How Bad Is This For Georgetown?

[ChicosBailBonds]

lucky us

Ignore option works great

[Coleman]

Ignore option works great

The problem is, half of the discussion on this board revolves around yours and Heisy's provocations. I'd be completely lost with you two on ignore.

[MU82]

I don't know if he gambled as a player but his performance on the field was so good in so many ways for so long. As a player, if Mike Piazza and Ryne Sandberg are in the Hall then Pete Rose should get a VIP Pass.

Pete Rose is one of the top ten players of all time. He contributed far more to the game than Giamatti or Vincent ever did. If there is no evidence he gambled as a player then get him in the Hall.

As Chicos said, I believe in the last few months there has been evidence presented that he gambled on baseball when he was an active player. Quite disgraceful. He will never be in the Hall, nor should he.

[GooooMarquette]

The problem is, half of the discussion on this board revolves around yours and Heisy's provocations. I'd be completely lost with you two on ignore.

Trying to follow this board with Chico and Heisy on ignore would be like trying to read a book without the consonants.

[ChicosBailBonds]

The problem is, half of the discussion on this board revolves around yours and Heisy's provocations. I'd be completely lost with you two on ignore.

I think you're lost all by yourself.   

[Coleman]

I was just curious. Turns out I was completely right.

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[tower912]

Now I am feeling self conscious.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

I was just curious. Turns out I was completely right.

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That's awesome...didn't  know you could search for topic starters.  Someone has to lead and get folks chatting...we all have our crosses to bear.

[Lennys Tap]

That's awesome...didn't  know you could search for topic starters.  Someone has to lead and get folks chatting...we all have our crosses to bear.

Thanks for your leadership. We're all deeply in your debt. Out of curiosity, how heavy is that cross? It needn't be tall, but I'm sure it weighs a ton - it has to support such an enormous horse's backside.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Coleman, just think, you only get me for small timely doses...I'm in and out.

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[Lennys Tap]

Coleman, just think, you only get me for small timely doses...I'm in and out.

Most time spent on MUScoop

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I'm on the internet most of the day for work - Scoop is almost always "open" but it's usually in the background.

[keefe]

That 4ever is a rabble rouser...

[keefe]

Thanks for your leadership. We're all deeply in your debt. Out of curiosity, how heavy is that cross? It needn't be tall, but I'm sure it weighs a ton - it has to support such an enormous horse's backside.

I love Scoop. God help me I do love it so...

[ChicosBailBonds]

I love Scoop. God help me I do love it so...

Lenny's daughter I met a few times when she was a student and I was in athletics.  Charming gal, KH, very nice, part of Student Athletic Club that we created.  Really great.  Goes to show you can't pick your parents. 

[GGGG]

I'm on the internet most of the day for work - Scoop is almost always "open" but it's usually in the background.

Ditto.  Come here when I am writing.  Believe it or not, this nonsense helps me gather my thoughts.

[GooooMarquette]

I was just curious. Turns out I was completely right.

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Betting Heisy's recent surge puts him in the lead soon.

[mu03eng]

The topic starts graphed over time since joining Scoop would be compelling. Have there been different era's of Scoop in which certain posters seem to hold sway? Also the density of the topics started would be interesting as well i.e. you may start a lot of threads but if nobody shows up what does it matter?

[Pakuni]

I'm on the internet most of the day for work - Scoop is almost always "open" but it's usually in the background.

Same here.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I believe the moderators said here a few years ago that if you have it in the background, after a certain amount of time of "inactivity", the clock stops running.  I'll have to find the post, but that statement could be wrong....or I could be remembering it wrong.

Either way, it is good to know the commitment here to Scoop!  Well done, all.

[Coleman]

That's awesome...didn't  know you could search for topic starters.  Someone has to lead and get folks chatting...we all have our crosses to bear.

Even Christ had Simon help carry his cross. Feel free to take a breather.

[Tugg Speedman]

Descendants of slaves sold to benefit Georgetown call for a $1 billion foundation for reconciliation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/09/08/descendants-of-slaves-sold-by-georgetown-call-for-a-1-billion-foundation-for-reconciliation/?ICID=ref_fark&utm_content=link&utm_medium=website&utm_source=fark#comments


A group of descendants of slaves sold by Jesuits in the 19th century to benefit Georgetown University called on both the university and Maryland Jesuits to do more to promote reconciliation after the horrors of slavery, asking to create a charitable foundation.

The descendants proposed a $1 billion foundation and announced that they had raised $115,000 in seed money, an amount equivalent to the 1838 sales price for the 272 people sold to pay off a debt. That amount is equivalent to about $3 million in today’s dollars.

