NY Times: Imagine the Big East, Coast to Coast

[Benny B]

Careful. Where has MU been the past three years???

In the classroom.  Because, you know, academic standards and all that blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

[Benny B]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

[Benny B]

[Benny B]

https://www.youtube.com/e/7-rroGskFnE

[forgetful]

Georgetown's peers (per the school) are generally some combination of Penn, Duke, Brown, and Virginia, with ND, BC, and Wake Forest on a second tier after that. That's a reflection of the admissions pool right now. There are next to no kids choosing between GU and, say, Creighton.

DFW, you are confusing two categories schools use.

Penn, Duke, Brown are GT's aspirational schools. 

Virginia, ND, BC and Wake are their peer institutions.

[Aughnanure]

DFW, you are confusing two categories schools use.

Penn, Duke, Brown are GT's aspirational schools. 

Virginia, ND, BC and Wake are their peer institutions.

I'd say Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Duke, ND, Johns Hopkins, Northeastern, Wash U, Wake Forest, BC  are all peers. It's makes more sense that they'd associate more with the other private schools that are outside the Ivy (and Stanford). They do not consider GW a peer at all however (rich school that overrated because of how expensive it is and the wealth of the families that attend) .

The Ivy is hard to quantify because the name "Ivy" carries so much weight regardless, but there is a clear divide of the perception of the schools after Yale-Princeton--Harvard and then after Columbia-Penn.

[Galway Eagle]

I'd say Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Duke, ND, Johns Hopkins, Northeastern, Wash U, Wake Forest, BC  are all peers. It's makes more sense that they'd associate more with the other private schools that are outside the Ivy (and Stanford). They do not consider GW a peer at all however (rich school that overrated because of how expensive it is and the wealth of the families that attend) .

The Ivy is hard to quantify because the name "Ivy" carries so much weight regardless, but there is a clear divide of the perception of the schools after Yale-Princeton--Harvard and then after Columbia-Penn.

Take out Duke and Vanderbilt then we're in agreement

[forgetful]

Take out Duke and Vanderbilt then we're in agreement

Agree.  I'd also take out John Hopkins, because it is a different type of University really.

[Galway Eagle]

Agree.  I'd also take out John Hopkins, because it is a different type of University really.

Don't know much about them beyond their Lax team but I'll agree with you. 

[keefe]

Georgetown's peers (per the school) are generally some combination of Penn, Duke, Brown, and Virginia, with ND, BC, and Wake Forest on a second tier after that. That's a reflection of the admissions pool right now. There are next to no kids choosing between GU and, say, Creighton.

I am writing as a member of the Georgetown family...

Georgetown and UVA are not in the same category as Penn, Duke, Brown. They are not.

Georgetown compares favorably with UVA, ND, and BC but will never comp with any Ivy or Little Ivy.

I was accepted into GU but chose MU. I have zero regrets.

[keefe]

I'd say Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Duke, ND, Johns Hopkins, Northeastern, Wash U, Wake Forest, BC  are all peers. It's makes more sense that they'd associate more with the other private schools that are outside the Ivy (and Stanford). They do not consider GW a peer at all however (rich school that overrated because of how expensive it is and the wealth of the families that attend).

Northeastern? Wake Forest?? Please. They have no business being mentioned in the same sentence as NU, Vandy, Duke, Washington U, and Johns Hopkins.

You mention GW but i assume you meant Georgetown. In the NCR there is Georgetown and then there is everyone else. On the east coast GW isn't a player.

[keefe]

Agree.  I'd also take out John Hopkins, because it is a different type of University really.

What did John Hopkins do that you want to take him out??

[GooooMarquette]

What did John Hopkins do that you want to take him out??

Isn't he the guy who hit the game winning shot for Duke against UK years ago?

#ihatejohnhopkins

[MomofMUltiples]

It's Johns Hopkins, boys.

Notre Dame announced yesterday that they are joining the Big 10 conference for hockey.  They're independent for football, so maybe they could join the Big East for Basketball.  May as well get your hands into as many conferences as you can!

[GooooMarquette]

It's Johns Hopkins, boys.

I think you missed the implied teal.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

It's Johns Hopkins, boys.

Notre Dame announced yesterday that they are joining the Big 10 conference for hockey.  They're independent for football, so maybe they could join the Big East for Basketball.  May as well get your hands into as many conferences as you can!

John Hopkins is $39,000 per year Prep High School here in New Haven.

[keefe]

John Hopkins is $39,000 per year Prep High School here in New Haven.

How much more for the 's'?

[GooooMarquette]

How much more for the 's'?

$2000, but they call it a "student activity fee."

[keefe]

$2000, but they call it a "student activity fee."

Does that include a guarantee that the campus will be a comfortable and safe place?

[Aughnanure]

Northeastern? Wake Forest?? Please. They have no business being mentioned in the same sentence as NU, Vandy, Duke, Washington U, and Johns Hopkins.

You mention GW but i assume you meant Georgetown. In the NCR there is Georgetown and then there is everyone else. On the east coast GW isn't a player.

Jesus, yes they certainly do. And GW was referring to George Washington. Georgetown does not see GW as a peer.

[Benny B]

$2000, but they call it a "student activity fee."

[keefe]

Jesus, yes they certainly do. And GW was referring to George Washington. Georgetown does not see GW as a peer.

That's a matter of opinion. Northeastern and Wake are nowhere near the reputation of Northwestern, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Washington U, or Vandy. And it's not even close.

Wake is the third best school in the Triangle and has a regional cachet that doesn't travel well.

In the Boston area, Northeastern is looking up at Harvard, MIT, Tufts, BU, BC, Babson, Smith, Wellesley, Amherst, Williams, and Brandeis.

Here is the acid test: students gather in Grendel's in Cambridge. The only person among those schools listed NOT wearing his college sweatshirt is the guy from Northeastern. For a reason.

When I see Vandy, Duke, NU, Washington U, or Johns Hopkins on a CV I give it a hard look because those schools mean something. I don't do the same for a Northeastern, Wake, or GW grad. 

[keefe]

It's Johns Hopkins

He paid the $2,000 Student Activity Fee?

[Aughnanure]

That's a matter of opinion. Northeastern and Wake are nowhere near the reputation of Northwestern, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Washington U, or Vandy. And it's not even close.

Wake is the third best school in the Triangle and has a regional cachet that doesn't travel well.

In the Boston area, Northeastern is looking up at Harvard, MIT, Tufts, BU, BC, Babson, Smith, Wellesley, Amherst, Williams, and Brandeis.

Here is the acid test: students gather in Grendel's in Cambridge. The only person among those schools listed NOT wearing his college sweatshirt is the guy from Northeastern. For a reason.

When I see Vandy, Duke, NU, Washington U, or Johns Hopkins on a CV I give it a hard look because those schools mean something. I don't do the same for a Northeastern, Wake, or GW grad.

Ugh, you're one of those.

Also, no one outside New England/Upper Northeast even recognizes Babson, Smith, Williams....some will recognize Amherst and Brandeis but jeez. Also, its not about who you're "looking up to" in your area. No college aspires to be a school that compares itself only locally. These schools are all pretty close, we're not trying to create a perfect f***ing hierarchy here.

[Pakuni]

Here is the acid test: students gather in Grendel's in Cambridge. The only person among those schools listed NOT wearing his college sweatshirt is the guy from Northeastern. For a reason.

He has a sense of style?