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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #300 on: July 19, 2017, 05:40:30 PM »
Ehh. It won't hurt MU's chances and is an interesting note, but these guys are 18-23 year old kids most likely flying charter. I'd expect them to be fresh, but that is a quick turnaround.

Don't these wusses have any 17 year olds on their team?

PS - always worthwhile to remember that an opponent's RPI no matta. Their RPI doesn't directly impact your RPI.
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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #301 on: July 19, 2017, 06:14:12 PM »
Okay, I'm trying to find the best comparisons to figure out where our schedule will end up. Here are some comparisons from last year based on my kenpom projections, with the first column being Marquette

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Home     Clemson-91  Georgetown-99  Baylor-110  Oregon-137  Mississippi-174
 25     (SA) 56           46           10          56             13
 50          59           96           31          94             43
 75          61          121          108          98            101
175         107          124          212         104            157
225         145          136          234         194            194
250         270          244          236         230            197
325         336          338          326         248            210
325         343          343          329         317            217
Neutral                                                          243
 75          85           10            9          69             28
 25          22           21           48          57            183
 25          21           21           40          96            236
Away                     140
 50          36           55           74          13             50

It's hard to find exact comparisons. What I focused on was teams that played 1 true road game, 3 neutral court games, and at least two top-100 home games. At a rough guess, I'd say we are looking at a non-conference schedule rating right around 100 if we beat VCU and around 140-150 if we lose.

And while wades may disagree, that's why VCU is the most important game on the schedule. I think two of the best comparisons are Clemson and Oregon, with the main difference between the two being their neutral site opponents. Clemson played three strong opponents and finished 91 in NCSOS per kenpom. Oregon played 3 mediocre opponents (also losing the Maui opener) and finished 137.

It's not an exact science, but when the winner's bracket will likely have three top-25 teams in Wichita State, Notre Dame, and Michigan and the loser's bracket will likely have two sub-75 teams in Cal and LSU (along with non-counter Chaminade), that's a huge difference.

Edit: And I know it's not the rankings, it's the ratings, but I don't have the time at the moment to try to break down all the scores.
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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #302 on: July 20, 2017, 07:15:21 AM »
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« Reply #303 on: July 29, 2017, 06:44:41 PM »
Wichita St's Shamet 2 DL. Broken wheel. May be just getting back in Maui (assuming all goes well for him... )
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« Reply #304 on: July 29, 2017, 07:38:56 PM »
Wichita St's Shamet 2 DL. Broken wheel. May be just getting back in Maui (assuming all goes well for him... )

Estimated 12-16 weeks for recovery (October 23rd to November 20th). Should be ready to go for the start of the season but those kind of injuries can linger.
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« Reply #305 on: July 30, 2017, 10:55:04 AM »
Estimated 12-16 weeks for recovery (October 23rd to November 20th). Should be ready to go for the start of the season but those kind of injuries can linger.

Very tough break.  I never want to see athletes get injured.

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« Reply #306 on: July 30, 2017, 01:43:50 PM »
Very tough break.  I never want to see athletes get injured.

Agreed.  Kid has legit all American potential.  Hopefully the injury didn't impact his season (though I hope he goes 0/11 from the field against us!)
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« Reply #307 on: July 30, 2017, 01:53:50 PM »
Agreed.  Kid has legit all American potential.  Hopefully the injury didn't impact his season (though I hope he goes 0/11 from the field against us!)

Now that's different TAMU.  We both hope every shot is a brick.

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« Reply #308 on: July 30, 2017, 02:35:52 PM »
Hopefully he's ready to go for the Maui Invitational third place game.
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« Reply #309 on: August 02, 2017, 12:20:04 AM »
Wow, that's big. I saw a few articles that said Lewis stuck around, but that must've been referring to him not transferring.

On a mostly-unrelated scheduling note, I just took a look at Wisconsin's non-conference schedule today. It looks brutal:

  • Xavier (H)
  • Baylor (N)
  • Creighton/UCLA (N)
  • Virginia (A)
  • Temple (A)
  • Marquette (H)
  • Yale (H)
  • Western Kentucky (H)
While I know that last one might not look impressive, the Hilltoppers have a top-10 recruiting class and two of the top grad transfers in the country. They also play two conference games in this time. If the Badgers are down, and with 4 graduating starters that could be the case, their non-conference slate could look similar or worse than Bo's last year when they went 8-5 in non-con play.

I remembered that we had talked about Western Kentucky in this thread and thought this would be as good a place as any to share this story.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/western-kentucky-suspends-5-star-freshman-after-he-bolts-from-campus/

It seems like Western Kentucky's prized 5 star recruit just decided to leave campus one day. Staff came to check on him and he had cleaned out his room. He now either needs to play overseas, wait to declare for the draft, return to Western Kentucky, or sit out an entire year as a transfer. I suppose he could try for a waiver from the NCAA and claim that because his Godfather left the WKU coaching staff he should be allowed to transfer and be immediately eligible but I don't see that happening. Just a bizzare story.

