Jackson St.

[tower912]

1.  Duane stop shooting 3's.
2.  Haanif, keep shooting them.
3.  Flashes of good defense, but still inconsistent.
4.  Wally always brings it.  Cutting into JJ's minutes.
5.  Cupcakes are yummy.
6.  Rebound better. 
7.  The offense is so much better when run through Luke and Henry.

[WayOfTheWarrior]

1.  Duane Traci stop shooting 3's.
   1.5 Guards, take smarter shots.
2.  Haanif, keep shooting them, but not at the expense of taking it to the hole
3.  Flashes of good defense, but still inconsistent.
4.  Wally always brings it.  Cutting into JJ's minutes.
5.  Cupcakes are yummy.
6.  Rebound better. 
7.  The offense is so much better when run through Luke and Henry.

8. Still figuring out how to break the zone.
9. No Sacar???
10. Good win, keep going!

JJJ will play more than Wally in non-cupcake games.

[wadesworld]

JJJ left town Friday after practice and got back just before the game due to the death of his grandfather. I'm guessing that was the biggest reason he didn't play much.

As far as the game goes, other than a 5 minute stretch towards the end of it, good ball movement and good effort. Jackson State stinks but we played well.

[Mutaman]

Carter again had only one turnover.

[ChicosBailBonds]

One of those games where we looked good because the competition was pretty poor.  We looked relaxed, which a good team will not allow us to look like that.  However, these are games we need to play this time of year, and I'm glad we mostly played well, shot it well, etc.  A little sloppy at the end, but hopefully an overall continued confidence builder.

On to the next cupcake, an even cuppier cupcake, but let's take advantage of it and build.

[nyg]

JJJ left town Friday after practice and got back just before the game due to the death of his grandfather. I'm guessing that was the biggest reason he didn't play much.

As far as the game goes, other than a 5 minute stretch towards the end of it, good ball movement and good effort. Jackson State stinks but we played well.

Yeah, MU was up 22 with six to go and pretty poor playing in. 

Believe Cheatham had 24, with literally two missed layups in first minute.  Much better at off guard and he makes his free throws.

15 turnovers, so at least down from the 20 per game.  Big difference with Carter at PG and not Cheatham. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

Sacar has a Buzz sprained ankle, ai na?

[jsglow]

Sacar has a Buzz sprained ankle, ai na?

Was a bit surprised that he was a DNP-CD.

[GGGG]

Offense is significantly better with Traci at the point.

[cheebs09]

I think any Big East team should run a trap against us until we prove we can beat it. Carter is the only one that I feel comfortable with against pressure.

Hoping Duane gets his shot back. There weren't too many bad looks today from 3, just didn't go in for him.

I really like what I see from Wally. He hasn't done a ton on offense, but I like the way he plays defense and seems like he can make those winning plays that we will need to pull out Big East games.

Pomeroy had this as a 10 point win. There were a lot of good things, but still a lot of things to work on, which I think is good.

[bradley center bat]

Marquette covered the spread. 12.5

I thought Jackson State is coached very well. They have one very nice player in #10.

[GGGG]

Henry also had another double-double and five assists.  Only missed one shot that wasn't a three.

[BM1090]

Really hope we all appreciate Henry while he's here. 7/11 shooting, 15 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists. And 0 SOTG votes.

Really good player.

[Litehouse]

I wish Wojo would have taken out Luke for the last few minutes.  Front court depth is limited, so no point in risking an injury to him, and every little bit of game experience will help out Heldt down the road.

[cheebs09]

Henry also had another double-double and five assists.  Only missed one shot that wasn't a three.

His free throw line jumper will be a zone buster. That thing is pure. He's been very good from the line now that he has gotten more arc on his shot.  A double double used to be an auto-SOTG, now it's ho-hum. He's been a lot of fun to watch.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

His free throw line jumper will be a zone buster. That thing is pure. He's been very good from the line now that he has gotten more arc on his shot.  A double double used to be an auto-SOTG, now it's ho-hum. He's been a lot of fun to watch.

