Duane

[dw3dw3dw3]

I know someone answered Lewis and Poole, which is def true. But the funny story with Lucas is that he is not an Ike guy even though he is a city guy. He is a Milwaukee Spartan guy -- and guess who else is a Spartan guy -- Matt Heldt. They are long-time buds and before Howard and Rowsey, I could have seen him in an MU uni. He is small though.

Lewis and Poole are '17 guys we had no shot on, but Ike has made a huge power play on the '18 class and has almost all of the top guys not named Hauser. Herro, Curtis, Plumb, Trapp, Justice, Foster Jr., etc.

Will they get invited back to the EYBL? Did they get dropped because they couldn't field a competitive team or not enough pro-potential? 

[4everwarriors]

MPS playas no matta, hey?

[4everwarriors]

Reality. I think bad fit on most if not all, but when we "messed with" Duane, we went at the king's son. Having a bad experience with one guy, say McKay or Burton, in itself would be seen as normal (I know McKay was not a Wojo guy but he is a city kid who left MU). But there are bad experiences with ALL of Ike's guys recently. My general point is that the city doesn't have much love for the MU brand right now, or in the immediate future.

May be Ike's da won wit da problem, ai na?

[Dr. Blackheart]

MKE, PHI and CHI dried up. MINNE and DET opened up. Can Wojo afford to be shut out close to home?

[Freeport Warrior]

Will they get invited back to the EYBL? Did they get dropped because they couldn't field a competitive team or not enough pro-potential?

I thought they were dead in the water, then Ike pulled a real coup a few months ago. First he got Herro to leave McCabe and Playground Warriors, then the 4 best guys on that team followed, including Trapp, the 7' 2" center from MN (MU recruit I believe - not a fan, i.e. Rod Gross). Then he got Carlos Curtis of Riverside to leave United and they tried to get Keontae White of MKE Hamilton (I think he committed initially, but has since rescinded). Then he kept the best 3 or 4 of players on the existing Playground Elite team including Greg Foster's kid. They also added DTA's best player, 6' 8" Bilal Shabbaz from Pius. They have too many guys in my opinion, but headlined by Herro, they will be decent. And because of the stars on this team, they are in the EYBL. I fully expect this team to blow up at some point like they all do because of egos and PT, lol.

[Freeport Warrior]

May be Ike's da won wit da problem, ai na?

Wouldn't disagree. Normally, a kid not getting the time he and his dad think he deserves just accepts it or transfers and it's over. This ain't that.

[EnderWiggen]

May be Ike's da won wit da problem, ai na?

Is this English?

[MomofMUltiples]

The Ike thing seems to be something completely out of our control. Presumably, Wojo set the lineups and minutes according to how he believed the team could best win games.  He may have been right, he may have been wrong, but what this proves is that Wojo is an independent guy - not influenced by players' parents or HS coaches.  I'm sorry Duane's dad didn't think he was treated fairly, but to my view Wojo ran a merit-based system.  It's unfortunate that Ike cannot see that his son was not as talented as others on the team and instead has decided to proclaim that Duane was "screwed over," and thus has decided to poison the minds of young basketball players who look to him for advice on their future playing careers.  I think Wojo can develop a much wider recruiting base - maybe even national - and if Marquette performs, pretty soon young players will no longer listen to Ike.  Overall, I would say that Ike raised a son with exceptional character.  Holding grudges is pretty petty in the grand scheme of things.

[Uncle Rico]

The Ike thing seems to be something completely out of our control. Presumably, Wojo set the lineups and minutes according to how he believed the team could best win games.  He may have been right, he may have been wrong, but what this proves is that Wojo is an independent guy - not influenced by players' parents or HS coaches.  I'm sorry Duane's dad didn't think he was treated fairly, but to my view Wojo ran a merit-based system.  It's unfortunate that Ike cannot see that his son was not as talented as others on the team and instead has decided to proclaim that Duane was "screwed over," and thus has decided to poison the minds of young basketball players who look to him for advice on their future playing careers.  I think Wojo can develop a much wider recruiting base - maybe even national - and if Marquette performs, pretty soon young players will no longer listen to Ike.  Overall, I would say that Ike raised a son with exceptional character.  Holding grudges is pretty petty in the grand scheme of things.

This.  Coaches at programs have so many things to worry about.  While keeping all pipelines and avenues open is ideal, someone is going to be mad about playing time or how a kid is being used.

It's a shame it comes to this, but sadly, it happens in a lot of places. 

[Pakuni]

Well, it's a good thing Tim Maymon doesn't run an AAU program.

[GoldenDieners32]

I thought they were dead in the water, then Ike pulled a real coup a few months ago. First he got Herro to leave McCabe and Playground Warriors, then the 4 best guys on that team followed, including Trapp, the 7' 2" center from MN (MU recruit I believe - not a fan, i.e. Rod Gross). Then he got Carlos Curtis of Riverside to leave United and they tried to get Keontae White of MKE Hamilton (I think he committed initially, but has since rescinded). Then he kept the best 3 or 4 of players on the existing Playground Elite team including Greg Foster's kid. They also added DTA's best player, 6' 8" Bilal Shabbaz from Pius. They have too many guys in my opinion, but headlined by Herro, they will be decent. And because of the stars on this team, they are in the EYBL. I fully expect this team to blow up at some point like they all do because of egos and PT, lol.

