IUPUI thoughts

[tower912]

1.  IIRC, third youngest team in D1.   It shows. 
2.  Looking for a leader.  A flash here, a flash there.    Looking for anyone to play consistently. 
3.  Makes me laugh hearing how tough MU's schedule is from the announcers after all of the kvetching around here.    Does anyone feel we have too many cupcakes now?
4.   Italy was fool's gold.   Forget about Italy.   All it did was skew expectations.
5.  Other teams can shoot 3's.  And have guys who can make senior plays.  So jealous. 
6.  Zone is better than man right now.  Throw in some 3/4 pressure to slow the opponent down.
7.  Missing too many lay ups and then giving up too many.   Two games worth. 
8.  Too many turnovers, too many boneheaded plays,  from the 'experienced' guards. 
9.  The thing is, there are moments.   Sandy for a minute.   Haanif for a minute.
10.   MU will get better.   But there is so far to go with all of these young players.   Time to temper expectations and look for growth. 
11.  Really wanted a floor slap with 2 minutes to go. 
12.  Would have loved to see Carlino out there at the end.  Because there aren't any experienced finishers out there. 
13.  Need more paint touches.   Got away from feeding the bigs.   
14.  But IUPUI helped MU out at the end.  And Wilson finally made a play....
15.  And a win is a win. 

[ecompt]

16. JJJ should not play more than a minute or two per game.
17. Henry is nowhere near ready for the NBA.
18. If they are playing like this in February I will be really concerned.

[PGsHeroes32]

16. JJJ should not play more than a minute or two per game.
17. Henry is nowhere near ready for the NBA.
18. If they are playing like this in February I will be really concerned.

JJJ is erratic. He was one of the only competent guys against Belmont finishing the ball.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Cheatham looks to be far more advanced than Carter at the moment.
Sandy taking a nice step forward
Remember back when Marquette could shoot from outside?  That was nice
Defense looks to be as bad as last year
Was impressed with Wally's defense
Too many bad turnovers and ill advised shots

[nyg]

The good:

Free Throws: 24 for 29
Win

The rest:

3 for 17 from three.  Two games, 9 for 43 (20%)
MU has given up 3 four point plays in two games
20 turnovers
Missed layups
Fischer on defense, oh boy.  Not one personal foul against him, but great offensively 17/10
JJJ = doghouse
Cheatham is the PG....

[willie warrior]

16. JJJ should not play more than a minute or two per game.
17. Henry is nowhere near ready for the NBA.
18. If they are playing like this in February I will be really concerned.

JJJ should play more than 1 minute. Henry will improve and will be big time.

[brandx]

1. You have to be able to make 3's to win. We can't.

2. Duane looks clueless out there. His outside shots have almost no chance of going in. No confidence and missing badly. 1-6 on threes; 5 turnovers.

3. Given up three 4-point plays in 2 games. You shouldn't give up three in a season.

[esotericmindguy]

16. JJJ should not play more than a minute or two per game.
17. Henry is nowhere near ready for the NBA.
18. If they are playing like this in February I will be really concerned.

Nowhere near. You should be an NBA scout....

[ChicosBailBonds]

We settle for 3's way too much.

Henry's 3 point shot is rushed and flat....not an attractive looking stroke.

Henry, stop spinning into your defensive man in the paint....this isn't high school

Our defense....ouch it needs work.

Guys are young, they will get better.  They play hard.   

Someone said last week Iowa was bad.....I hate to see what happens next week when they beat us.

[DJO's Jaw]

Next week? Try 3 days. Not looking good after tonight.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

We settle for 3's way too much.

Henry's 3 point shot is rushed and flat....not an attractive looking stroke.

Henry, stop spinning into your defensive man in the paint....this isn't high school

Our defense....ouch it needs work.

Guys are young, they will get better.  They play hard.   

Someone said last week Iowa was bad.....I hate to see what happens next week when they beat us.

Ooooorrrr on Thursdsy.

