2017-2018 OOC Schedule

[jsglow]

Reading the transfer rules, all I see is that the player must complete two semesters with a full minimum course load. Once Harry completes that load and grades are out to prove it, he would be eligible. 12/16, provided grades are posted, is the earliest he could play. If there's a more detailed description than this it may mean 12/17 or later.

Regardless, Vermont is huge. Bigger even than Fresno last year because they have been so consistent. In 6 years under John Becker, every season they were top-200 RPI and top-151 Pomeroy. This is the kind of game I get excited about because winning games like this at home as opposed to Grambling is critical in determining bids and seeding.

Even if they go away from RPI, every metric uses schedule strength and the NCAA won't stop paying attention to who you play. Massive game.

They do graduate two seniors and lost one bench player to transfer, but they will still be good.

Brew, Marquette isn't going to post grades early for one basketball player and field all the calls about 'special treatment'.  Tuesday, December 19th at 5p, just like every single other student my good man.  If there's a game that night, he plays.

[Nukem2]

I looked up the NCAA rules and provided them.

See what jsglow posted.

[jsglow]

If we're scared of Vermont at home in wojos 4th season with all the pieces he brought in...

I agree with this analysis.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Great add to the schedule.  I was terrified about seeing Chicago State again.  This makes up for it.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Brew, Marquette isn't going to post grades early for one basketball player and field all the calls about 'special treatment'.  Tuesday, December 19th at 5p, just like every single other student my good man.  If there's a game that night, he plays.

Is Marquette really that robotic in when grades are posted? At TAMU, its up to each individual professor to post grades. Some get posted the last possible day, some get posted the same day as the final (i.e. a week before the last day of the semester).

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Vermont is a tremendous add to the non-conference schedule. You can't really ask for a better buy game. They are a legit top 75 team in the country and they play in a conference where no team is even close to their equal. They will run roughshod through the America East and all those wins will do wonders for our RPI.

To those who are scared, this is a team we should beat at home 9 times out of 10.

To those who aren't scared, this is the kind of team that can come into a high major gym and win. I don't think being scared is correct, but you've got to give a team like Vermont respect.

[jsglow]

Is Marquette really that robotic in when grades are posted? At TAMU, its up to each individual professor to post grades. Some get posted the last possible day, some get posted the same day as the final (i.e. a week before the last day of the semester).

Simple answer TAMU, yes.  Now professors can tell students their grades early but CheckMarq literally 'locks' in terms of grades until 5p on Tuesday.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Simple answer TAMU, yes.  Now professors can tell students their grades early but CheckMarq literally 'locks' in terms of grades until 5p on Tuesday.

Interesting. That seems silly to me but I'm sure there's a good reason behind it.

[jsglow]

Interesting. That seems silly to me but I'm sure there's a good reason behind it.

Let me try to describe the reasoning and then let's let this drop as it gets too far into the weeds.  MU's academic calendar is set in stone.  Grades post on such and such date.  Grades can be appealed until such and such date.  Classes can be dropped with a grade W until such and such date. They adhere rigidly to all those standards so there won't be disputes about anything.

It's kinda like your .08% BAC threshold for consent, my brother! 

[Galway Eagle]

Interesting. That seems silly to me but I'm sure there's a good reason behind it.

It was the same when you were there. I remember freshman year checkmarq would sometimes be overloaded because the moment grades were posted all the students would log on at the same time.

[jsglow]

It was the same when you were there. I remember freshman year checkmarq would sometimes be overloaded because the moment grades were posted all the students would log on at the same time.

Holding out for those Cs, hey bags?  (Too easy.  Had to.   )

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It was the same when you were there. I remember freshman year checkmarq would sometimes be overloaded because the moment grades were posted all the students would log on at the same time.

I'm sure it was. I never really cared about checking my grades ASAP. I usually would remember at some point during winter break "Oh I wonder what my final grades were" and then would log on.

[Marquette4life]

Vermont? That's a good game. These are the kind of games we should be scheduling

[brewcity77]

Brew, Marquette isn't going to post grades early for one basketball player and field all the calls about 'special treatment'.  Tuesday, December 19th at 5p, just like every single other student my good man.  If there's a game that night, he plays.

