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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Lens on April 02, 2016, 05:26:07 PM
Yeah, 100% ESPN did it.  Which is ridiculous bc Chad is pretty accurate.  And pretty connected.

Yeah, he's pretty good.  Draft Express I like better and performed a little better, at least last year.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/26/grading-the-mock-2015-nba-drafts/

They have HE at 9th, but he's been dropping the last month or so.  Ford still has him a lot higher.  We shall see.

Herman Cain

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2016, 06:45:20 PM
Yeah, he's pretty good.  Draft Express I like better and performed a little better, at least last year.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/26/grading-the-mock-2015-nba-drafts/

They have HE at 9th, but he's been dropping the last month or so.  Ford still has him a lot higher.  We shall see.
I take the conservative approach and look at the mock draft that has consistently had Henry Lowest.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft
Today he is 18th . He was as low as 22-24 and recently trended to as high as 15.

My sources in the athletic department have consistently said if Henry is in the bottom of the first round he is staying, and if he is in the top 10 he is going.  Obviously being in the middle range makes the decision much harder.

I think the best for all concerned would be for him to go to combine and not hire an agent.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 02, 2016, 08:32:46 PM
I take the conservative approach and look at the mock draft that has consistently had Henry Lowest.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft
Today he is 18th . He was as low as 22-24 and recently trended to as high as 15.

My sources in the athletic department have consistently said if Henry is in the bottom of the first round he is staying, and if he is in the top 10 he is going.  Obviously being in the middle range makes the decision much harder.

I think the best for all concerned would be for him to go to combine and not hire an agent.

You were the guy who said HE would spend four years at Marquette, weren't you? (I apologize in advance if I'm getting you confused with somebody else; unlike some here, I don't keep boxscores that record every single comment.)
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rocky_warrior

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 02, 2016, 08:32:46 PM
I take the conservative approach and look at the mock draft that has consistently had Henry Lowest.

Love the approach.  Only consult the source that has the best chance of proving you "right".  hah.

The Lens

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2016, 12:12:53 AM
Love the approach.  Only consult the source that has the best chance of proving you "right".  hah.

Not to mention the least respected site.
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History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

bamamarquettefan

I remember Sullinger staying at OSU in a similar situation and even little back issues his sophomore year cost him millions and millions.

You really can't take a chance - it might be your only year with guaranteed lottery money.
The www.valueaddsports.com analysis of basketball, football and baseball players are intended to neither be too hot or too cold - hundreds immerse themselves in studies of stats not of interest to broader fan bases (too hot), while others still insist on pure observation (too cold).

GGGG

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 02, 2016, 08:32:46 PM
I take the conservative approach and look at the mock draft that has consistently had Henry Lowest.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft
Today he is 18th . He was as low as 22-24 and recently trended to as high as 15.

My sources in the athletic department have consistently said if Henry is in the bottom of the first round he is staying, and if he is in the top 10 he is going.  Obviously being in the middle range makes the decision much harder.

I think the best for all concerned would be for him to go to combine and not hire an agent.


So you are giving the advice to Henry that he should not hire an agent, and go to the combine based on the mock draft of a less reputable site?  Don't you think he has access to much better information than that?

He will hire an agent.  He won't go to the combine.  He will be drafted higher than NBADraft.net projects.

warriorfan 14

With the fact that we didn't even make a postseason tournament this year, one has to wonder what was the point of recruiting a one and done. Seems kind of a waste that we recruit our first burger boy in how long and can't even make the tournament. Would be nice to get a guy like Buddy Heild or Niang in our program...four year players who are very good and winners

warriorfan 14

Henry will get paid big time for sure, and I can't blame him for leaving. However, I am pretty confident in saying he is no where near ready to contribute. He won't be able to guard anybody, isn't super athletic, and doesn't have an outside shot. Will likely sit on the bench for a couple years, and it won't take long for fans to label him a bust

Aircraftcarrier

Yes. Lets not recruit McDonalds All Americans that are in Wisconsin. Stupid post. Get a clue.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Are we really now complaining about taking HE and reverse analyzing why the NBA scouts are wrong?  Come on, he just had the best MU freshman year in my lifetime and may be on the precipice of getting picked in the lottery. Maybe Cal is right, all the one and dones should go to KY where they are appreciated.