[Blackhat]

Seems like Ellenson was handed the job.   I'm not sure he makes our best 5 right now.  His D is lacking.   Hopefully Wojo's evaluation of Ellenson was correct as the season goes on.    He put a lot of eggs in that basket.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Next week? Try 3 days. Not looking good after tonight.

Thanks, maybe I was hoping it was next week. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Seems like Ellenson was handed the job.   I'm not sure he makes our best 5 right now.  His D is lacking.   Hopefully Wojo's evaluation of Ellenson was correct as the season goes on.    He put a lot of eggs in that basket.

Seriously?

[DJO's Jaw]

We need to stick with the zone for awhile. We at least look serviceable on defense running the 2-3.

[GE911]

How does a kid like Wilson go from shooting just over 40% from behind the arc in high school to just under 20% in college?

I mean he is missing wide open looks. He was suppose to be a "shooter" as was JJJ.

We need guards that can shoot, plain and simple.

[brewcity77]

Luke finished through contact multiple times, that was good to see. Defense struggled, but I liked seeing the zone, both that the players did okay with it and that Wojo is still willing to use it. Sandy really had some nice moments, Cheatham has talent but isn't a PG, often just too hesitant initiating the offense.

Negatives as well. Three shooting has been horrible. Way too many turnovers and poor shot choices. Back door was still exploiting us, at least Wally showed willingness to get physical against it.

I'll be very curious to see IUPUI in a few months. The addition of Combs and Osborne will make them a lot more respectable.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

How does a kid like Wilson go from shooting just over 40% from behind the arc in high school to just under 20% in college?

I mean he is missing wide open looks. He was suppose to be a "shooter" as was JJJ.

We need guards that can shoot, plain and simple.

He shot 36% last year. It's been two games. Wow.

[DJO's Jaw]

How does a kid like Wilson go from shooting just over 40% from behind the arc in high school to just under 20% in college?

I mean he is missing wide open looks. He was suppose to be a "shooter" as was JJJ.

We need guards that can shoot, plain and simple.

People go through rough patches. I remember a few years ago, DJO couldn't hit anything from 3 for like half the season. Carlino went through a dry spell last year as well. Hopefully Duane can work his way through it.

[CountryRoads]

MU had success going inside to Fischer early. Not sure why they went away from it right away and shot about three 3's in a row. Also, think Ellenson is better in the post than from the elbow. He needs to be inside more than out.

Duane will never be a consistent player I fear. You will see the mind numbing turnovers and you will see the big shots from him.

I thought the zone looked pretty good for the most part. MU has trouble with closing out on shooters which creates dribble penetration, kick outs, threes, etc. That will be taught to the young players.

Lastly, scary JJJ is the most experienced player by far on the team with 53 games under his belt. He needs to start showing more maturity.

[Warriorfish]

Did Duane change the form on his shot?

His elbow position looks different.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

MU had success going inside to Fischer early. Not sure why they went away from it right away and shot about three 3's in a row.

They started double teaming Fischer in the post. We need our shooters to punish them with threes when they do that.

[brewcity77]

I'm not worried about Duane yet. I remember DJO having 20 at halftime his first year here, I believe in Orlando, and finished the game with...20.

Duane was poor outside, but hit mid-range and deep twos, and 7/15 for 16 points is a fine scoring line any night. He'll be fine.

[WarriorFan]

Did Duane change the form on his shot?

His elbow position looks different.

Yes - I noticed it too.  And he's over-jumping.  Dominic James syndrome.

I'd like to see more focus on the fast break.  There were chances, but they all slow down at the top of the key... or a secondary break with HE/Amin as the trainers - that would be dangerous. 

JJJ - reminds me of Tony Snell.  Too dumb to play a team game.  But Tony Snell can shoot. 

[MarquetteDano]

Point is definitely an issue on this team despite having three players at the spot.  Duane not a natural point and it showed with 5 turnovers.  Carter can play "D' but turns it over.  Cheatham the best option but his man-to-man D needs improvement.  His zone D is much better.