My friend is on the 16u team and he said Mccabe is still on Playground warriors but Nobal Days from Racine Park? is playing with them

[Galway Eagle]

The Ike thing seems to be something completely out of our control. Presumably, Wojo set the lineups and minutes according to how he believed the team could best win games.  He may have been right, he may have been wrong, but what this proves is that Wojo is an independent guy - not influenced by players' parents or HS coaches.  I'm sorry Duane's dad didn't think he was treated fairly, but to my view Wojo ran a merit-based system.  It's unfortunate that Ike cannot see that his son was not as talented as others on the team and instead has decided to proclaim that Duane was "screwed over," and thus has decided to poison the minds of young basketball players who look to him for advice on their future playing careers.  I think Wojo can develop a much wider recruiting base - maybe even national - and if Marquette performs, pretty soon young players will no longer listen to Ike.  Overall, I would say that Ike raised a son with exceptional character.  Holding grudges is pretty petty in the grand scheme of things.

Nonsense! Holding a grudge against a coach that isn't the initial guy you recruited to and ignoring the fact that you simply aren't as talented as the younger guys makes perfect sense!

More seriously I wonder what was going through Ike's head when his son was actually getting aggressive late in the season and kept finishing short or getting blocked. Think it was a moment of reality or does he still live in his own little world

[wadesworld]

Is it really that unfathomable that a parent thinks his kid should be getting more playing time and is looking to better his options? Good for Duane. He stuck it out for 4 years, worked hard, never publicly put anybody down, and earned the right to explore his options. Congratulations on getting your degree from Marquette and best of luck in the last year of your college basketball career.

Whether Ike is bashing MU or not really isn't a huge deal, nor is it important. My guess is Wojo was only overly interested in Herro out of that group, and I'm *fairly* confident that the reason he chose Wisconsin wasn't because Ike told him to go screw Wojo over and go to UW.

Good luck Duane. You will be missed.

[goinUptown]

Because combo guards at the 1 is how you win basketball games these days.

Examples please?

[lohaus]

I am appreciative of his four years, hard work, and accepting his role with class.  He earned his degree in four years.  He would like to transfer for better opportunities.  Good for him.  Hopefully he will get half way to a Master.

I am looking forward to following his development as a point guard. Is this a huge loss? Absolutely not.  I don't think we should be upset that Wojo is recruiting players that are better then the existing players.  Hell, I will take that every single damn time.  If you throw out Howard, Rowsey, and Duane and tell me to pick two then I'm picking the snipers.  If you throw out Reinhardt, Hauser, and Cohen and say pick two then the choice is obvious!

Good luck Duane on your next stop!

[Freeport Warrior]

My friend is on the 16u team and he said Mccabe is still on Playground warriors but Nobal Days from Racine Park? is playing with them

Days still has Playground Elite on his twitter and I had heard he is playing up on this EYBL team too. Forgot to mention. May have changed but his brother played for PE too. McCabe is Playground Warriors and a lot of people confuse the two teams.

[GoldenDieners32]

Days still has Playground Elite on his twitter and I had heard he is playing up on this EYBL team too. Forgot to mention. May have changed but his brother played for PE too. McCabe is Playground Warriors and a lot of people confuse the two teams.

Nobal goes to Park right? I just wanted to make sure i was right.

[SaveOD238]

Nobal goes to Park right? I just wanted to make sure i was right.

Yes.  I wish he was at St Cats, but admin here wasn't willing to roll out the red carpet for the older brother, so both went to public school.

FWIW the big AAU program here in Racine is Butler Elite, but aside from Caron's son JC I don't know if there's any big name recruits in that group.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What about a spot at a place like Bradley for Duane? Seems like the right level where he could make an impact.

He could be a star there....provided Wardle doesn't make him crap himself

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

C'mon man. Virtually everybody on this board believes our program is superior to sc
Probably less about Martin compared to wojo. Point being, wojo got his ass smoked by a lesser program.

SC is a lesser program. They had a better team this season. It happens. Color me unfazed.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Examples please?

See Curry, Steph.

[willie warrior]

SC is a lesser program. They had a better team this season. It happens. Color me unfazed.

Grating beat quite a bit the last 4 years by better and lesser teams. Color me unfazed also. Just sayin and wonderin.

[wadesworld]

Grating beat quite a bit the last 4 years by better and lesser teams. Color me unfazed also. Just sayin and wonderin.

Mazos, go Tweet about it.

[bilsu]

SC is a lesser program. They had a better team this season. It happens. Color me unfazed.

Historically this is true, but it may not be going forward.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Historically this is true, but it may not be going forward.

Certainly possible. But keep in mind that while we just ended a three year postseason drought, they just ended a 13 year postseason drought. They also lose their starting backcourt to graduation, including their 21 point per game scorer. So my guess is that their program won't be catching ours anytime soon.