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ChitownSpaceForRent

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2016, 03:46:41 PM »
But me in the Traci "The Engine" Carter camp for this year.

Markus is like Duane with a higher upside, can hold his own as a PG, but probably better suited playing off the ball as he did for team USA.

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2016, 04:52:41 PM »
Traci is a true point guard and therefore the better point guard.


Define "true point guard."

Chris Paul scores a lot of points and takes most big shots for the Clippers, but he's a pretty pure PG.

Russell Westbrook averages 10+ assists. He's pure enough for me.

Steph Curry is the best PG in the NBA. Scored 30 a game last year. Pure enough?

Kemba Walker is great at setting up his teammates but he has become an All-Star for the Hornets because he is scoring 25+ points. Purely speaking.

Etc, etc, etc.

I mean, call me crazy, but I'd take an unpure Curry type over a Traci type of pure PG every day of the week.

Of course, Markus Howard is not quite Steph Curry - but that's not what this is about. It's about pure vs. unpure.

Disclosure: I like both Markus and Traci. They'd make one hell of a player if somebody in the MU Science Dept. could combine 'em!
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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2016, 04:55:32 PM »
Plus Markus can certainly get minutes at the #2 in addition to maybe 10-15 at the #1.  Traci only plays the #1 where he'll certainly see 20+ minutes every night.  As Eng said on the pod, it might be a bit of a matchup advantage that they play the position somewhat differently.

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2016, 05:12:40 PM »
Traci only plays the #1 where he'll certainly see 20+ minutes every night.

Define "certainly"? Or "see". When will this occur? Every game he's been sub-20 except 1 at 20 & 1 at 21.

"He may occasionally see 20+!minutes" works better, ainnner?
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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2016, 04:26:23 PM »
And today Traci played only 9.

Oh, how 'bout them pups?  ;D

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2016, 04:38:08 PM »
Wojo has brought in seven freshman since he got here.

Four of them have been very good.  (Henry, Haanif, Sam and Markus)
Two of them have been contributors  (Matt, Traci)
One is a project on redshirt (Sacar)

I can live with that.

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2016, 04:39:10 PM »
Wojo has brought in seven freshman since he got here.

Four of them have been very good.  (Henry, Haanif, Sam and Markus)
Two of them have been contributors  (Matt, Traci)
One is a project on redshirt (Sacar)

I can live with that.

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2016, 04:41:35 PM »
Wojo has brought in seven freshman since he got here.

Four of them have been very good.  (Henry, Haanif, Sam and Markus)
Two of them have been contributors  (Matt, Traci)
One is a project on redshirt (Sacar)

I can live with that.

Excellent point.  And let's remember that in the Spring of '15 Wojo HAD to sign a PG.  Not disappointed with the engine at all.

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2016, 04:44:08 PM »
Wojo has brought in seven freshman since he got here.

Four of them have been very good.  (Henry, Haanif, Sam and Markus)
Two of them have been contributors  (Matt, Traci)
One is a project on redshirt (Sacar)

I can live with that.

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2016, 05:30:26 PM »
Wojo has brought in seven freshman since he got here.

Four of them have been very good.  (Henry, Haanif, Sam and Markus)
Two of them have been contributors  (Matt, Traci)
One is a project on redshirt (Sacar)

I can live with that.

It'll be interesting to see what Bailey is like when/if he comes

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2016, 05:33:07 PM »
And today Traci played only 9.

Oh, how 'bout them pups?  ;D

Exactly.
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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2016, 05:42:29 PM »
I was directing it at the claim that Markus is "the best offensive point guard we have had in years."  As of right now he's the 3rd best offensive point guard on the roster. 

Still standing by this statement?

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2016, 06:45:37 PM »
Still standing by this statement?

Yes.  I'm very glad he had a great game.  I look forward to seeing if he can put together a string of great games, a great season, and a great career.

R-E-L-A-X.  Do you still think Brandon Jennings is the best Buck in the last 40 years because he once scored 55 points as a rookie?
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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2016, 07:09:59 PM »
Yes.  I'm very glad he had a great game.  I look forward to seeing if he can put together a string of great games, a great season, and a great career.

R-E-L-A-X.  Do you still think Brandon Jennings is the best Buck in the last 40 years because he once scored 55 points as a rookie?

Still? I never said anything about Brandon Jennings - ever. WTF are you talking about? I said that Markus was a better offensive player than Traci Carter. He is. Just the eye test would show anyone who has watched a little basketball that. My guess is that it does but you're just being stubborn.

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Re: The Young Pups
« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2016, 07:39:55 PM »
Still? I never said anything about Brandon Jennings - ever. WTF are you talking about? I said that Markus was a better offensive player than Traci Carter. He is. Just the eye test would show anyone who has watched a little basketball that. My guess is that it does but you're just being stubborn.

All I'm saying is that 1 or 2 games in a career does not make someone better than any other player.  I am hopeful that Markus will be a stud.  So far he has had some mixed reviews, but it seems like he's figuring it out.  I've seen too much college basketball to look at a player's recruiting ranking or stats against a no name low major school and come to a conclusion that he's the best offensive point guard a program has seen in 10-15 years.

Hence the Brandon Jennings question.  Awesome, the guy was at one point in his life considered to be a sure fire top draft pick, a McDonald's AA (and MVP of that game), a can't miss prospect who came in and, in like his 12th game as a pro or something, scored 55 points.  WOAH!  Best offensive player the Bucks have seen since Kareem!  Err...

He clearly has the highest ceiling.  Today was a great performance.  Let's hope for more to come.
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