So....anyone want a former top 10 recruit who is also a flight risk?
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« Reply #310 on: August 02, 2017, 07:23:54 AM »
I think the Rick Stansbury experiment will be very interesting and entertaining to watch, and not always in a good way.
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« Reply #311 on: August 14, 2017, 09:39:37 PM »
The Milwaukee Bucks' schedule is now out. Some notable things:
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  • Dec. 2: The Georgia game will be an afternoon tip because the Bucks play that night.
  • Dec. 26-28: Big East has played a mid-week opener the past two years. The Bucks are at home the 26th & 28th, so if we open at home, it will have to be on the 27th.
  • Dec. 30-Jan. 1: Bucks are out of town the whole weekend. If MU isn't at home the 27th, they likely will be one of these three days.
  • Jan.-Mar. Saturdays: The Bucks don't have a single home game on a Saturday during Big East play. Marquette should have at least 2, if not as many as 4-5 home Saturday night games during conference play.
  • Jan. 15: The Bucks play in DC on MLK Day. If the Big East does another marathon, we could be at home this year.
  • Feb. 28-Mar. 3: Likely one of these will be Andrew Rowsey's Senior Night.
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« Reply #312 on: August 14, 2017, 09:41:16 PM »
The Milwaukee Bucks' schedule is now out. Some notable things:
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  • Dec. 2: The Georgia game will be an afternoon tip because the Bucks play that night.
  • Dec. 26-28: Big East has played a mid-week opener the past two years. The Bucks are at home the 26th & 28th, so if we open at home, it will have to be on the 27th.
  • Dec. 30-Jan. 1: Bucks are out of town the whole weekend. If MU isn't at home the 27th, they likely will be one of these three days.
  • Jan.-Mar. Saturdays: The Bucks don't have a single home game on a Saturday during Big East play. Marquette should have at least 2, if not as many as 4-5 home Saturday night games during conference play.
  • Jan. 15: The Bucks play in DC on MLK Day. If the Big East does another marathon, we could be at home this year.
  • Feb. 28-Mar. 3: Likely one of these will be Andrew Rowsey's Senior Night.

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Re: 2017-2018 OOC Schedule
« Reply #313 on: August 14, 2017, 10:06:19 PM »
Took not even 5 minutes to figure out the possibility of multiple saturday night Beast games

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« Reply #314 on: August 14, 2017, 10:07:24 PM »
Give me Saturday afternoon games - those are the best.

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« Reply #315 on: August 14, 2017, 10:22:47 PM »
The Milwaukee Bucks' schedule is now out. Some notable things:
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  • Dec. 2: The Georgia game will be an afternoon tip because the Bucks play that night.
  • Dec. 26-28: Big East has played a mid-week opener the past two years. The Bucks are at home the 26th & 28th, so if we open at home, it will have to be on the 27th.
  • Dec. 30-Jan. 1: Bucks are out of town the whole weekend. If MU isn't at home the 27th, they likely will be one of these three days.
  • Jan.-Mar. Saturdays: The Bucks don't have a single home game on a Saturday during Big East play. Marquette should have at least 2, if not as many as 4-5 home Saturday night games during conference play.
  • Jan. 15: The Bucks play in DC on MLK Day. If the Big East does another marathon, we could be at home this year.
  • Feb. 28-Mar. 3: Likely one of these will be Andrew Rowsey's Senior Night.
Good work Brew---however 5 Sat night Big East games won't happen.  I don't have a good reason, I just think we are closer to two.

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« Reply #316 on: August 15, 2017, 06:15:12 AM »
Good work Brew---however 5 Sat night Big East games won't happen.  I don't have a good reason, I just think we are closer to two.

I doubt it as well. However in the 3 years of the new league, we have played 14 Saturday home games, with last year being the only year we didn't have 5 Saturday home games. If MU has first choice on those days with the Bucks out of town, it seems likely they'll be able to have their pick of night games.
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« Reply #317 on: August 15, 2017, 08:20:42 AM »
I doubt it as well. However in the 3 years of the new league, we have played 14 Saturday home games, with last year being the only year we didn't have 5 Saturday home games. If MU has first choice on those days with the Bucks out of town, it seems likely they'll be able to have their pick of night games.


Remember that Fox is going to dictate when a lot of those games tip.  They seem to prefer basketball in the afternoon leaving the evenings open for MMA.

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« Reply #318 on: August 15, 2017, 08:48:59 AM »

Remember that Fox is going to dictate when a lot of those games tip.  They seem to prefer basketball in the afternoon leaving the evenings open for MMA.

Night games is relative. I think we have a lot of options for 4 pm and later tips. I don't expect a rash of 7:30 games, but I do think we have a good chance of seeing more games end after dark.
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« Reply #320 on: August 15, 2017, 11:11:30 AM »
Many Saturday nights in Jan & Feb, FS1 has UFC and Motorcross in primetime. If there will be a Saturday night home games, it's because the game will fall on CBSSN. Don't take too much stock in what the Bucks schedule is.
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« Reply #321 on: August 15, 2017, 12:45:35 PM »
Many Saturday nights in Jan & Feb, FS1 has UFC and Motorcross in primetime. If there will be a Saturday night home games, it's because the game will fall on CBSSN. Don't take too much stock in what the Bucks schedule is.

Agreed.  But it does give FOX and FS1 the ability to bounce us around various time slots because no usher is hollering at us to get out so they can retrofit for the Bucks.

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« Reply #323 on: September 06, 2017, 03:20:42 PM »
Definitely the wrong tread. But great video with some much needed off season marquette basketball content:

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« Reply #324 on: September 06, 2017, 04:02:22 PM »
Big East Schedule Next Week

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/902572273000960000

Delayed until next week, per Rothstein today.
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