Yup. Henry puts together the most quiet double doubles I've ever seen.

[forgetful]

His free throw line jumper will be a zone buster. That thing is pure. He's been very good from the line now that he has gotten more arc on his shot. A double double used to be an auto-SOTG, now it's ho-hum. He's been a lot of fun to watch.

To be fair, the other guy put up 24 pts and was perfect from 3 and the line.

[cheebs09]

To be fair, the other guy put up 24 pts and was perfect from 3 and the line.

I would vote for HC too. More just highlighting how good Henry has been, and he's made it seem like it's the norm already.

[We R Final Four]

His free throw line jumper will be a zone buster. That thing is pure. He's been very good from the line now that he has gotten more arc on his shot.  A double double used to be an auto-SOTG, now it's ho-hum. He's been a lot of fun to watch.

Yes--that is his game--mid range. His 4 of 20 from deep (mostly uncontested) is not what we need. He is consistently drawing the double in the post and is now driving out of it or passing to the open man on the perimeter.

[We R Final Four]

1.  Duane stop shooting 3's.

Duane just needs to get right.  We have seen teams that wont shoot in the past. I dont want him passing up wide open threes.  He can make the three.  Its not falling yet, but I hope he gets it right.

[forgetful]

I would vote for HC too. More just highlighting how good Henry has been, and he's made it seem like it's the norm already.

Oh, agreed.  I do expect a double double from Henry at this point.

[Loose Cannon]

  Is Sacar munching on Milkbones these days??

[forgetful]

Duane just needs to get right.  We have seen teams that wont shoot in the past. I dont want him passing up wide open threes.  He can make the three.  Its not falling yet, but I hope he gets it right.

Agreed.  He needs to see some start falling and build back the confidence.

[BM1090]

  Is Sacar munching on Milkbones these days??

I doubt it. Seems like a team player and hard worker. Just probably not good enough yet.

[mug644]

1.  Duane stop shooting 3's.

He was 3 for 9 today, not a terrible percentage. Maybe taking a couple too many since he wasn't 'hot' but I felt like most of them were within the offense. Seems like he's just trying to shoot through his slump (but, again, 33% is not that bad).

[GGGG]

Yeah that is why I don't think you tell 3 point shooters like Henry and Duane not to shoot threes. 

[warriorchick]

On a completely different note, did anyone notice that several of the Jackson State players had big patches of dark fabric sewn on the backs of their uniforms were the player names traditionally go?  (You might have to scroll to the right to see player #22)



It looks like it was done to cover up someone else's name.  I hope this team isn't so cash-strapped that they had to recycle old uniforms this way. 

[warriorstrack]

Maybe they have to earn the right to have their names show, or could be like an advent calendar, reveal one name every game until Christmas

[The Lens]

Those uni's were Russell Atheltic and they didn't say Jackson State anywhere.  Only Tigers.  I'm convinced they're generic and bought off a high school sporting goods website.

[cheebs09]

I remember DJO being ice cold for the non-conference part of his (I believe) senior year. He ended up turning it around. I hope Duane is just going through a rough stretch.

[jsglow]

Engine = 37 minutes.

Kid, you get a quick drink of water each half.  That's it.
By the time conference rolls around we want you to be a Sophomore. Now get back to practice.   

[Mutaman]

Engine = 37 minutes.

Kid, you get a quick drink of water each half.  That's it.
By the time conference rolls around we want you to be a Sophomore. Now get back to practice.   

One turnover

[forgetful]

One turnover

That was being generous.  He had two bad passes towards the end that Duane couldn't handle.  They assigned both of those two TOs to Duane.  At most one of them should have been on DW.

[warriorchick]

Those uni's were Russell Atheltic and they didn't say Jackson State anywhere.  Only Tigers.  I'm convinced they're generic and bought off a high school sporting goods website.

I bet that is not where Ole Miss or Mississippi State has to get their uniforms.  Just saying....

[GGGG]

I bet that is not where Ole Miss or Mississippi State has to get their uniforms.  Just saying....

