Is Monmouth The Real Deal?

[Tugg Speedman]

Monmouth is a popular buy game.  This year, however, they are 3 and 1 with wins over ND and UCLA.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400826204

Are they the real deal this year or lucky so far?

[keefe]

The coach thanks the Monmouth AD for giving him the time to build his program. evidently his early year records were not stellar. Interesting perspective.

[Jay Bee]

Monmouth is a popular bye game.  This year, however, they are 3 and 1 with wins over ND and UCLA.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400826204

Are they the real deal this year or lucky so far?

They are not the real deal.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Monmouth is a popular bye game.  This year, however, they are 3 and 1 with wins over ND and UCLA.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400826204

Are they the real deal this year or lucky so far?

UCLA sucks right now just as they did most of last year.  Shut down Bryce Alford and you win.  They may get it together, but right now they are not a good basketball team.

[Eldon]

UCLA sucks right now just as they did most of last year.  Shut down Bryce Alford and you win.  They may get it together, but right now they are not a good basketball team.

And yet they'll still somehow make the Tourney

[fjm]

I respect their wins, but the fact that their fanbase keeps using #mubb on twitter is annoying and confusing the living sh!t out of me... Knock it off damn monmouth people.

[Thomas' Danish Delight]

I respect their wins, but the fact that their fanbase keeps using #mubb on twitter is annoying and confusing the living sh!t out of me... Knock it off damn monmouth people.

+1 they should be mmbb or monb

mu.edu = Marquette

[ChicosBailBonds]

And yet they'll still somehow make the Tourney

Maybe.  They've missed it two of the last 6 seasons, and four times in the last 13 seasons (69% of the time they made it in those 13 years).

[downtown85]

Anyone who beats the Domers is the real deal in my book...at least for a day. 

[wadesworld]

They are not the real deal.

+1

[The Equalizer]

But are they a typical MAAC team?

[vogue65]

This summer I was in Long Branch, New Jersey and everything is MU this and MU that.  Even very similar typography, may even be a trademark infringement there somewhere.  Until recently they were Monmouth College.  Not to be a snob, but there are even some rubes in New Jersey.

In my book anyone who beats ND is the real deal, whatever they call themselves.

[Golden Avalanche]

This summer I was in Long Branch, New Jersey and everything is MU this and MU that.  Even very similar typography, may even be a trademark infringement there somewhere.  Until recently they were Monmouth College.  Not to be a snob, but there are even some rubes in New Jersey.

In my book anyone who beats ND is the real deal, whatever they call themselves.

They're rubes because the typography of their car sticker is similar to Marquette?

[jsglow]

Now they are giving Dayton all they want.

[Eldon]

Monmouth to the Big East?

[RushmoreAcademy]

Now they are giving Dayton all they want.

Anybody see the ESPN highlight of this game?  It was all about the Monmouth bench and their crazy choreographed celebrations. Pretty funny.

[Tugg Speedman]

The Beat USC today (Southern Cal, Not South Carolina).  Ok, they suck but it's another power conference won for them.

[BM1090]

The Beat USC today (Southern Cal, Not South Carolina).  Ok, they suck but it's another power conference won for them.

They definitely don't suck. Solid team. But you asked if they were the real deal. They have a 0% chance for an at large bid....so I wouldn't consider them the real deal.

Interestingly enough, they already played USC earlier this year and lost by 11. Won the rematch today.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

They definitely don't suck. Solid team. But you asked if they were the real deal. They have a 0% chance for an at large bid....so I wouldn't consider them the real deal.

Interestingly enough, they already played USC earlier this year and lost by 11. Won the rematch today.

I bet if they win out and then lose in the conf tourney championship, they'd be on the bubble.

So more like a 0.5% chance.

[GGGG]

Coached by former Tarheel King Rice who has turned his life around after battles with alcohol. 

[Skatastrophy]

The Monmouth bench has won me over.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/11/29/9814692/monmouth-bench-celebrations-benchwarmers-basketball

[Class71]

Yes, they are the real deal. More to come with a 5' 6" guard.

[jsglow]

Ummm, yeah.

BTW, where are all the GTown sweatervests?  How come there's no energy in the Verizon Center? Students suck these days.  I wonder who's announcing their transfer out after the game?  Blah, blah, blah.

[T-Bone]

Ummm, yeah.

BTW, where are all the GTown sweatervests?  How come there's no energy in the Verizon Center? Students suck these days.  I wonder who's announcing their transfer out after the game?  Blah, blah, blah.

