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barfolomew

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 24, 2017, 02:49:28 PM
Michigan loses DJ Wilson but keeps Moritz Wagner. We could see them in Maui.

Dang!
I was hoping it would be the other way around, so we could say they'll be sans Moritz.
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 24, 2017, 02:49:28 PM
Michigan loses DJ Wilson but keeps Moritz Wagner. We could see them in Maui.
That's good--because we didn't (probably still wouldn't) have an answer for Wilson.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: bilsu on May 24, 2017, 11:11:39 AM
First I am a Marquette fan.
Second I am a Big East fan.
MU belonging to one of the best conferences is important to me as an MU fan.
In my book the bragging rights goes to the conference with the most teams advancing the farthest in the NCAA tournament.
Last year was not a good year for the Big East as far as NCAA tournament results.
The Big East sent last year more than one school to the 2nd weekend of the NCAA Tournament for the first time since the new format of the league..Xavier  (Elite 8)  and Butler  (Sweet 16) I wouldn't think that is bad. Sure, totally stink Villanova lost in round 2.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 24, 2017, 02:49:28 PM
Michigan loses DJ Wilson but keeps Moritz Wagner. We could see them in Maui.

I know Wagner was really good for Michigan last year, but I must have seen all of his worst games because I never saw a game where he played well.

Marcus92

The Big East earned 13 NCAA tournament units in 2017: 4 from Xavier, 3 from Butler, 2 from Villanova, and 1 each from Creighton, Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall. That's one more unit than the conference earned in 2016.

The 13 units should be worth roughly $3.4 million per year for the next 6 years, to be split between the conference's 10 teams (the conference doesn't disclose its distribution formula).

Here's how some other conferences compare:

18 units ACC (15 schools)
16 units SEC (14 schools)
15 units Big 12 (10 schools)
15 units Big Ten (14 schools)
14 units Pac-12 (12 schools)
7 units WCC (10 schools)
4 units A10 (14 schools)
3 units American (11 schools)
3 units MVC (10 schools)

In other words, the Big East earned more tournament units per school than any other conference, except for the Big 12. We're more than holding our own.

http://herosports.com/ncaa-tournament/how-much-money-ncaa-tournament-earned-conference-2017-basketball-fund-a7a7
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: barfolomew on May 24, 2017, 04:06:19 PM
Dang!
I was hoping it would be the other way around, so we could say they'll be sans Moritz.

;D

bilsu

Quote from: Marcus92 on May 24, 2017, 07:55:45 PM
The Big East earned 13 NCAA tournament units in 2017: 4 from Xavier, 3 from Butler, 2 from Villanova, and 1 each from Creighton, Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall. That's one more unit than the conference earned in 2016.

The 13 units should be worth roughly $3.4 million per year for the next 6 years, to be split between the conference's 10 teams (the conference doesn't disclose its distribution formula).

Here's how some other conferences compare:

18 units ACC (15 schools)
16 units SEC (14 schools)
15 units Big 12 (10 schools)
15 units Big Ten (14 schools)
14 units Pac-12 (12 schools)
7 units WCC (10 schools)
4 units A10 (14 schools)
3 units American (11 schools)
3 units MVC (10 schools)

In other words, the Big East earned more tournament units per school than any other conference, except for the Big 12. We're more than holding our own.

http://herosports.com/ncaa-tournament/how-much-money-ncaa-tournament-earned-conference-2017-basketball-fund-a7a7
You are talking money and I am talking general basketball fan's perception. According to this the conference made more money last year than the year before. However, the year before Villanova won the title and that help the perception of the Big East significantly more than the Big East getting 7 bids, which included 4 first round losses.

bradley center bat

ACC sent 9 teams and only one made it to the 2nd weekend. Perception doesn't mean facts.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: bradley center bat on May 25, 2017, 07:55:06 AM
ACC sent 9 teams and only one made it to the 2nd weekend. Perception doesn't mean facts.

Reality long ago lost the battle against perception. The manifestation of that lost battle is apparent every single day in the world of 2017.

Marcus92

Would you rather have $1 million, or have other people think you have $1 million?
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Jay Bee

Quote from: Marcus92 on May 25, 2017, 10:15:49 AM
Would you rather have $1 million, or have other people think you have $1 million?