Well UWM doesn't have as good a uniform deal as UW Madison. 

[warriorchick]

Well UWM doesn't have as good a uniform deal as UW Madison.

Actually, I was trying to make a point about the apparent disparity of available resources.

[dgies9156]

My thoughts:

1) Don't read too much into this game. It's Jackson State. Chances are their conference winner will be a 13 to 16 seed in the NCAA tournament. They're not built to compete with Marquette.

2) Running the offense through Luke and Henry is easy when you have four or five inches on their tallest player. It was nice to see Luke and Henry in the game, but it means nothing for Big East play since most of our competitors will at least size-wise match up with us. Didn't like the fact that Luke was blocking shots standing on his flat feet. That's a bad habit to get into.

3) Cheatham and Carter look like the real deals. Both played well in the early part of our schedule and continued solid play this afternoon.

4) By the intercession of St. Al, basketball coach and national champion, may we be free of the disease of excessive turnovers….. Or more simply, Lord MAKE IT STOP!!!!!

5) Santa Claus, would you please bring Duane Wilson a three point shot for Christmas. We Warrior fans have been very good this year and think this would be a very wonderful gift for our team. Thank you Santa!

[wadesworld]

My thoughts:

1) Don't read too much into this game. It's Jackson State. Chances are their conference winner will be a 13 to 16 seed in the NCAA tournament. They're not built to compete with Marquette.

2) Running the offense through Luke and Henry is easy when you have four or five inches on their tallest player. It was nice to see Luke and Henry in the game, but it means nothing for Big East play since most of our competitors will at least size-wise match up with us. Didn't like the fact that Luke was blocking shots standing on his flat feet. That's a bad habit to get into.

3) Cheatham and Carter look like the real deals. Both played well in the early part of our schedule and continued solid play this afternoon.

4) By the intercession of St. Al, basketball coach and national champion, may we be free of the disease of excessive turnovers….. Or more simply, Lord MAKE IT STOP!!!!!

5) Santa Claus, would you please bring Duane Wilson a three point shot for Christmas. We Warrior fans have been very good this year and think this would be a very wonderful gift for our team. Thank you Santa!

Luke, and all bigs, are taught to wall up their opponents. Plant your feet and get big. When you're 7' tall you don't need to be jumping all over to alter shots. Be big and if you happen to get a block great. When you start jumping around to block shots you get in foul trouble real quick, and we saw what this team looks like without Luke on the floor when we played Iowa...it's not pretty.

[Loose Cannon]

I doubt it. Seems like a team player and hard worker. Just probably not good enough yet.

  You may want to check out:  BD84 posts #1  in Topic "MU Wing and Guard Defense" (Nov 13)  and Wojo's response to player #2 Stating your BENCHED!!

Who  is the only player that has not played. 

My Guess, is lesson learned and we see Sacar in the game Wednesday.

[Mutaman]

That was being generous.  He had two bad passes towards the end that Duane couldn't handle.  They assigned both of those two TOs to Duane.  At most one of them should have been on DW.

OK . 37 minutes, 2 turnovers. one " towards the end" when nobody cared.

[GGGG]

Actually, I was trying to make a point about the apparent disparity of available resources.

Right.  Those same disparities exist in pretty much every public university system.

[MUfan12]

You may want to check out:  BD84 posts #1  in Topic "MU Wing and Guard Defense" (Nov 13)  and Wojo's response to player #2 Stating your BENCHED!!

Who  is the only player that has not played. 

My Guess, is lesson learned and we see Sacar in the game Wednesday.

That was a scene from Glengarry Glen Ross.

[Loose Cannon]

That was a scene from Glengarry Glen Ross.

Sorry,  I never saw the Disclaimer.  IIRC I though Wojo at the beginning of the year mentioned that Sarcar may be the best Athlete on the team.  Thanks

[MUfan12]

No worries. Sacar's absence is puzzling to me as well. Wally brings energy, but doesn't add much offensively. They must see something in practice that is keeping Anim from the floor. By all accounts he's a smart kid who works really hard, so I'm surprised if he hasn't picked up on what they're doing defensively.

