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radome

From: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25558775/nba-mock-draft-raptors-steal-marquettes-henry-ellenson

9. Toronto Raptors
Henry Ellenson, PF-C, Marquette: The Raptors could use a power forward prospect to develop, and Ellenson fits well within their offensive scheme. He stretches the floor, has great basketball sense, and would eventually fit with either Jonas Valanciunas post play inside, Bebe Nogueira's length and shot-blocking ability outside, or any of the wings. He's simply a versatile player offensively who struggles a bit defensively, and I'd think the Raptors have enough around him to make it work.

wadesworld

Quote from: radome on April 18, 2016, 02:36:54 PM
From: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25558775/nba-mock-draft-raptors-steal-marquettes-henry-ellenson

9. Toronto Raptors
Henry Ellenson, PF-C, Marquette: The Raptors could use a power forward prospect to develop, and Ellenson fits well within their offensive scheme. He stretches the floor, has great basketball sense, and would eventually fit with either Jonas Valanciunas post play inside, Bebe Nogueira's length and shot-blocking ability outside, or any of the wings. He's simply a versatile player offensively who struggles a bit defensively, and I'd think the Raptors have enough around him to make it work.

This is the D League mock draft, correct?

brewcity77


wadesworld


RubyWiscy

Big East with two top 10 draft picks. Would be a nice brag for the conference.

Jay Bee

Rises into the Top 10? What is this, an article from 2014??
The portal is NOT closed.

VegasWarrior77

So Diamond Stone might fall into the second round?  It's a guard/shooter's league!

18. DIAMOND STONE: C, MARYLAND, 6-11, 255, 19 YEARS OLD
   
Scouting Profile: Just a few years ago, it would seem likely that Diamond Stone would be a top-10 pick in this draft. He's a big-bodied center with a long wingspan and terrific touch around the rim who can create his own offense from the block. That's not the way the NBA is going though, and his game has some major holes in the way it fits in the current iteration of the league. The two biggest problems are that he can't defend on the perimeter and he can't rebound inside. Plus, his conditioning needs to improve moving forward. In the modern NBA, I wouldn't pick Stone in the first round because of these weaknesses. But some team likely will and try to develop him inside as a weapon.

Hiring Agent? Yes
Draft range: No. 12 to No. 40
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

Mane37

Did Diamond officially hire an agent/declare for this draft?

We R Final Four

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 18, 2016, 06:23:43 PM
Rises into the Top 10? What is this, an article from 2014??
Ha--thinking the same thing.....rises? I admit I don't follow this that closely, but HE has been 5-14 all year in the projections that I have seen......glad he's moved into the top ten!!! Finally!

brandx

Quote from: radome on April 18, 2016, 02:36:54 PM
From: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25558775/nba-mock-draft-raptors-steal-marquettes-henry-ellenson

9. Toronto Raptors
Henry Ellenson, PF-C, Marquette: The Raptors could use a power forward prospect to develop, and Ellenson fits well within their offensive scheme. He stretches the floor, has great basketball sense, and would eventually fit with either Jonas Valanciunas post play inside, Bebe Nogueira's length and shot-blocking ability outside, or any of the wings. He's simply a versatile player offensively who struggles a bit defensively, and I'd think the Raptors have enough around him to make it work.


Projected top 10 since day 1.

CountryRoads

Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 18, 2016, 06:31:10 PM
So Diamond Stone might fall into the second round?  It's a guard/shooter's league!

18. DIAMOND STONE: C, MARYLAND, 6-11, 255, 19 YEARS OLD
   
Scouting Profile: Just a few years ago, it would seem likely that Diamond Stone would be a top-10 pick in this draft. He's a big-bodied center with a long wingspan and terrific touch around the rim who can create his own offense from the block. That's not the way the NBA is going though, and his game has some major holes in the way it fits in the current iteration of the league. The two biggest problems are that he can't defend on the perimeter and he can't rebound inside. Plus, his conditioning needs to improve moving forward. In the modern NBA, I wouldn't pick Stone in the first round because of these weaknesses. But some team likely will and try to develop him inside as a weapon.

Hiring Agent? Yes
Draft range: No. 12 to No. 40

Being a bit of a punk doesn't help his case either. Big stretch to take him in round 1 imo. Too much baggage and not enough upside.

GGGG

A punk?  Outside of the UW push what is there to indicate that?

brandx

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 18, 2016, 07:57:14 PM
A punk?  Outside of the UW push what is there to indicate that?

Beat me to it.

And, if Stone measure 6'11" - which I don't think will happen - I predict he goes higher than #18.


Herman Cain

Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 18, 2016, 06:31:10 PM
So Diamond Stone might fall into the second round?  It's a guard/shooter's league!