If you have it, do ppl know it not know?

I like having the milly, but cats ain't know. #LowkeyBaller
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brewcity77

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on May 25, 2017, 10:15:42 AM
Reality long ago lost the battle against perception. The manifestation of that lost battle is apparent every single day in the world of 2017.

Truer words have never been spoken.

naginiF

Quote from: Marcus92 on May 25, 2017, 10:15:49 AM
Would you rather have $1 million, or have other people think you have $1 million?
Depends on what side of the fence you're currently on - if you have more than $1M you would prefer people think you have $1M.  If you have less you want the $.

It's the old line when someone brings a young date to a dinner party and he/she asks the icebreaker "what would you do if you had $1M?"........A: "Most of us would wonder were the rest of their f'n money went"

bilsu

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Quote from: bradley center bat on May 25, 2017, 07:55:06 AM
ACC sent 9 teams and only one made it to the 2nd weekend. Perception doesn't mean facts.
But they won the title.
Also the Big East is the power 6 conference that is looked down upon, because they do not have football. That makes the NCAA tournament more important to them than the other conferences.

Herman Cain

Great News that Trevon Bluiett is returning to Xavier.,as this decision helps retain the strength of one of our key conference teams, which benefits MU. Xavier has played a challenging non conference schedule the past few years and Trevon returning should keep them on the positive side of the ledger in that regard.

The most important thing for the Big East is for all of our teams to have a very strong non conference season. Our conference season is a gauntlet and it is very challenging to get a winning record in conference. 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

bilsu

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on May 25, 2017, 12:08:15 PM
Great News that Trevon Bluiett is returning to Xavier.,as this decision helps retain the strength of one of our key conference teams, which benefits MU. Xavier has played a challenging non conference schedule the past few years and Trevon returning should keep them on the positive side of the ledger in that regard.

The most important thing for the Big East is for all of our teams to have a very strong non conference season. Our conference season is a gauntlet and it is very challenging to get a winning record in conference.
+1

Marcus92

Among media and basketball fans, I think the perception and reality is that the Big East is one of the best basketball conferences in the country.

Obviously, Villanova winning it all a year ago demanded attention. So did being ranked one of the top 3 toughest conferences for the third straight year. So did sending 7 of 10 teams to the tournament this season.

Events and headlines like those won't happen every single year. My broader point is that the Big East conference is highly successful by virtually any measure — on the court, financially, and in the eyes of the sports world. We're part of the Gavitt Games (Big Ten-Big East, split 8-8 over the past two years). Nova will once again open the season as a consensus Top 10 team. References to the "old Big East" or "new Big East" have dropped off. It's starting to establish its own unique identity.

I keep up with national college basketball writers and blogs for other teams and conferences. You may feel like the Big East is inferior to the ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, et al — but I don't see it.
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jesmu84

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on May 25, 2017, 12:08:15 PM
Great News that Trevon Bluiett is returning to Xavier.,as this decision helps retain the strength of one of our key conference teams, which benefits MU. Xavier has played a challenging non conference schedule the past few years and Trevon returning should keep them on the positive side of the ledger in that regard.

The most important thing for the Big East is for all of our teams to have a very strong non conference season. Our conference season is a gauntlet and it is very challenging to get a winning record in conference.

Man... guru is gonna be pissed at you

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on May 25, 2017, 10:15:42 AM
Reality long ago lost the battle against perception. The manifestation of that lost battle is apparent every single day in the world of 2017.
I think that comes from the left.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

brewcity77

Quote from: mupanther on May 25, 2017, 01:35:30 PM
I think that comes from the left.

Stick to the politics board with this please.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 25, 2017, 01:39:36 PM
Stick to the politics board with this please.
You want the strength of leagues by fan viewpoints true or false on the politics board.  ;)
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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Quote from: mupanther on May 25, 2017, 01:54:42 PM
You want the strength of leagues by fan viewpoints true or false on the politics board.  ;)
Huh?

Mr. Nielsen

If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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Quote from: mupanther on May 25, 2017, 01:35:30 PM
I think that comes from the left.
Either a brilliantly satirical post, or a sadly ironic one...I just don't know which.
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brewcity77

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on May 25, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
Huh?

+1

GA made a comment about perception and reality, mupanther politicized it. That's about all I see going on.

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