How many more wins / final record?

[WarriorPride68]

13-7 (3-5) currently
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I see 3 more wins on the schedule

16-15 (5-13) heading into the BE tourney

(My heart says 18, just don't believe it)

[Loose Cannon]

  18-13  Light bulb in Players heads get Brighter as the season  progresses.

[MarquetteDano]

  18-13  Light bulb in Players heads get Brighter as the season  progresses.

19-12 (8-10) going into BET. I think NIT needs to be the achievable goal at this point.

[forgetful]

19-12 (8-10) going into BET. I think NIT needs to be the achievable goal at this point.

I think this is correct.  Perfectly reasonable.  9-9 is not out of sight, but we need Duane to play at his peak ability.

[brewcity77]

I think we'll win some more we shouldn't, and have already lost the ones we shouldn't have. I'm going eternal optimist and saying 7-4 from here on out. Enter the BET at 20-11 (9-9) but still needing three wins to dance.

[mu03eng]

I think we'll win some more we shouldn't, and have already lost the ones we shouldn't have. I'm going eternal optimist and saying 7-4 from here on out. Enter the BET at 20-11 (9-9) but still needing three wins to dance.

With the exception of DePaul(away) the rest of our conference games are against KenPom top 50 competition, of which we have exactly one win against such a team, Providence. Wisconsin is currently 59 so maybe we give MU 2 wins.

Not to be super negative, but how exactly are we going to win 6 of 10 against top 50 competition? Unfortunately, I see us going 2-8 down the stretch leaving us at 16-15 and just in the NIT.

At some point, we are who we are.

[ATWizJr]

16-15 going into the BE tourney if we beat the teams we are supposed to beat.

[awilhelmscream]

19-12 (8-10) going into BET. I think NIT needs to be the achievable goal at this point.

I feel like this is accurate in terms of record.  Call me crazy but I think we're playing in the BET Championship game where the dream of dancing ultimately dies.  NIT is fairly sure fire in my eyes barring a complete collapse.

[KampusFoods]

I feel like this is accurate in terms of record.  Call me crazy but I think we're playing in the BET Championship game where the dream of dancing ultimately dies.  NIT is fairly sure fire in my eyes barring a complete collapse.

You're crazy.

[mu03eng]

I feel like this is accurate in terms of record.  Call me crazy but I think we're playing in the BET Championship game where the dream of dancing ultimately dies.  NIT is fairly sure fire in my eyes barring a complete collapse.

You are certifiably crazy

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I think we'll win some more we shouldn't, and have already lost the ones we shouldn't have. I'm going eternal optimist and saying 7-4 from here on out. Enter the BET at 20-11 (9-9) but still needing three wins to dance.

Me too, but at this point that very optimistic.  Depaul loss is just crushing.  Sitting at 4-4 right now things would look so much better. 

I don't see only 2-4 wins though, as some here suggestion.  I think we'll get to 8-10 at worst.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

You are certifiably crazy

I dont think winning back to back games in the BET is impossible. 

[MerrittsMustache]

Best-case scenario: 16 wins

Stetson's a W.

PC, Creighton, DePaul and Gtown are all winnable...but I don't see MU winning all of them.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Best-case scenario: 16 wins

Stetson's a W.

PC, Creighton, DePaul and Gtown are all winnable...but I don't see MU winning all of them.

Meh.  I see every game remaining besides @ X and vs. Nova as "winnable".  At Butler will be tough but not impossible and I think MU can beat Butler at home this weekend.  Obviously not going to finish BE play 7-3, though. 

[MUfan12]

I think they probably win 3 more league games, plus Stetson. Just not good enough to put a full game together against a non-cupcake.

[MarquetteDano]

Not to be super negative, but how exactly are we going to win 6 of 10 against top 50 competition? Unfortunately, I see us going 2-8 down the stretch leaving us at 16-15 and just in the NIT.

At some point, we are who we are.

Dont think 16-15 is good enough for the NIT. Especially with our non-con. Unless we win 2 in the BET. We need 18 wins min for NIT.

[MU82]

With the exception of DePaul(away) the rest of our conference games are against KenPom top 50 competition, of which we have exactly one win against such a team, Providence. Wisconsin is currently 59 so maybe we give MU 2 wins.