Which changes nothing of what I said. Marquette may not let him play until Tuesday because of institution specific policies, but he would be eligible with grades on Saturday per NCAA rules.

[Galway Eagle]

Holding out for those Cs, hey bags?  (Too easy.  Had to.   )

C's for degrees!

[Nukem2]

Which changes nothing of what I said. Marquette may not let him play until Tuesday because of institution specific policies, but he would be eligible with grades on Saturday per NCAA rules.

NCAA rules say a transfer from a four year school must be in residence for a full academic year prior to being eligible.  For Harry (and same with Luke previously,) that 2nd semester of his "academic year" in residence includes the last day of that "academic year" which would be 12/16/17.  Not an MU thing. Again, you won't be seeing Harry play on 12/16/17.

[Jay Bee]

Tuesday, December 19th at 5p, just like every single other student my good man.

...but that time is NOT when grades must be submitted by.

[Nukem2]

NCAA rules say a transfer from a four year school must be in residence for a full academic year prior to being eligible.  For Harry (and same with Luke previously,) that 2nd semester of his "academic year" in residence includes the last day of that "academic year" which would be 12/16/17.  Not an MU thing. Again, you won't be seeing Harry play on 12/16/17.

A PS on the subject.  In Wojos's 3 season at MU, there has not been a game on the Saturday following the Wisconsin game.  Not sure if that's a Wojo/Duke thing about scheduling after the end of the 1st semester or not.  In any event, its quite likely that MU will not have a game on 12/16.

[brewcity77]

NCAA rules say a transfer from a four year school must be in residence for a full academic year prior to being eligible.  For Harry (and same with Luke previously,) that 2nd semester of his "academic year" in residence includes the last day of that "academic year" which would be 12/16/17.  Not an MU thing. Again, you won't be seeing Harry play on 12/16/17.

I linked the rules. That is not what they state. Once he has been enrolled and completed two semesters of work, he is eligible. According to the rules, he could be eligible as soon as his last final was over.

Go read the document I linked. If there's something I'm missing, feel free to cite it, otherwise you're tilting at windmills.

[Nukem2]

I linked the rules. That is not what they state. Once he has been enrolled and completed two semesters of work, he is eligible. According to the rules, he could be eligible as soon as his last final was over.

Go read the document I linked. If there's something I'm missing, feel free to cite it, otherwise you're tilting at windmills.

Where is the link?  Don't see it.   Also, see my post about games after WI and 1st semester.

[brewcity77]

Unless there's a "the student must complete their work, then wait for everyone else enrolled simultaneously to also complete their work" clause that I missed...

[Marcus92]

December 5 against Vermont. This is an excellent game for RPI purposes but one that I fear we will lose. CAtamounts were 29-6 last season, won like 21 in a row, and it appears they had 0 seniors.

Expect a good game. But don't fear the Catamounts.

Vermont finished 63rd in KenPom's rankings for 2016-17. Last season, Marquette lost just one game at home to teams ranked outside the Top 25 — a 79-78 heartbreaker to #60 Providence — going 13-0 against the rest. That included wins against #69 Georgetown, #51 Seton Hall, #31 Xavier and #28 Creighton.

It's also worth taking a closer look at Vermont's schedule and results. Their impressive 29-6 record didn't include a single win against a Top 100 opponent. Losses included #60 Providence, #52 Houston and #159 Northeastern — all ranked well below #32 Marquette.

[jsglow]

Which changes nothing of what I said. Marquette may not let him play until Tuesday because of institution specific policies, but he would be eligible with grades on Saturday per NCAA rules.

We agree. But the reality is that he won't be playing on 12/16.

[jsglow]

...but that time is NOT when grades must be submitted by.

You're 100% correct.  If memory serves, grades must be submitted no later than noon that same day.  Six in one, half dozen in the other.

[brewcity77]

Expect a good game. But don't fear the Catamounts.

Under Coach John Becker, Vermont is 1-20 in non-con games against top-100 teams according to Pomeroy. The lone win was at Harvard in December 2012. This is an ideal low-risk, high-reward game.