[JWags85]

Actually, I was trying to make a point about the apparent disparity of available resources.

Between that and the constant scheduling reminders about Grambling, it reminded me of the articles about the funding problems at Grambling and how shoestring and sad their athletic department budget was.

[WarriorInNYC]

Two things I took away from this game:

1)  Henry and Luke are great passers - loved seeing the inside-out game
2)  Luke has soft hands - handled a lot of quick passes very well and was able convert quickly into points (remember Ooze attempting to handle passes like this?)

[warriorchick]

Between that and the constant scheduling reminders about Grambling, it reminded me of the articles about the funding problems at Grambling and how shoestring and sad their athletic department budget was.

I wonder why no one seems to make a big deal out of this - especially since many of these teams are from Thurgood Marshall schools (traditionally black public colleges).  It's an honest question - I am not trying to bait anyone here. 

[wadesworld]

Two things I took away from this game:

1)  Henry and Luke are great passers - loved seeing the inside-out game
2)  Luke has soft hands - handled a lot of quick passes very well and was able convert quickly into points (remember Ooze attempting to handle passes like this?)

Careful here, BeeJay may get all hot and bothered with people saying things like this on Scoop.  Hopefully he doesn't read this at work...

[GGGG]

I wonder why no one seems to make a big deal out of this - especially since many of these teams are from Thurgood Marshall schools (traditionally black public colleges).  It's an honest question - I am not trying to bait anyone here. 

Many HBCUs have poor resource bases not only because of their status in the south as HBCUs, but because they have done a very poor job of governance and fundraising throughout their history.  For instance, Grambling's endowment is $4.5 million.  $4.5 MILLION!!!  To put that in context, that is about a third of UW-Superior's endowment.

Part of the question has to be if these schools should even be playing D1 athletics.  Grambling is one of 10 public universities participating in D1 athletics in the State of Louisiana.  In a state smaller than Wisconsin, which has only four such universities.  The aforementioned UW-Superior just dropped out of the WIAC (D3 conference made up of UW schools) to join a conference of smaller schools from northern Minnesota and Wisconsin.  Why is Grambling still playing at the D1 level?

And I am not talking about all HBCUs.  Some are well endowed, such as Howard, Hampton, Southern and FAMU, and have the resources to be D1 schools.  But some simply aren't. 

[T-Bone]

Anyone else notice the frequency of the "tipped" rebounds?  It seems like whenever Luke is not quite in position for a rebound, he's at least trying to tip the ball away from the guy who would otherwise get it. 
Seemed like Wally was doing that a bunch too. 
I think a couple times it didn't work out so well, but seemed relatively successful.

[BM1090]

Jackson State is projected as the best team in the SWAC per Kenpom at 224, 24 spots ahead of the next best SWAC team (Southern). These are the games I love on the schedule. Relatively easy wins, but top 2 or 3 teams in the bottom 5 conferences.

Grambling, who we play on Wednesday, is the worst team in the SWAC and in the country (351)

[brewcity77]

So Jackson State lost in double overtime tonight to a decent Louisiana Tech team that is 6-1 and has won 27+ games each of the past three years. I looked at some of the stats and one of them floored me.

Louisiana Tech outscored Jackson State 37-6 from the line. 37-6. Even worse, that's not the first overtime game this season Jackson State has lost while being outscored 37-6 at the line. They lost at Tennessee Tech with the same FT disparity. That's a combined 74-12 free throw scoring deficit in two overtime games.

Looking at them, they are ranked 343 in allowing teams to get to the line and 348 in getting to the line themselves. They have 5 players that average 5+ fouls per 40 minutes and every single rotational player averages 3+ fouls per 40 minutes.

Gotta think if they can get those fouls under control and get their guys better at attacking the rim they could actually be competitive in some of these games. They have lost the total foul battle in eight of nine games, including their game against D2 Fisk.

74-12 in two overtime games. That's freaking crazy.