Last week, Georgetown’s president announced that it would apologize for the university’s role in the slave trade, give an admissions preference to descendants of the 272 slaves, name two buildings in honor of those enslaved people and create a memorial. Georgetown was responding to a report from a group of faculty members, staff, students and alumni that examined the university’s historical ties to slavery.

[rocket surgeon]

Descendants of slaves sold to benefit Georgetown call for a $1 billion foundation for reconciliation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/09/08/descendants-of-slaves-sold-by-georgetown-call-for-a-1-billion-foundation-for-reconciliation/?ICID=ref_fark&utm_content=link&utm_medium=website&utm_source=fark#comments


A group of descendants of slaves sold by Jesuits in the 19th century to benefit Georgetown University called on both the university and Maryland Jesuits to do more to promote reconciliation after the horrors of slavery, asking to create a charitable foundation.

The descendants proposed a $1 billion foundation and announced that they had raised $115,000 in seed money, an amount equivalent to the 1838 sales price for the 272 people sold to pay off a debt. That amount is equivalent to about $3 million in today’s dollars.

Last week, Georgetown’s president announced that it would apologize for the university’s role in the slave trade, give an admissions preference to descendants of the 272 slaves, name two buildings in honor of those enslaved people and create a memorial. Georgetown was responding to a report from a group of faculty members, staff, students and alumni that examined the university’s historical ties to slavery.

There is so much about slavery that people either do not understand or choose to ignore. 
 First of all, most of the original slaves came from the Caribbean, not Africa.  Secondly, initially, it was an accepted practice which rightly so over time became a wrong.  By the mid 1800's it began to be abolished; again, rightly so

All these hand wringers thinking they are showing a "kind heart" by throwing money at it today are thinking they can pay away their guilt. Tell me, how much money is enough to say, o.k. We're good here now, right?  It'll never happen. There's a sucker born every minute.  There are many people who don't even know what slavery is or was trying to capitalize on it yet today because, well, money solves everything, Eyn'a?  Just ask Sean's buddy Hugo and family

[jsglow]

With the risk of swerving off political, the underlying objective of all of these initiatives, whether it be the global warming crowd, the reparations crowd, and numerous others is simply to redistribute wealth from one group to another.  The $1.0 billion foundation is plain evidence of that.  Why not $10 billion?  Why not $100 billion? And who decides?  Of course this is unlike actual civil litigation where actual damages, the rules of evidence and the rule of law are supposed to be the determining factor as arbitrated by a theoretically impartial judge or jury. (I often worry about the latter and it's exactly why ALL bank docs compel the borrower to waive a jury right.) 

But how do we determine how much 'I' damaged the environment last week and who exactly do I pay?  Similarly, is 'my' application to GTown denied because a less qualified 10th generation decedent of slaves is reserved an automatic space?  Or is my tuition to said institution bumped up $5,000 so I can pay for the sins of 200 years ago?  Were they my sins?  Best I can figure it my grandfather had a grade school education and worked at Milwaukee Drop Forge.  And I know he didn't own any slaves.     

[GGGG]

With the risk of swerving off political, the underlying objective of all of these initiatives, whether it be the global warming crowd, the reparations crowd, and numerous others is simply to redistribute wealth from one group to another.  The $1.0 billion foundation is plain evidence of that.  Why not $10 billion?  Why not $100 billion? And who decides?  Of course this is unlike actual civil litigation where actual damages, the rules of evidence and the rule of law are supposed to be the determining factor as arbitrated by a theoretically impartial judge or jury. (I often worry about the latter and it's exactly why ALL bank docs compel the borrower to waive a jury right.) 

Did you read the article?  It would be a charity accepting donations from individuals and organizations.  There aren't proposing any law that I am aware of that would force anyone to contribute and isn't calling for tax money to be used for reparations or anything like that.

But how do we determine how much 'I' damaged the environment last week and who exactly do I pay?  Similarly, is 'my' application to GTown denied because a less qualified 10th generation decedent of slaves is reserved an automatic space?  Or is my tuition to said institution bumped up $5,000 so I can pay for the sins of 200 years ago?  Were they my sins?  Best I can figure it my grandfather had a grade school education and worked at Milwaukee Drop Forge.  And I know he didn't own any slaves.     

Yes.  Someone should create a foundation for the oppressed white man.

[Tugg Speedman]

Did you read the article?  It would be a charity accepting donations from individuals and organizations.  There aren't proposing any law that I am aware of that would force anyone to contribute and isn't calling for tax money to be used for reparations or anything like that.

From the article

He said the specifics of the foundation’s goals should come in partnership with the university and the Jesuits. Another lead organizer, Richard Cellini, said they hope the $1 billion that it their goal would be raised from 10 to 15 institutions that benefited from long ties to slavery, and that ideally the money would be jointly managed and directed by Georgetown, the Jesuits and descendants.

It's a shakedown operation with Georgetown's endowment as the primary target.