Not to be super negative, but how exactly are we going to win 6 of 10 against top 50 competition? Unfortunately, I see us going 2-8 down the stretch leaving us at 16-15 and just in the NIT.

At some point, we are who we are.

Thank goodness we don't let Kenpom scores decide our games, or we would have lost to LSU, ASU, Wis and Prov. I know sometimes it's annoying to actually have to play the games and see what happens in them. (Just needling ya a little mu03, so please don't take it personally.)

As to the opening question, "How many more wins?"

I don't know ... how many more games to we have to play? I say we run the table!

Hey, I'm still high after the Panthers' 900-2 win yesterday!

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Dont think 16-15 is good enough for the NIT. Especially with our non-con. Unless we win 2 in the BET. We need 18 wins min for NIT.

I also worry about this -- I think we can do it, but NIT is going to require a fairly strong finish (relative to this team).

[mu03eng]

Thank goodness we don't let Kenpom scores decide our games, or we would have lost to LSU, ASU, Wis and Prov. I know sometimes it's annoying to actually have to play the games and see what happens in them. (Just needling ya a little mu03, so please don't take it personally.)

As to the opening question, "How many more wins?"

I don't know ... how many more games to we have to play? I say we run the table!

Hey, I'm still high after the Panthers' 900-2 win yesterday!

Fair enough(and no offense taken), I'm simply saying that the last 10 games of conference season are really really really tough, and to expect to win more than half of them when we've shown no ability to do so "on paper" seems insane to me. Not to mention for every good half of Georgetown, Villanova or Xavier we now have bad halves against Seton Hall, St Johns, and DePaul. Eye test says they just can't hang with the top 6 in conference this year.

If it's going to happen, they have to stop making freshmen mistakes....but they've shown no sign of being able to do that.

I'm trying to be a realist about this in the vain hope that when we do go 3-7 that this place doesn't freak out because their expectations are still far too high.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Fair enough(and no offense taken), I'm simply saying that the last 10 games of conference season are really really really tough, and to expect to win more than half of them when we've shown no ability to do so "on paper" seems insane to me. Not to mention for every good half of Georgetown, Villanova or Xavier we now have bad halves against Seton Hall, St Johns, and DePaul. Eye test says they just can't hang with the top 6 in conference this year.

If it's going to happen, they have to stop making freshmen mistakes....but they've shown no sign of being able to do that.

I'm trying to be a realist about this in the vain hope that when we do go 3-7 that this place doesn't freak out because their expectations are still far too high.

Haha, that's inevitable if 3-7 comes to fruition.

[MU82]

Fair enough(and no offense taken), I'm simply saying that the last 10 games of conference season are really really really tough, and to expect to win more than half of them when we've shown no ability to do so "on paper" seems insane to me. Not to mention for every good half of Georgetown, Villanova or Xavier we now have bad halves against Seton Hall, St Johns, and DePaul. Eye test says they just can't hang with the top 6 in conference this year.

If it's going to happen, they have to stop making freshmen mistakes....but they've shown no sign of being able to do that.

I'm trying to be a realist about this in the vain hope that when we do go 3-7 that this place doesn't freak out because their expectations are still far too high.

Excellent point. And thanks for giving my post all the seriousness it deserved!

I'm genuinely curious which games Kenpom forecast us to win that we lost and forecast us to lose that we won. Not curious to look it up myself, of course, because I'm one of the laziest guys I know!

[Jay Bee]

Anywhere from 16 to 18 regular season wins are within the realm of reason.

[WarriorPride68]

Excellent point. And thanks for giving my post all the seriousness it deserved!

I'm genuinely curious which games Kenpom forecast us to win that we lost and forecast us to lose that we won. Not curious to look it up myself, of course, because I'm one of the laziest guys I know!

This doesn't answer your question. But Kenpom had MU finishing 5th place in the Big East win a 9-9 conference record

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I could see max 21 wins. Realistically I think we win 17 or 18.

My bold optimistic prediction is that we sweep Butler. My bold pessimistic prediction is that we get swept by Creighton.

[bilsu]

Yesterday Henry pursued rebounds. However, the last big rebound game was also against St. John's. So I am not sure, if Henry has a new attitude or if St. John's lacks the bulk to keep him from dominating the boards. To achieve more than 17 wins we need Ellenson to be a dominant force.