court.  With that being said Moore should step aside for the sake of the election, and if or when he clears his name he can run again and would assuredly win. 

[rocket surgeon]

Lifelong Republicans.  These women didn't lie.  They weren't set up.  Moore is a turd and these allegations have been around forever.

let's see here, anita j.(put a little ice on that honey) paula j.(settled a lawsuit) kathleen w.(nbc chitcans the interview) these women didn't lie.  they weren't set up.  bubba is a turd.  these allegations have been around forever...then hrc, the champion of womans rights, came to the rescue

[naginiF]

let's see here, anita j.(put a little ice on that honey) paula j.(settled a lawsuit) kathleen w.(nbc chitcans the interview) these women didn't lie.  they weren't set up.  bubba is a turd.  these allegations have been around forever...then hrc, the champion of womans rights, came to the rescue

This needs to be locked.

It also is NOT a political thing....is IS a male thing.  The issue is how MEN treat others and use sex/physicality to intimidate and abuse people.  Making it political is both belittling the victims and ignoring the problem.  All the abusers are vile and need to be held accountable.  No: "but this other thing happened....", "here's one example where a woman did it so both sides are to blame....", "we need more information...."

[rocket surgeon]

tell that to your buddy sully before he throws the red meat out there

[B. McBannerson]

Interesting how they are believed - but women in Alabama who were assaulted at the same age are not.

Well in one thread you've played the race card, then the gender card, and the political card.  Good job.

If Hope Solo had done what they players had done in China, I would beg for her to get the full book thrown at her no differently than these three guys.  Race and gender have nothing to do with it, but some people just can't wait to go there.  Yet others here are accused of playing victim card?  LOL

[B. McBannerson]

Lifelong Republicans.  These women didn't lie.  They weren't set up.  Moore is a turd and these allegations have been around forever.

False.  One worked on Hillary and Biden campaigns and already caught deleting Facebook posts (screen captures are out there) as she most certainly wasn't a Republican.

Now, I don't know if this guy did it or not.  I do find the double standards amazing, absolutely amazing.  Women that accused former POTUS of raping them are not to be believed.  These women are.   The double standards on both sides are a disgrace.

[Earl Tatum]

Throw the punks  and LaVar in the Chineese jail. Kids knew exactly what
they were doing.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

let's see here, anita j.(put a little ice on that honey) paula j.(settled a lawsuit) kathleen w.(nbc chitcans the interview) these women didn't lie.  they weren't set up.  bubba is a turd.  these allegations have been around forever...then hrc, the champion of womans rights, came to the rescue

At least 4never is purposefully writing in an incomprehensible manner.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

False.  One worked on Hillary and Biden campaigns and already caught deleting Facebook posts (screen captures are out there) as she most certainly wasn't a Republican.

Now, I don't know if this guy did it or not.  I do find the double standards amazing, absolutely amazing.  Women that accused former POTUS of raping them are not to be believed.  These women are.   The double standards on both sides are a disgrace.

Oh good, what Scoop needed was Chicos to return from his 27th banning to try to give equivalence to a PEDOPHILE.  Fantastic.

[brewcity77]

let's see here, anita j.(put a little ice on that honey) paula j.(settled a lawsuit) kathleen w.(nbc chitcans the interview) these women didn't lie.  they weren't set up.  bubba is a turd.  these allegations have been around forever...then hrc, the champion of womans rights, came to the rescue

I don't know why Bill is relevant, but yes, he was at best a womanizer guilty of sexual harassment of Lewinsky (even if she came on to him, that's an abuse of power) and at worst a rapist (and I don't doubt it).

The difference is that he would never make it on the Democratic ticket today while the other side gleefully denies pedophiles and elects admitted serial sexual abusers.

[naginiF]

Well in one thread you've played the race card, then the gender card, and the political card.  Good job.

If Hope Solo had done what they players had done in China, I would beg for her to get the full book thrown at her no differently than these three guys.  Race and gender have nothing to do with it, but some people just can't wait to go there.  Yet others here are accused of playing victim card?  LOL

It also is NOT a political thing....is IS a male thing.  The issue is how MEN treat others and use sex/physicality to intimidate and abuse people.  Making it political is both belittling the victims and ignoring the problem.  All the abusers are vile and need to be held accountable.  No: "but this other thing happened....", "here's one example where a woman did it so both sides are to blame....", "we need more information...."

[naginiF]

False.  One worked on Hillary and Biden campaigns and already caught deleting Facebook posts (screen captures are out there) as she most certainly wasn't a Republican.

Now, I don't know if this guy did it or not.  I do find the double standards amazing, absolutely amazing.  Women that accused former POTUS of raping them are not to be believed.  These women are.   The double standards on both sides are a disgrace.

It also is NOT a political thing....is IS a male thing.  The issue is how MEN treat others and use sex/physicality to intimidate and abuse people.  Making it political is both belittling the victims and ignoring the problem.  All the abusers are vile and need to be held accountable.  No: "but this other thing happened....", "here's one example where a woman did it so both sides are to blame....", "we need more information...."

[naginiF]

tell that to your buddy sully before he throws the red meat out there

It also is NOT a political thing....is IS a male thing.  The issue is how MEN treat others and use sex/physicality to intimidate and abuse people.  Making it political is both belittling the victims and ignoring the problem.  All the abusers are vile and need to be held accountable.  No: "but this other thing happened....", "here's one example where a woman did it so both sides are to blame....", "we need more information...."

[rocket surgeon]

It also is NOT a political thing....is IS a male thing.  The issue is how MEN treat others and use sex/physicality to intimidate and abuse people.  Making it political is both belittling the victims and ignoring the problem.  All the abusers are vile and need to be held accountable.  No: "but this other thing happened....", "here's one example where a woman did it so both sides are to blame....", "we need more information...."

i can agree with that wholeheartedly.  right sully?

[forgetful]

It also is NOT a political thing....is IS a male thing.  The issue is how MEN treat others and use sex/physicality to intimidate and abuse people.  Making it political is both belittling the victims and ignoring the problem.  All the abusers are vile and need to be held accountable.  No: "but this other thing happened....", "here's one example where a woman did it so both sides are to blame....", "we need more information...."

38% of sexual assault victims are male.  The vast majority of people sexually assaulting men are women. 

These are current statistics, every year the numbers of males who were assaulted increases as the stigma associated with it declines.  It is a people problem.  A lot of humans are terrible creatures.

Saying this is a male thing, perpetuates stigmas stopping men who have been assaulted from seeking help.

[rocky_warrior]

WTF is wrong with you people?