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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2016, 09:40:26 PM
The worst 3 point shooting team in the ACC was playing in the National Championship game a week ago with all their non-traditional athletes.

They shouldn't have even been in the tournament.  Once in, crap shoot.  Their defensive zone is what gets them far, because teams aren't used to it. 

mu03eng

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on April 11, 2016, 10:11:00 AM
Yeah really hope that's not true. Jajuan seems poised to have the senior year Vander never gave us.

Last I heard this was off the table, but things can change I suppose
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

GooooMarquette

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 11, 2016, 10:20:28 AM
They shouldn't have even been in the tournament.  Once in, crap shoot.  Their defensive zone is what gets them far, because teams aren't used to it.

wadesworld was talking about UNC, not Cuse.

Pakuni

Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 10, 2016, 08:05:46 PM
Mbao. ;)

Definitely not a traditional.
Also not an athlete.
Just a tall person.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Freeport Warrior on April 10, 2016, 02:54:35 PM
Totally agree, but it's not like he is keeping his "exploration of options" a big secret.

Freeport - what are the options that JJJ is currently exploring?

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: mu03eng on April 11, 2016, 10:21:06 AM
Last I heard this was off the table, but things can change I suppose

Is JuJuan somehow in a position to graduate after 3 years of college? Short of that, a transfer to sit out a year doesn't make a ton of sense - especially for a dude gaining so much momentum. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

mu03eng

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 11, 2016, 10:42:06 AM
Is JuJuan somehow in a position to graduate after 3 years of college? Short of that, a transfer to sit out a year doesn't make a ton of sense - especially for a dude gaining so much momentum.

That was the original thought, but last I was told he was not able to graduate at the end of this year
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: mu03eng on April 11, 2016, 10:43:16 AM
That was the original thought, but last I was told he was not able to graduate at the end of this year

Meaning December 2016?
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

keefe

Quote from: RKMU123 on April 11, 2016, 08:04:53 AM
How is his first name pronounced? Kay-tin? Cat-In? Kuh-teen?

It is pronounced "Derrick Wilson"


Death on call

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Heisenberg on April 10, 2016, 10:50:57 AM
This is just like BD's predictions about Lee and Miller last year ... second year in a row that BD's pontification about transfers are way off.

Sorry but that is his track record.

I'm late to the party here - and I have pages of this thread I haven't had the chance to read yet - but please, just let me say that you should leave it to others to tape a "kick me" sign on your back and not do it yourself.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 10, 2016, 02:13:03 PM
Or put another way.. they are fairly comparable... would think Katin may be a little more interested in the OR% for the scoring opp.

... Rowsey's OR% & DR% as a FR & Soph: 1.2% & 9.7% FR; 1.5% & 7.2% So.

Katin's 3 seasons.. from oldest to most recent: 1.1% & 6.1%; 2.0% & 7.3%; 2.7% & 8.1%.. improving!

In 2015-16.. for the full season, compared to his 78 PAC-12 peers who played at least 40% of their team's minutes... Katin's DR% of 8.1% put him at #72. Of the 7 behind him, 4 were 6'1" or shorter.. tallest was 6'4".

6-foot true frosh PG Traci Carter.. 9.2% DR%.

Obviously, he's protecting the fingers on his shooting hand from getting jammed.

With rebounding being such an obvious flaw, I'd love to get into Wojo's mind regarding how he's thinking about it.  Has he seen something on tape he thinks he can change? 
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: bilsu on April 10, 2016, 04:44:17 PM
The trouble with those statistics is that Cohen was on an average rebounding team. I am also assuming most of his rebounds were in non-conference games. I am not sure what other rebounders Reinhardt was surrounded with. Pointing out that Rowsey had a better rebounding average playing in a low mid-major conference vs. Reinhardt who played in the Pac 12 is also a somewhat suspect statistic.

On the other hand, comparing the rebounding of a 5'10" guard to a 6'6" guard was unfair to Rowsey.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

mu03eng

"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

Freeport Warrior

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 11, 2016, 10:41:57 AM
Freeport - what are the options that JJJ is currently exploring?
Many here know that he's sick of not making the tourney and may be looking at options to make that happen (if he doesn't think it will happen here).          Have no idea of timetable, or if this process is already complete. So many moving pieces to the puzzle change daily with players, coaches moving. I think JJJ will be our best player next year, but I don't know if we are even close to a good team.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 10, 2016, 07:44:26 AM
Atleast he didn't say student section. That would be a rude awakening

well actually that depends on how to interpret this:

I know basketball culture is huge and the fan base for Marquette is amazing, the student section.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 11, 2016, 10:42:06 AM
Is JuJuan somehow in a position to graduate after 3 years of college? Short of that, a transfer to sit out a year doesn't make a ton of sense - especially for a dude gaining so much momentum.

That was the rumor. From what I have been told by people with direct knowledge of the situation, that is not true. JJJ may transfer, but it won't be as a graduate of this university. If he does transfer, he is likely to find his options limited. Not many high major contenders want to spend two years of a scholarship for one year of a player.

