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tower912

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Re: 2 pt Scorers
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2017, 05:14:33 PM »
All I was trying to say was that it's pretty rare that players who redshirt for non-medical/transfer reasons turn out to be above-average/great high D1 college players.

Basically, outside of needing to fill out physically (Justin Patton's situation), you're probably taking a redshirt to develop skills to even get playing time.

Further, I don't think pointing out high school accolades/pedigrees has a high correlation with college success in the way you implied.

That said, I hope Sacar is the needle-in-the-haystack.
Bo Ryan disagrees.
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Re: 2 pt Scorers
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2017, 05:23:32 PM »
All I was trying to say was that it's pretty rare that players who redshirt for non-medical/transfer reasons turn out to be above-average/great high D1 college players.

Basically, outside of needing to fill out physically (Justin Patton's situation), you're probably taking a redshirt to develop skills to even get playing time.

Further, I don't think pointing out high school accolades/pedigrees has a high correlation with college success in the way you implied.

That said, I hope Sacar is the needle-in-the-haystack.

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Re: 2 pt Scorers
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2017, 05:27:32 PM »
Froling and either Rowsey or Hauser.

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Re: 2 pt Scorers
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2017, 05:35:52 PM »
Froling and either Rowsey or Hauser.

Sam is interesting choice, I thought I seen a few Glimpses of some nice smooth moves to the basket last year.
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Re: 2 pt Scorers
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2017, 05:41:01 PM »
Bo Ryan disagrees.

Ha. Touche.

As a whole, along the high D1 spectrum of players, I think I'm more correct

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Re: 2 pt Scorers
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2017, 06:39:18 PM »
Ha. Touche.

As a whole, along the high D1 spectrum of players, I think I'm more correct

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Re: 2 pt Scorers
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2017, 11:41:59 PM »
Ha. Touche.

As a whole, along the high D1 spectrum of players, I think I'm more correct

I'm becoming less convinced of this. When it's giving a redshirt to simply buy a year of eligibility, I agree. Honestly, I don't even think Bo Ryan used the redshirt well. Look at Kaminsky. That kid had tons of talent and the redshirt year didn't seem to help at all. He still wasn't ready until his junior year. Wisconsin generally wastes redshirts. Guys are no more prepared as redshirt freshman then they would be as sophomores.

But there are programs that do use it well. Creighton, not just with Patton, but Mo Watson. For us, Luke was far more ready to play after a year out, and I think Rowsey made good use as well, stepping in pretty quick. Gonzaga has done wonders with Kelly Olynyk, Nigel Williams-Goss, and others.

I'm hoping Anim will show a big jump. I think if the program has a plan to actually maximize the redshirt by optimizing a physical program and advancing basketball skills without the stress of game performance, it can be a huge benefit.

But for those guys just buying a year? Then it's often wasted on mediocre players.

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Re: 2 pt Scorers
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2017, 07:59:30 AM »
I'm becoming less convinced of this. When it's giving a redshirt to simply buy a year of eligibility, I agree. Honestly, I don't even think Bo Ryan used the redshirt well. Look at Kaminsky. That kid had tons of talent and the redshirt year didn't seem to help at all. He still wasn't ready until his junior year. Wisconsin generally wastes redshirts. Guys are no more prepared as redshirt freshman then they would be as sophomores.

Big Frank no redshirt, ai-na?

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Re: 2 pt Scorers
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2017, 08:16:50 AM »
Harry & Sacar.
I would go with these two.
Sacar in limited playing time as a freshmen was 6 out of 12 on two point shots. It will of been a mistake to redshirt him, if he does not play much this year.

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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2017, 01:53:41 PM »

After reading Big Daddy's post today (Recruiting 4/1/17 Post #7310) I'm changing to Harry and Greg pushing Sacar to third. To me it seems to make the 2 pt scoring contingent Brighter.
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