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Grad. Transfer PF Options

Started by Litehouse, February 01, 2016, 12:31:58 PM

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Litehouse

There have been a lot of posts lately speculating on a potential grad transfer PF for next year if Henry leaves.  I went through the current list of top 100 rebounders to see if there were any that fit the profile, and these are the only ones that look like potential options.  I have no idea if any of them are actually considering transferring, they just fit the profile of 3 years of eligibility over 4 years to make it more likely to be graduating this spring.  Other players could also graduate in 3 years and be possibilities.  Overall, I think the take-away is that there aren't that many potential grad transfer PFs out there.

Brian Pegg - Stetson
9.7 RPG
He's technically listed as a G at 6-7 205, but he just had 13 pts & 12 reb against us.

Jordan Tolbert - SMU
9.4 RPG
He transferred from Texas Tech to SMU, and is originally from Ft. Worth, so he might not want to leave.

Brett Bisping - Siena
9.3 RPG
From Peoria, IL, listed at 6-8 238, averaging 15.7 ppg

Marcel Boyd - Howard
8.8 RPG
Listed at 6-10 230, from Maryland, averaging 9.8 ppg

Nate Kratch - Santa Clara
8.7 RPG
Listed at 6-6 227, from Watertown, MN, he might not look like a banger, but 10.3 ppg & 8.7 rpg is still pretty good.

Bola Olaniyan - Southern Illinois
8.2 RPG
Listed at 6-7 220, from Nigeria, 7.3 ppg, he might profile as more of the banger people have been looking for.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Litehouse on February 01, 2016, 12:31:58 PM
There have been a lot of posts lately speculating on a potential grad transfer PF for next year if Henry leaves.  I went through the current list of top 100 rebounders to see if there were any that fit the profile, and these are the only ones that look like potential options.  I have no idea if any of them are actually considering transferring, they just fit the profile of 3 years of eligibility over 4 years to make it more likely to be graduating this spring.  Other players could also graduate in 3 years and be possibilities.  Overall, I think the take-away is that there aren't that many potential grad transfer PFs out there.

Brian Pegg - Stetson
9.7 RPG
He's technically listed as a G at 6-7 205, but he just had 13 pts & 12 reb against us.

Jordan Tolbert - SMU
9.4 RPG
He transferred from Texas Tech to SMU, and is originally from Ft. Worth, so he might not want to leave.

Brett Bisping - Sienna
9.3 RPG
From Peoria, IL, listed at 6-8 238, averaging 15.7 ppg

Marcel Boyd - Howard
8.8 RPG
Listed at 6-10 230, from Maryland, averaging 9.8 ppg

Nate Kratch - Santa Clara
8.7 RPG
Listed at 6-6 227, from Watertown, MN, he might not look like a banger, but 10.3 ppg & 8.7 rpg is still pretty good.

Bola Olaniyan - Southern Illinois
8.2 RPG
Listed at 6-7 220, from Nigeria, 7.3 ppg, he might profile as more of the banger people have been looking for.
Thanks for doing this analysis. Will keep an eye on each.
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brewcity77

A few more names worth watching, Jaron Blossomgame from Clemson, Jimmy Hall from Kent State, and Davante Gardner clone RJ White from UNC-Greensboro.
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brewcity77

Though the likely best-possible grad transfer PF is one we couldn't take. Jalen Reynolds from Xavier is a redshirt junior.
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moomoo

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 01, 2016, 01:52:27 PM
A few more names worth watching, Jaron Blossomgame from Clemson, Jimmy Hall from Kent State, and Davante Gardner clone RJ White from UNC-Greensboro.

Jimmy Hall from Kent State would be my absolute first choice.

A tough kid, rebounder, but also a nice touch.

What I also like is that he owned up to a real bad mistake and is now a solid B student and on track to graduate.

Seems like a stand up young man that has turned an incredibly bad negative into a life changing positive event.

And he's a beast on the boards.

Silenzio. Parla il moomoo.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: moomoo on February 01, 2016, 02:26:25 PM
Jimmy Hall from Kent State would be my absolute first choice.

What I also like is that he owned up to a real bad mistake.

Now this kid looks exciting & Buzz type recruit (16 & 8) after watching some film.

What did he do off the court ?

moomoo

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 01, 2016, 02:32:29 PM
Now this kid looks exciting & Buzz type recruit (16 & 8) after watching some film.

What did he do off the court ?

Allegedly stole some computers. 
Silenzio. Parla il moomoo.

Litehouse

Some articles on Jimmy Hall...
http://nypost.com/2016/01/25/booted-for-theft-hoops-star-needed-2nd-chance-and-found-kent-st/
http://www.nycbuckets.com/2015/03/the-re-education-of-jimmy-hall/

Looks like he'd be a great fit, but it sounds like he might feel some allegiance to Kent State for taking a chance on him.

