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Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 02, 2017, 08:58:31 PM
good stuff, but if i missed it somewhere up there, i apologize-coaching naismith, future NBA and future NBA guys who play 3-4 years for ya can't hurt either.  not taking away from your point as it's all kinda relative.  wooden's numbers are incredible, but...regardless, he's one of the greatest of all times


My point was that Jockey said that Wooden was a great coach because he coached not only teams with Jabbar and Walton on them to titles.  Which is true, but it also understates the amount of talent his other teams had.  He had a ton of talent.

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on April 02, 2017, 08:03:28 PM
Those teams had 2 guys drafted in the top 20 picks of the 2015 draft.  College success has never directly portended NBA success especially with all of the young one and done talent.  To pretend he was dragging along an underdog squad of untalented players is silly.

Fact #1, I said that Bo's roster was full of 3 and 4 star talent.

Fact #2, I said he didn't get the talent that the blue bloods get.

If you want to argue with that, you need to learn more about the subject. Put words in someone else's mouth - not mine.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on April 02, 2017, 09:36:00 PM
Fact #1, I said that Bo's roster was full of 3 and 4 star talent.

Fact #2, I said he didn't get the talent that the blue bloods get.

If you want to argue with that, you need to learn more about the subject. Put words in someone else's mouth - not mine.

Yeesh, simmer.  You seemingly went out of your way to say "future NBA All-Stars" which seemed an almost excessive caveat to further separate squads.  Apologies if you felt personally attacked, I was rather tacking on the often disproven idea about Bo's supposed lack of talent to increase his coaching lore.

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on April 02, 2017, 11:27:03 PM
Yeesh, simmer.  You seemingly went out of your way to say "future NBA All-Stars" which seemed an almost excessive caveat to further separate squads.  Apologies if you felt personally attacked, I was rather tacking on the often disproven idea about Bo's supposed lack of talent to increase his coaching lore.

Actually, I only mentioned future NBA All Stars in reply to a comment by Sultan about Wooden's career.

I apologize as well. I totally agree that Bo got better players than he got credit for. You should be good when your guys are all 3 and 4 star guys  He just doesn't get the same quality guys as the blue bloods.

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