Just enjoy it. 

Galway Eagle

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2016, 05:18:27 PM
You've stumped me......Dwyane Wade, HE (likely) and ?

That's my bad I meant top 10 picks but the beers I had registered it as lottery even though the lottery wasn't around yet. So it'd be Wade and Lee along with Henry.
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wadesworld

Quote from: warriorfan 14 on April 03, 2016, 08:47:45 AM
With the fact that we didn't even make a postseason tournament this year, one has to wonder what was the point of recruiting a one and done. Seems kind of a waste that we recruit our first burger boy in how long and can't even make the tournament. Would be nice to get a guy like Buddy Heild or Niang in our program...four year players who are very good and winners

Quote from: warriorfan 14 on April 03, 2016, 08:50:07 AM
Henry will get paid big time for sure, and I can't blame him for leaving. However, I am pretty confident in saying he is no where near ready to contribute. He won't be able to guard anybody, isn't super athletic, and doesn't have an outside shot. Will likely sit on the bench for a couple years, and it won't take long for fans to label him a bust

I'm guessing you're one of the many who thought Hank would be good for 6 PPG and 3 RPG this season.

cheebs09

I think Henry is a nice recruiting tool for Wojo. I thought Henry would do well, but he exceeded my expectations. He was fun to watch. I think this at least gets our foot in the door with future One and dones and much more credibility. With a more experienced team in the future we will hopefully also be advertising trips to the tournament too.

GGGG

Quote from: cheebs09 on April 03, 2016, 09:41:58 AM
I think Henry is a nice recruiting tool for Wojo. I thought Henry would do well, but he exceeded my expectations. He was fun to watch. I think this at least gets our foot in the door with future One and dones and much more credibility. With a more experienced team in the future we will hopefully also be advertising trips to the tournament too.


If you think this is going to cause more one and dones to look at MU, then I think you might be disappointed.  Unless they have a brother who plays basketball...and grows up in Wisconsin.  Usually they go blue-blood.  And when they go to other schools it usually doesn't create a windfall.


Stretchdeltsig


Agree with the comment that Henry is not ready for the NBA as a player.  He needs more experience at the "gold blood" competition level leading Marquette to a national title.  Who wants to sit on the bench for the next few years instead of playing full time for a title? 

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: bamamarquettefan on April 03, 2016, 02:45:13 AM
I remember Sullinger staying at OSU in a similar situation and even little back issues his sophomore year cost him millions and millions.

You really can't take a chance - it might be your only year with guaranteed lottery money.

You get paid in your second and third contract.  Sullinger will make it all back this summer with a new contract.

If one's drive is a guaranteed lottery contract, it sounds like the are being driven by the fear it will be their only NBA contract.  They fear they are a bust.

Sure they could suffer if series of Derrick Rose injuries before the second contract.  But you cannot let that what if dominant your decision making process.  Besides Rose is still in the league getting paid.

Pakuni

Quote from: warriorfan 14 on April 03, 2016, 08:50:07 AM
Henry will get paid big time for sure, and I can't blame him for leaving. However, I am pretty confident in saying he is no where near ready to contribute. He won't be able to guard anybody, isn't super athletic, and doesn't have an outside shot. Will likely sit on the bench for a couple years, and it won't take long for fans to label him a bust

So, in other words, he's exactly like most one-and-dones.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on April 03, 2016, 09:29:27 AM
That's my bad I meant top 10 picks but the beers I had registered it as lottery even though the lottery wasn't around yet. So it'd be Wade and Lee along with Henry.

No problem....hopefully the beers didn't lead to a FUGLY wake up this morning   ;)

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