They have the best sweater vest section in the nation...

[Tugg Speedman]

Ummm, yeah.

BTW, where are all the GTown sweatervests?  How come there's no energy in the Verizon Center? Students suck these days.  I wonder who's announcing their transfer out after the game?  Blah, blah, blah.

I believe G-Town is on a quarter system and they are on break (finished last week).

Monmouth has beaten UCLA, Notre Dame and USC.  They are leading big against G-Town late the second half (up 14 with 10 to play). 

Does any other school have more "marquee name" wins than Monmouth?

[LAZER]

I believe G-Town is on a quarter system and they are on break (finished last week).

Monmouth has beaten UCLA, Notre Dame and USC.  They are leading big against G-Town late the second half (up 12 with 12 to play). 

Does any other school have more "marquee name" wins than Monmouth?

MSU, Xavier, Duke, KU?

[Tugg Speedman]

Update, Monmouth up by 15 with 7 to play.  Oh, game at G-Town.

They just said Monmouth is 0-30 lifetime against the Big East (including 0-2 against Georgetown).

[naginiF]

Ummm, yeah.

BTW, where are all the GTown sweatervests?  How come there's no energy in the Verizon Center? Students suck these days.  I wonder who's announcing their transfer out after the game?  Blah, blah, blah.

you're ignoring the elephant in the room.  Verizon has HORRIBLE sight lines, primarily because of the Capitals.

[rocky_warrior]

I'm still not sure if they're The Real Deal(tm), but Georgetown's defense isn't playing very well.

[jsglow]

83-68 arse kicking.  They're good.

[brewcity77]

Don't know if Monmouth is the real deal, but at 6-4, I'm not at all convinced the Hoyas are the real deal.

[jsglow]

Don't know if Monmouth is the real deal, but at 6-4, I'm not at all convinced the Hoyas are the real deal.

True dat.  Where's our hoya friend?

[Loose Cannon]

  If we had those Wins would you consider MU the "Real Deal"???

[wadesworld]

True dat.  Where's our hoya friend?

He's still wondering whether they'll be a 1 seed or shafted down to a 3 seed.

[brewcity77]

If we had those Wins would you consider MU the "Real Deal"???

They do have an impressive resume thus far. The loss to Canisius is questionable, but that is a road conference game. Their two non-con losses (USC & Dayton) both look like tourney teams, and they were able to avenge the road loss to USC on a neutral court.

I ran RPIWizard and dropped the Belmont and Iowa losses, instead giving us the same two losses (USC road, Dayton neutral). I also dropped our last three cupcakes (Grambling, SJSU, Maine) and replaced them with the Notre Dame, UCLA, and USC wins that Monmouth earned. To offset the Canisius loss, I gave us a road loss to DePaul.

With a 10-8 conference record and 21-10 overall, we would have a RPI of 25 and SOS of 37. Going with our own schedule, we would have a RPI of 64 and SOS of 100. It certainly does look convincing.

[Loose Cannon]

They do have an impressive resume thus far. The loss to Canisius is questionable, but that is a road conference game. Their two non-con losses (USC & Dayton) both look like tourney teams, and they were able to avenge the road loss to USC on a neutral court.

I ran RPIWizard and dropped the Belmont and Iowa losses, instead giving us the same two losses (USC road, Dayton neutral). I also dropped our last three cupcakes (Grambling, SJSU, Maine) and replaced them with the Notre Dame, UCLA, and USC wins that Monmouth earned. To offset the Canisius loss, I gave us a road loss to DePaul.

With a 10-8 conference record and 21-10 overall, we would have a RPI of 25 and SOS of 37. Going with our own schedule, we would have a RPI of 64 and SOS of 100. It certainly does look convincing.

  Like your numbers Thanks

[PGsHeroes32]

Don't know if Monmouth is the real deal, but at 6-4, I'm not at all convinced the Hoyas are the real deal.

Streaky team. Looked real good in tough losses at MD and neutral to Duke. And they controlled Wisco handily. But also have 2 mid major losses with one being Radford.

[Jay Bee]

They are not the real deal.

...not far from making the tourney, but NIT it is for Monmouth. Would welcome us playing them.

[wadesworld]

Glad I don't have to hear more about their bench than the actual game itself in the NCAA Tournament.

[CTWarrior]

Glad I don't have to hear more about their bench than the actual game itself in the NCAA Tournament.

To me, if you have a very tough decision between a mid-major and a major, you shouild take the nid-major, who have so many built-in disadvantages.