If JJJ leaves, I will be sad. He seems to be poised for a massive senior year. I would have been more sad if we didn't end up with Katin Reinhardt. He's not the same kind of player as JJJ, but he can make up a lot of the production that we would lose. Lets just keep them both  ;D
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

#216
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on April 11, 2016, 12:23:26 PM
That was the rumor. From what I have been told by people with direct knowledge of the situation, that is not true. JJJ may transfer, but it won't be as a graduate of this university. If he does transfer, he is likely to find his options limited. Not many high major contenders want to spend two years of a scholarship for one year of a player.

If JJJ leaves, I will be sad. He seems to be poised for a massive senior year. I would have been more sad if we didn't end up with Katin Reinhardt. He's not the same kind of player as JJJ, but he can make up a lot of the production that we would lose. Lets just keep them both  ;D

Pretty much exactly how I feel.  I like the addition of Rienhardt, assuming we don't lose one of our key backcourt pieces because of it / it was a reaction to losing one of said key backcourt pieces.  Key backcourt pieces being Cheatham, JJJ, Duane and to a lesser extent Carter. Rowsey IMO will be a key piece, but obviously not going anywhere.  We need JJJ to stay around - he ain't making the tourney red shirting somewhere next year.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Freeport Warrior on April 11, 2016, 12:07:14 PM
Many here know that he's sick of not making the tourney and may be looking at options to make that happen (if he doesn't think it will happen here).          Have no idea of timetable, or if this process is already complete. So many moving pieces to the puzzle change daily with players, coaches moving. I think JJJ will be our best player next year, but I don't know if we are even close to a good team.

Appreciate the thoughts Freeport. Hopefully getting an established player like Reinhardt would help ease some of his concerns. I agree that JJJ would be our best player next year. Especially given the makeup of the roster. I'd imagine our strategy would involve being very aggressive and high tempo, things that fit JJJ's game perfectly.

I think we have a very good team with a very obvious flaw lined up for next season. I think the talent and experience is enough to make the NCAA tournament. The question will be is how can Wojo address the rebounding issue to keep it from keeping us out of the postseason.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

#218
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on April 11, 2016, 12:29:09 PM
Appreciate the thoughts Freeport. Hopefully getting an established player like Reinhardt would help ease some of his concerns. I agree that JJJ would be our best player next year. Especially given the makeup of the roster. I'd imagine our strategy would involve being very aggressive and high tempo, things that fit JJJ's game perfectly.

I think we have a very good team with a very obvious flaw lined up for next season. I think the talent and experience is enough to make the NCAA tournament. The question will be is how can Wojo address the rebounding issue to keep it from keeping us out of the postseason.

Go grab a rebounding big off the grad transfer market and tell Wally his brother needs to pay his way or its best he graduate and play elsewhere.  Harsh? Yah - but fu**ina, I wanna win.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 11, 2016, 12:34:32 PM
Go grab a rebounding big off the grad transfer market and tell Wally his brother needs to pay his way.  Harsh? Yah - but fu**ina, I wanna win.

Certainly a way to do it. I think there our ways to address it with the current roster. It will never be a strength. But I think we can be decent enough that it doesn't hold us back.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Herman Cain

Quote from: Howard's Eagle on April 11, 2016, 12:23:26 PM
That was the rumor. From what I have been told by people with direct knowledge of the situation, that is not true. JJJ may transfer, but it won't be as a graduate of this university. If he does transfer, he is likely to find his options limited. Not many high major contenders want to spend two years of a scholarship for one year of a player.

If JJJ leaves, I will be sad. He seems to be poised for a massive senior year. I would have been more sad if we didn't end up with Katin Reinhardt. He's not the same kind of player as JJJ, but he can make up a lot of the production that we would lose. Lets just keep them both  ;D
JJJ goes through this every year, then his mother intercedes and tells him to stay at MU.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 11, 2016, 10:22:53 AM
wadesworld was talking about UNC, not Cuse.

UNC was 13th out of 15, not last in 3 point shooting


http://www.theacc.com/page/team-stats-m-baskbl-stat-crew


My bad on Syracuse


JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Howard's Eagle on April 11, 2016, 12:48:16 PM
Certainly a way to do it. I think there our ways to address it with the current roster. It will never be a strength. But I think we can be decent enough that it doesn't hold us back.

Sure - but why limit yourself like that for a guy that at best will be 10th or 11th in the rotation and is nothing more than an energy guy that will graduate at the end of the year.  Trading him for a 6-8 or 6-9 rebounding machine makes much more sense.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 11, 2016, 12:34:32 PM
Go grab a rebounding big off the grad transfer market and tell Wally his brother needs to pay his way or its best he graduate and play elsewhere.  Harsh? Yah - but fu**ina, I wanna win.

Sure, let's alienate the biggest name to play basketball at Marquette in decades.... for you.  Who needs NBA players who have good things to say about your school when you're recruiting?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

wadesworld

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 11, 2016, 01:31:47 PM
UNC was 13th out of 15, not last in 3 point shooting


http://www.theacc.com/page/team-stats-m-baskbl-stat-crew


My bad on Syracuse

They were last place in conference play in 3 point shooting % at 29.1%.  And they were playing in the National Title.

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