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bilsu

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2016, 11:19:46 PM
Carter, Rowsey, Howard, Cheatam, Duane, JJJ, Reinhardt. That's an awful lot of guards to split a finite number of minutes. Someone's not going to be happy, but I like the addition anyway.
We mare basically going to be playing 4 guards. Even Wally and Hauser can be considered guards.

Tugg Speedman

Wally is using his last year of track eligibility right now.

He's going to move on and become a professional track athlete.  He will also sign with an agent ... in June after the NCAA championships.

mujivitz06

It's a guards and shooters game now.  Basketball is changing. A lot of you seem to not understand that. Yes we need rebounders, but even last year we had a bad rebounding team, especially offensively. Can only get better.

Shooters shooters shooters. You need shooters.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: mujivitz06 on April 10, 2016, 12:19:49 AM
It's a guards and shooters game now.  Basketball is changing. A lot of you seem to not understand that. Yes we need rebounders, but even last year we had a bad rebounding team, especially offensively. Can only get better.

Shooters shooters shooters. You need shooters.

If you're shooting threes, the rebounds are long, a 7 footer is not the right guy for that kind of of game.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Welcome Katin! We are looking forward to seeing what you can accomplish as a Warrior.

For all those worried about rebounding. Remember, we made the tournament as a six seed in 2010 with a team much smaller than this. Work needs to be put in this offseason, but I'm confident that Wojo and crew can develop a strategy and turn Sandy, Katin, Sacar, etc into quality rebounders.

No inside info, but my gut tells me that someone transfers. Wally seems the most likely candidate but it never seems to be the most likely candidate. That opens up space for a Kalif Young or a Dylan Oste...ski. Young would be the preference because he could help us immediately. But a 2017 transfer big would help address a glaring need in the 2017-2018 roster.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Tugg Speedman

How about Wally as a grad transfer?  Two years of school at Minnesota and two years of school at MU ... Has to be close to graduating.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Heisenberg on April 10, 2016, 12:45:01 AM
How about Wally as a grad transfer?  Two years of school at Minnesota and two years of school at MU ... Has to be close to graduating.

Wally could be a grad transfer should he so choose.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 09, 2016, 10:42:35 PM
#5 on ESPN grad transfer list as of couple days ago.

#5 for all transfers, not just grad transfers. Per espn, he's the second best grad transfer behind Canyon Barry. Personally, I had Rodney Pryor #1, Reinhardt #2, and Barry #3.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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#UnleashSean

Don't think Wally transfers. He either finishes out with Marquette or he stops playing after track is over.

MU1980

Quote from: #UnleashWally on April 10, 2016, 03:58:19 AM
Don't think Wally transfers. He either finishes out with Marquette or he stops playing after track is over.

Wally has an indoor track season of eligibility left so it is possible he stays at Marquette so he can graduate and focus on track for an entire year.

brewcity77

Quote from: forgetful on April 09, 2016, 11:41:39 PM
Dennis Rodman:  6'7" 215
Katin Reinhardt:   6'6" 215

Like you said it is strategy and heart.  Cohen/Reinhardt have the size and intensity to be able to be great rebounders.  Now it is about strategy and feel.

If Reinhardt was a 13-15 DR% guy, I'd be inclined to agree. But his 8.1 DR% was lowest of all qualifying players on USC last year. That was also his career high. There's plenty to like about the kid, but it would be a major statistical outlier for him to suddenly become even marginally effective on the glass.

rocket surgeon

  remember this team?

    Villanova, led by head coach Jay Wright, spent most of the season competing with Duke and Big East rival Connecticut for possession of the top spot in the college basketball rankings. Utilizing a starting lineup that consisted of four guards (seniors Randy Foye and Allan Ray, junior Mike Nardi, and sophomore Kyle Lowry)

they went 28-5/14-2 and to the elite 8 losing to eventual champ florida

i remember crean just pulling his hair out over this and then trying to emulate them somewhat by playing d. james, l mccneal, and then plugging in mo acker or even david cubillon to form his own guard heavy offense.  one problem however, foye, ray, niardi and lowry were a notch(or three) better than what we had after james and mcsteal

now you add a 6' 6" GUARD who has experience AND can shoot.  this has some interesting ramifications.  how about playing large guard offense?  sandy is 6'5", katin 6'6", haanif 6"5" and fill-in-the-blank guard plus luke with heldt coming off the bench.  then you rotate all the others in/out playing real up tempo for 40 minutes and the other teams will wonder what the hell tornado did they just walk in to EiN'a HEY fellas?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

brewcity77

Foye was an excellent rebounding guard. Marquette would need someone to step up like that. Someone who plays major minutes in the backcourt has to be a factor on the glass.

mu03eng

While roster turnover seems likely with this latest change, even if it doesn't I think this roster will be outstanding. Katin will be a valuable, experienced asset.

