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Re: Tourney Brackets
« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2016, 06:18:11 PM »
Another thing.  They claim that they do not try to set games up, but:

The decision to make A&M a 3 seed and UK a 4 seed is idiotic and would only be done if they were trying to set up:

Texas v. A&M; UK v. IU

Agree.  Did UK beat A&M like three times this year?  Yet A&M gets the 3 seed and UK the 4 seed? 

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« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2016, 06:22:49 PM »
+10000 How the hell does Cuse get in with a 72 RPI?? Tulsa with two losses to Memphis and gets in??

Cuse was 19-13, including 3-9 on the road,  lost five of its last six and was recently caught cheating. But they sometimes sell 25,000 tickets, so they get in. Disgrace.

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« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2016, 06:26:13 PM »
Cuse was 19-13, including 3-9 on the road,  lost five of its last six and was recently caught cheating. But they sometimes sell 25,000 tickets, so they get in. Disgrace.

This is what bothers me.  They get to play most non-conference games at home.  Monmouth and others play them on the road.

If you made these mediocre power conference teams play all their non-conference games on the road, they'd be crap.  Monmouth would have outplayed them this year. 

They get to beat up on competition at home, hurting the lower tier conferences reputation and boasting the power conferences.

They set up an unbalanced beginning and use those "artificial reputations" to show how good the mediocre power conference teams are.

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Re: Tourney Brackets
« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2016, 06:30:52 PM »
Not normally a fan of Coach Cal but he is killing it on espn.  Going after NCAA for what they seed with is it RPI road wins schedule it is a floating target.  A&M a 3 seed after he just best them

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Re: Tourney Brackets
« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2016, 06:32:10 PM »
A&M beat Kentucky earlier in the year.

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« Reply #55 on: March 13, 2016, 06:35:59 PM »
A&M beat Kentucky earlier in the year.

They played twice.  Once at A&M, where they won a close 2 pt game at home.  The other on a neutral site, Kentucky won.

Neutral site victory should take precedence. 

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« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2016, 06:42:35 PM »
They played twice.  Once at A&M, where they won a close 2 pt game at home.  The other on a neutral site, Kentucky won.

Neutral site victory should take precedence.

Disagree. Neither should take precedence. Head to head should not be a metric at all because when most of the 351 eligible teams don't play head to head.

What matters is overall resume. Cal's argument is as stupid as if Kevin Willard went on ESPN and said they should be seeded ahead of Nova because of yesterday's result.

If the contention is that Kentucky had a stronger overall resume, he has a case. If he's basing it on one overtime result from earlier today, he's a myopic imbecile.
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« Reply #57 on: March 13, 2016, 06:50:11 PM »
Disagree. Neither should take precedence. Head to head should not be a metric at all because when most of the 351 eligible teams don't play head to head.

What matters is overall resume. Cal's argument is as stupid as if Kevin Willard went on ESPN and said they should be seeded ahead of Nova because of yesterday's result.

If the contention is that Kentucky had a stronger overall resume, he has a case. If he's basing it on one overtime result from earlier today, he's a myopic imbecile.

I agree with Cal that their game was completely meaningless today as are all Sunday games.

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Re: Tourney Brackets
« Reply #58 on: March 13, 2016, 06:52:12 PM »
Disagree. Neither should take precedence. Head to head should not be a metric at all because when most of the 351 eligible teams don't play head to head.

What matters is overall resume. Cal's argument is as stupid as if Kevin Willard went on ESPN and said they should be seeded ahead of Nova because of yesterday's result.

If the contention is that Kentucky had a stronger overall resume, he has a case. If he's basing it on one overtime result from earlier today, he's a myopic imbecile.
Cal's point was he has no clue what they look at.  Is it RPI? road schedule? non conference? conference?

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« Reply #59 on: March 13, 2016, 06:55:52 PM »
I agree with Cal that their game was completely meaningless today as are all Sunday games.

That's always been the case and that's the fault of the conferences that schedule games on Sunday. Conference tournament games have always been overrated by fans and pundits.
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« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2016, 06:57:58 PM »
Cuse was 19-13, including 3-9 on the road,  lost five of its last six and was recently caught cheating. But they sometimes sell 25,000 tickets, so they get in. Disgrace.

I don't think they should get in, but not sure I buy the the ticket argument.  They are being sent to St. Louis....not sure that is going to do anything for tickets.  They shouldn't be in because they were busted and their coach on the sidelines because they got busted. 

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« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2016, 07:05:26 PM »
Agree.  Did UK beat A&M like three times this year?  Yet A&M gets the 3 seed and UK the 4 seed?

They split the season series. Both games went to OT.

A&M 5-0 against top 50 RPI
Kentucky 2-2

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« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2016, 07:08:01 PM »
They played twice.  Once at A&M, where they won a close 2 pt game at home.  The other on a neutral site, Kentucky won.

Neutral site victory should take precedence.

Kentucky also won in overtime.
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« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2016, 07:09:51 PM »
They split the season series. Both games went to OT.

A&M 5-0 against top 50 RPI
Kentucky 2-2

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« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2016, 07:18:57 PM »
Hilarious it was leaked.  CBS punished for dragging out the sleeper of a selection show.


Thats horrible. 19-13, woof

A final snub whine from Boeheim would be more fitting than gifting him a 10 seed.



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« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2016, 10:33:45 PM »
Didn't have a computer at the time, but watched the show.  Big snub that not ONE of the 5 CBS analysts had a Big East team in their final 4.  I know I'm a homer for the BEast, but would have though someone would have mentioned Nova or X.

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« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2016, 10:40:05 PM »
Didn't have a computer at the time, but watched the show.  Big snub that not ONE of the 5 CBS analysts had a Big East team in their final 4.  I know I'm a homer for the BEast, but would have though someone would have mentioned Nova or X.

Hope the BEast represents well.

Xavier's draw is insanely tough. Can't see them making it out of that bracket. Trade places with Michigan State or Oklahoma and I'd pick them to make the Final Four. But UNC, West Virginia, and Kentucky could quite possibly be the toughest 1, 3, and 4 seeds in the tournament.

And Kansas is the most proven team in the field with Nova getting a really tough 7 seed in Iowa in the 2nd round.
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« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2016, 10:45:31 PM »
Xavier's draw is insanely tough. Can't see them making it out of that bracket. Trade places with Michigan State or Oklahoma and I'd pick them to make the Final Four. But UNC, West Virginia, and Kentucky could quite possibly be the toughest 1, 3, and 4 seeds in the tournament.

And Kansas is the most proven team in the field with Nova getting a really tough 7 seed in Iowa in the 2nd round.

Total joke that nova and Xavier are not swapped.

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« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2016, 01:19:22 AM »
Xavier's draw is insanely tough. Can't see them making it out of that bracket. Trade places with Michigan State or Oklahoma and I'd pick them to make the Final Four. But UNC, West Virginia, and Kentucky could quite possibly be the toughest 1, 3, and 4 seeds in the tournament.

And Kansas is the most proven team in the field with Nova getting a really tough 7 seed in Iowa in the 2nd round.

Yea, Nova got a rough one. Michigan St is gonna cruise on into the Final 4. Death, taxes, Izzo in March.