18. DIAMOND STONE: C, MARYLAND, 6-11, 255, 19 YEARS OLD
   
Scouting Profile: Just a few years ago, it would seem likely that Diamond Stone would be a top-10 pick in this draft. He's a big-bodied center with a long wingspan and terrific touch around the rim who can create his own offense from the block. That's not the way the NBA is going though, and his game has some major holes in the way it fits in the current iteration of the league. The two biggest problems are that he can't defend on the perimeter and he can't rebound inside. Plus, his conditioning needs to improve moving forward. In the modern NBA, I wouldn't pick Stone in the first round because of these weaknesses. But some team likely will and try to develop him inside as a weapon.

Hiring Agent? Yes
Draft range: No. 12 to No. 40

I take the approach of looking at the most conservative poll on Henry and he is 19th in this one, pretty much where he has been all year. Interesting to note that Stone is now 27th in this one, so they have him almost out of the first round.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft

I am hoping that Henry goes number 5 to the TimberWolves. I think that would be an excellent situation. Close to home in familiar surroundings makes the transition to NBA life a little bit easier.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

wadesworld

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 18, 2016, 08:02:19 PM
I take the approach of looking at the most conservative poll on Henry and he is 19th in this one, pretty much where he has been all year. Interesting to note that Stone is now 27th in this one, so they have him almost out of the first round.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft

I am hoping that Henry goes number 5 to the TimberWolves. I think that would be an excellent situation. Close to home in familiar surroundings makes the transition to NBA life a little bit easier.

So using your logic (look at the worst draft position in mocks for each player) there will be no #1 overall pick this year.

Herman Cain

Quote from: wadesworld on April 18, 2016, 08:07:16 PM
So using your logic (look at the worst draft position in mocks for each player) there will be no #1 overall pick this year.
It is a just a conservative approach that I like to take. I think Henry will likely go higher and I want him to go higher, but I like to look at the worst case scenario. 

I think for Stone the trend is going the wrong way. Players like Deyonta Davis are much more attractive prospects. 

Another example Simmons is now rated 2 in Draft Express. Still likely he goes one, but not a slam dunk as ESPN has been touting.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

The Lens

Henry was the consensus 9th pick in the draft before he verbaled to MU.

CBS asserting he is rising is just false headlines.

And Marq / NY, you're not taking the conservative approach you're just citing the least respected site. 
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History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

#UnleashSean

Quote from: wadesworld on April 18, 2016, 08:07:16 PM
So using your logic (look at the worst draft position in mocks for each player) there will be no #1 overall pick this year.

He's been against Henry all year. Remember in November he stated that in no way would henry be a one and done.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 18, 2016, 08:15:16 PM
It is a just a conservative approach that I like to take. I think Henry will likely go higher and I want him to go higher, but I like to look at the worst case scenario. 

I think for Stone the trend is going the wrong way. Players like Deyonta Davis are much more attractive prospects. 

Another example Simmons is now rated 2 in Draft Express. Still likely he goes one, but not a slam dunk as ESPN has been touting.

What happens to the conservative approach when Kostas is up for discussion?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on April 19, 2016, 07:20:13 AM
What happens to the conservative approach when Kostas is up for discussion?
Well the conservative approach there would be to say he is raw and a project, which I pretty much accept as the downside. However, his Size and Length and athleticism can't be taught.  I still think he has a high ceiling that is worth pursuing.  Therefore I put him as a Low risk , High Return prospect.  If You look at the Johnnies message boards they are pretty excited about him, but then again they have 3 open spots.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Jay Bee

CBS breaking News, April 2016: Hi
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 19, 2016, 07:59:36 AM
Well the conservative approach there would be to say he is raw and a project, which I pretty much accept as the downside. However, his Size and Length and athleticism can't be taught.  I still think he has a high ceiling that is worth pursuing.  Therefore I put him as a Low risk , High Return prospect.  If You look at the Johnnies message boards they are pretty excited about him, but then again they have 3 open spots.

If I were a St. John's fan, I'd be excited about the sun rising.

The portal is NOT closed.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 19, 2016, 08:23:15 AM
CBS breaking News, April 2016: Hi
If I were a St. John's fan, I'd be excited about the sun rising.
I think the Johnnies are going to surprise a few people this year. They are a fun team to watch.

Here are some of the prospects they are watching.

http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2016/4/14/11430374/nike-eybl-preview-who-is-st-johns-tracking
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 19, 2016, 08:51:24 AM
I think the Johnnies are going to surprise a few people this year. They are a fun team to watch.

Here are some of the prospects they are watching.

http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2016/4/14/11430374/nike-eybl-preview-who-is-st-johns-tracking

Interesting use of the word "fun". The Fighting St. Jean's run zero sets, toss the ball every which way out of the gym, and were nearly the worst shooting team in the entire nation.

GGGG

They are interested in Kostas, therefore they are declared to be "fun."

Hope this helps.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 19, 2016, 09:10:06 AM
Interesting use of the word "fun". The Fighting St. Jean's run zero sets, toss the ball every which way out of the gym, and were nearly the worst shooting team in the entire nation.
It is fun in the sense when a team that lousy can get its act together and beat a final four team like they did this year with Syracuse. Kind of like the old New York Mets.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

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