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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2017, 04:24:55 PM »
We need to get Detroit or Oakland on the schedule rotation now that we have recruited Jamal Cain and Ike Eke. A 3 for 1 would be good.
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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2017, 04:37:34 PM »
I thought UWM wanted a home game from us and we don't want to lose that revenue.

That's what it's boiled down to the last few years, but let's be clear that we're talking both ticket revenue and TV (UWM would get media rights for their home game)... MU has to provide the Big East with so many home games that FS1 can air (or sell) every year on the OOC schedule, and with MU trending to annual holiday tourneys, more "conference challenges" and more 1 for 1's with other high-majors, to give up one game every three or four years - in addition to what they're already committed to - could be more of a strain on MU and/or the conference that it seems... especially with not knowing where the conference could be 3-4 years from now (adding Dayton to the Big East* and going to a 20-game R/R schedule would further reduce the opportunity for OOC media rights).

That said, at this point I think Wojo would have enough pull to put UWM on the schedule if he wanted, but it would likely come at the expense of a secret scrimmage or exhibition game, the former of which coaches seem to be leaning on these days.  And given the choice between a scrimmage against a quality opponent that doesn't count against you or a game vs. the local mid-major who - win or lose - would likely be a drag on your RPI (and your revenues), I think most coaches would opt for the former.  So we're probably not going to see UWM anytime soon.


* Just keeping the hypotheticals on the same intellectual plane as MU playing UWM.
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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2017, 04:40:42 PM »
We need to get Detroit or Oakland on the schedule rotation now that we have recruited Jamal Cain and Ike Eke. A 3 for 1 would be good.

I'd be on board with this, actually. Didn't they play a game at Oakland for Grimm when TC was here?

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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2017, 04:50:39 PM »
Catholic, not Christian.

And guess, what, few Big East teams will accept road games in west coast gyms that seat 5K or less.

By calling it a Christian conference he is including Catholics
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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2017, 05:23:33 PM »
By calling it a Christian conference he is including Catholics

While USF, SCU, LMU and Gonzaga are Jesuit, St. Mary's is simply Catholic, BYU Mormon, USD Catholic, Pepperdine Christian (I think) and I don't know if Portland or Pacific have affiliations. 

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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2017, 05:32:18 PM »
While USF, SCU, LMU and Gonzaga are Jesuit, St. Mary's is simply Catholic, BYU Mormon, USD Catholic, Pepperdine Christian (I think) and I don't know if Portland or Pacific have affiliations.

The Society of Jesus is a religious order of Catholicism. Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. Therefore, stating it is a predometly Christian Conference incorporates Catholicism.
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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2017, 08:19:33 PM »
Seton Hall's Angel Delgado and Khadeen Carrington will both enter 2017 NBA draft, but wont hire an agent, per multiple sources
From Jon Rothstein Twitter

I find it interesting, both probably wont get drafted probably will return to school with the new policy where you can return back to school after the combine 

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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2017, 08:24:50 PM »
Seton Hall's Angel Delgado and Khadeen Carrington will both enter 2017 NBA draft, but wont hire an agent, per multiple sources
From Jon Rothstein Twitter

I find it interesting, both probably wont get drafted probably will return to school with the new policy where you can return back to school after the combine
Also Georgetown's LJ Peak is forgoing his senior season to enter the draft and intends to sign a agent

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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2017, 08:56:38 PM »
While USF, SCU, LMU and Gonzaga are Jesuit, St. Mary's is simply Catholic, BYU Mormon, USD Catholic, Pepperdine Christian (I think) and I don't know if Portland or Pacific have affiliations. 

Portland is Catholic. Pacific has Methodist roots.

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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2017, 09:19:24 PM »
U of Portland is Catholic.  Holy Cross Fathers.  (ND light)

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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2017, 11:05:25 PM »
Also Georgetown's LJ Peak is forgoing his senior season to enter the draft and intends to sign a agent

Well there goes any chance of Georgetown rebounding next season
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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2017, 11:48:34 PM »
The Society of Jesus is a religious order of Catholicism. Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. Therefore, stating it is a predometly Christian Conference incorporates Catholicism.

yes, you clarified.  I tried to state that as well.  I vaguely used Christian because all WCC teams are Christian, with most being Catholic.  I differentiated between St. Mary's and the Jesuit schools, as we all know they are a specific order of Catholicism. 

My point is that instead of playing Coppin St, Prairie View A&M, etc, it would be nice to see the Big East fill games with WCC programs, as they would both likely benefit from RPI boosts AND would encourage basketball competition among leagues with similar values. 

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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2017, 08:41:59 AM »
Well there goes any chance of Georgetown rebounding next season
I think Delgado and Carrington will return

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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2017, 09:04:07 AM »
Well there goes any chance of Georgetown rebounding next season

Govan and Agau may get a few, but since they really didn't rebound this year, I doubt they'll do it next year  :P
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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2017, 10:14:15 AM »
I think Delgado and Carrington will return

I think Delgado will be gone, Carrington will be back. 
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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2017, 10:27:03 AM »
I think Delgado will be gone, Carrington will be back.
Delgado should only leave if he knows hes a first rounder, if he comes back next season i think he'll be a first rounder

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Re: 2017-2018 Season
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2017, 10:30:31 AM »
Delgado should only leave if he knows hes a first rounder, if he comes back next season i think he'll be a first rounder
Yup.  Delgado is a hard one to rank as he has such a limited offensive game.  But, the guy sure has a big motor.

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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2017, 10:31:16 AM »
Yup.  Delgado is a hard one to rank as he has such a limited offensive game.  But, the guy sure has a big motor.
I think he should stay, But i want him to leave so he doesn't tear us up again next season

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« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2017, 10:34:41 AM »
Yup.  Delgado is a hard one to rank as he has such a limited offensive game.  But, the guy sure has a big motor.

If he can defend the rim and rebound in the post, there will be room for him in the NBA.  Can his offensive game develop?  If so, a first round selection is very likely. 

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« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2017, 11:02:33 AM »
If he can defend the rim and rebound in the post, there will be room for him in the NBA.  Can his offensive game develop?  If so, a first round selection is very likely.

He should go now. He's had three years to develop an offensive game and it hasn't happened. It is cringeworthy watching him shoot a free throw much less a 12 footer.

With Carrington and Rodriguez back in the fold and Powell expanding his game, the ball isn't moving any more to Delgado in the post than it did this past season. He got his cleaning up the mess others created and it will be 30 more games of the same in 2017-2018 for him.

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« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2017, 11:06:53 AM »
He should go now. He's had three years to develop an offensive game and it hasn't happened. It is cringeworthy watching him shoot a free throw much less a 12 footer.

With Carrington and Rodriguez back in the fold and Powell expanding his game, the ball isn't moving any more to Delgado in the post than it did this past season. He got his cleaning up the mess others created and it will be 30 more games of the same in 2017-2018 for him.

I agree he's not likely to get much better, at least not enough to improve his draft stock.  But I would stay in school and get the degree if I don't think I'm going to be drafted.  Plus he's a darned good college player and it is fun to be very good at something.
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