I'm as concerned as anyone about rebounding, but we can do a lot schematically to emphasize rebounding without needing a bulky PF. We just need to be competent rebounding as we should be very good shooting
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

naginiF

I made the mistake of reading this thread before reading Matt V's article (good work outta Matt yet again) and even Katin says he wants to be able to defend every position and score both with and without the ball - something about being used in a lot of different ways.  This doesn't sound like a guy who insists like being point.

The other quote that jumped out from Katin was "I'm really excited about the fans out there, too"..........ssshhhhh, he hasn't found Scoop yet.

NotAnAlum

I believe that Wojo has complete confidence in Haani to do whatever he asks him to do.  Next year it would be to defend the #4 and rebound on defense.  His style on offense leads me to believe that he could do it and he appears to have the basketball IQ to be effective in a different role.  The team that is coming into focus will have absolutely no problem scoring particularly shooting from outside.  There are so many shooters that even if a couple guys are cold we'll always be able to put multiple shooters on the floor.
To me the lesson of Villanova is that an undersized team can beat bigger teams with ball pressure.  That is what these guys will have to do.  I'd also like to see them run some tight zones to keep Fisher from having to come out on screens.  He picks up fouls out there and doesn't recover well.  Can't afford that when Heidt is basically the only replacement at the 5.  Expect to play a lot of games in the +80 range.  Hopefully we can come up with a formula that will be good enough to get us to the tournament.  Signing Katin tells me Wojo really is focused making it next year.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: naginiF on April 10, 2016, 07:38:01 AM
The other quote that jumped out from Katin was "I'm really excited about the fans out there, too"..........ssshhhhh, he hasn't found Scoop yet.

Atleast he didn't say student section. That would be a rude awakening

ecompt

Quote from: WarriorFan on April 09, 2016, 09:42:23 PM
made 60 3's last year and has always shot 3's well.  (d. Wilson had 54 to lead MU)
Seems like more of a 2/3 than a 4.  1.1 steals per game as well.
Nice addition, assuming somebody's gone.


Maybe Sandy gets "buzz cut"?

If Sandy leaves I suspect it will be because he realizes he cannot play at this level.

Skatastrophy

What an excellent addition. Maybe we'll finally be able to start running as a team like Wojo said when he was hired.

We could sub in and out like hockey lines next year!

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: NotAnAlum on April 10, 2016, 07:39:22 AM
To me the lesson of Villanova is that an undersized team can beat bigger teams with ball pressure. 

We have a lot of work to do getting stronger and much better defending the perimeter.  Hope Todd is being unleashed on our guys. 

That being said I applaud the fact we will have a group of experienced guards. 

WarriorPride68

Quote from: ecompt on April 10, 2016, 07:50:44 AM
If Sandy leaves I suspect it will be because he realizes he cannot play at this level.

Was on the roster this morning, perhaps it's a mobile issue but when I clicked on Sandys player profile it was empty. He still shows up on roster though. Is probably nothing, but anyone else have this happen?

rocket surgeon

  "To me the lesson of Villanova is that an undersized team can beat bigger teams with ball pressure. "


  remember our teams with dominic and jerel, wes, lazar, jimmy, a little bit of fulce(when healthy) etc etc

     we were lockdown defense-steals steals and MCsteals.  opposing players were frustrated as hell.  i remember the commentators just raving about our aggressiveness and tenacity

well check out the heights back then-5'11", 6'3", 6'5", 6'6", 6'7", = WINNING!

wojo has a plan-trust the system
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Dr. Blackheart

Respect the process, non è? 

More to come, I suspect.  As of this minute, Wojo will have six scholarship guys on the roster who played major PG minutes in high school or college.  They aren't going to be playing PF all of a sudden. 

Not only that, Luke has one year to go, and MU needs depth on the front line and balance if Wojo is to implement the long term plan he was primarily hired for.  Even now, Hauser is a perimeter player primarily, and Matt is a ways off as most bigs take time to develop.  Leaving the foul prone Luke out on an island doesn't seem like a plan to bank on.

Let's see what breaks with the banquet approaching.  Wojo likes controlling the message.

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chapman

It's a body and one decent and experienced.  For a team that has regularly self-imposed scholarship penalties on itself for nothing more than the inability to recruit and retain an entire roster, this is certainly a positive.  Good chance Wally moves on, in which case there aren't two spots to fill in a short timeframe.

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