GGGG


WarriorPride68

Quote from: Litehouse on February 01, 2016, 02:35:44 PM

Looks like he'd be a great fit

I'm not sure about great fit with how Wojo wants to run a program:

"Hall, a 6-foot-7 forward from Brooklyn, was averaging 12.7 points and a team-leading 9.4 rebounds per game when he was arrested along with Hofstra teammates Shaquille Stokes, Dallas Anglin and Kentrell Washington in late November of 2012 on felony burglary charges stemming from dormitory room break-ins. The players were charged in six burglaries that occurred between Oct. 4 and Nov. 5, and were suspected in many others starting at the beginning of the semester. The thefts included laptop computers, IPads, IPhones and cash"

Love the kids on court talent & frame though

moomoo

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 01, 2016, 02:42:01 PM
I'm not sure about great fit with how Wojo wants to run a program:

"Hall, a 6-foot-7 forward from Brooklyn, was averaging 12.7 points and a team-leading 9.4 rebounds per game when he was arrested along with Hofstra teammates Shaquille Stokes, Dallas Anglin and Kentrell Washington in late November of 2012 on felony burglary charges stemming from dormitory room break-ins. The players were charged in six burglaries that occurred between Oct. 4 and Nov. 5, and were suspected in many others starting at the beginning of the semester. The thefts included laptop computers, IPads, IPhones and cash"

Love the kids on court talent & frame though

But this fits in with wojo:

"Hall has been a model student-athlete, Senderoff said, on pace to graduate next year, posting a 3.0 GPA. He has plenty of support, a serious girlfriend and his mother and his younger sister have moved into the area."
Silenzio. Parla il moomoo.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Litehouse on February 01, 2016, 02:35:44 PM
Some articles on Jimmy Hall...
http://nypost.com/2016/01/25/booted-for-theft-hoops-star-needed-2nd-chance-and-found-kent-st/
http://www.nycbuckets.com/2015/03/the-re-education-of-jimmy-hall/

Looks like he'd be a great fit, but it sounds like he might feel some allegiance to Kent State for taking a chance on him.

Who knew Kent State was a squirmy, "just win baby" kind of program? Fortunately we here at Duke North won't have to dirty our hands with the likes of him!

Herman Cain

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 01, 2016, 04:20:33 PM
Who knew Kent State was a squirmy, "just win baby" kind of program? Fortunately we here at Duke North won't have to dirty our hands with the likes of him!
So your saying we dont have to worry about getting another
"Stretch" Gregory
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brewcity77

In a perfect world, I think Blossomgame would be the ideal fit. If Henry leaves, we would need someone who can grab boards and also could use a go-to scorer. He fits both of those roles while also being able to nail the three. That said, he'd draw the kind of interest Damion Lee or Shonn Miller did, so it'd be a tough, tough get.

I'm also a fan of Bola Olaniyan. Kid just cleans up the glass on both ends.
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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 01, 2016, 04:32:26 PM
In a perfect world, I think Blossomgame would be the ideal fit. If Henry leaves, we would need someone who can grab boards and also could use a go-to scorer. He fits both of those roles while also being able to nail the three. That said, he'd draw the kind of interest Damion Lee or Shonn Miller did, so it'd be a tough, tough get.

I'm also a fan of Bola Olaniyan. Kid just cleans up the glass on both ends.

Yeah, if we had some magic genie who said we could have anyone we wanted it would have to be Blossomgame. He's a stud.
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MU82

I hear that Dwight Howard kid didn't use up any of his college eligibility. He is a little immature, though.
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bilsu

There was some talk about eliminating the grad transfer rule. Has anything changed regarding this?

GGGG

Quote from: bilsu on February 01, 2016, 09:59:32 PM
There was some talk about eliminating the grad transfer rule. Has anything changed regarding this?


No.  Still in effect.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: moomoo on February 01, 2016, 02:26:25 PM
Jimmy Hall from Kent State would be my absolute first choice.

A tough kid, rebounder, but also a nice touch.

What I also like is that he owned up to a real bad mistake and is now a solid B student and on track to graduate.

Seems like a stand up young man that has turned an incredibly bad negative into a life changing positive event.

And he's a beast on the boards.

I thought that we were looking for someone to step in next year (replacing HE), not a guy to sit out a transfer year. so on track to graduate next year don't cut it.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

brewcity77

Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on March 14, 2016, 08:27:48 PM
I thought that we were looking for someone to step in next year (replacing HE), not a guy to sit out a transfer year. so on track to graduate next year don't cut it.

Jimmy is a fourth year junior. From what I've heard, on track to graduate this year.
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forgetful

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 01, 2016, 01:52:27 PM
A few more names worth watching, Jaron Blossomgame from Clemson, Jimmy Hall from Kent State, and Davante Gardner clone RJ White from UNC-Greensboro.

I think there is a better chance Blossomgame goes to the NBA than Marquette next year, but if we could somehow get him, Damn!!

I think swapping in Blossomgame for HE would be at worst a wash.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 14, 2016, 08:30:52 PM
Jimmy is a fourth year junior. From what I've heard, on track to graduate this year.

Thanks for clarifying 
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: forgetful on March 14, 2016, 08:35:25 PM
I think there is a better chance Blossomgame goes to the NBA than Marquette next year, but if we could somehow get him, Damn!!

I think swapping in Blossomgame for HE would be at worst a wash.

Definitely will be an improvement from Hank this year.

But I'd take a sophmore Hank if I had the choice.

Blossomgame would be awesome though
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: HowardsHeroes32 on March 14, 2016, 10:37:25 PM
Definitely will be an improvement from Hank this year.

But I'd take a sophmore Hank if I had the choice.

Blossomgame would be awesome though

Wojo could try to sell him by looking at how they used Henry.
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brewcity77

Quote from: forgetful on March 14, 2016, 08:35:25 PM
I think there is a better chance Blossomgame goes to the NBA than Marquette next year, but if we could somehow get him, Damn!!

I think swapping in Blossomgame for HE would be at worst a wash.

I would agree with all of this. That said, while I think he would fit into our team perfectly, I would be shocked if he had any interest in Marquette. If Wojo could land Blossomgame, it would seriously be his greatest recruiting success by leaps and bounds. No other recruit he landed would come close from an accomplishment standpoint.
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