IU likes its vodka

[avid1010]

http://www.wthr.com/story/29867850/two-iu-basketball-players-cited-for-alcohol-possession

[MU82]

Well, shyte ... if you had to live in bumblef@ck for 4 years, you'd need to medicate heavily, too!

[4everwarriors]

If, as a playa, ya chose T-Cubed ta be yo coach, that would drive anyone to drinkin', hey? I think these 2 gentlemen probably controlled themselves better than just 'bout any of us coulda, ai na?

[wadesworld]

If, as a playa, ya chose T-Cubed ta be yo coach, that would drive anyone to drinkin', hey? I think these 2 gentlemen probably controlled themselves better than just 'bout any of us coulda, ai na?

Hear hear.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

If, as a playa, ya chose T-Cubed ta be yo coach, that would drive anyone to drinkin', hey? I think these 2 gentlemen probably controlled themselves better than just 'bout any of us coulda, ai na?

There might be some truth to that.

[tower912]

See the 'Luke Fischer' thread.   

[GoldenWarrior11]

Unfortunate news for Indiana.  Every time it appears they have finally turned a corner, they appear to walk right into a stop sign.  Regardless of whether not these types of incidents should (or should not be) representative upon the head coach, it is very reflective of the basketball program and the leadership in charge.  For whatever reason, whether it is under Tom Crean or Kelvin Sampson, Indiana players seemingly cannot consistently stay out of trouble and out of the news.

Bottom line, the fact remains: Indiana has made just three Sweet 16's since 2000, and has finished a season in the top-25 during that span just four times.  That's not reflective of a Tom Crean, a Kelvin Sampson or a Mike Davis - that is reflective of the legacy of Bobby Knight (a era of success which suggests is not repeatable).

[tower912]

Unfortunate news for Indiana.  Every time it appears they have finally turned a corner, they appear to walk right into a stop sign.  Regardless of whether not these types of incidents should (or should not be) representative upon the head coach, it is very reflective of the basketball program and the leadership in charge.  For whatever reason, whether it is under Tom Crean or Kelvin Sampson, Indiana players seemingly cannot consistently stay out of trouble and out of the news.

Bottom line, the fact remains: Indiana has made just three Sweet 16's since 2000, and has finished a season in the top-25 during that span just four times.  That's not reflective of a Tom Crean, a Kelvin Sampson or a Mike Davis - that is reflective of the legacy of Bobby Knight (a era of success which suggests is not repeatable).

So, you are saying they are no longer elite.    Their basketball program is average.    And they have had an extended run of poor off court decisions by their players.    Fair enough. 

[Anti-Dentite]

Vodka, the clearest of the clear liquors, you'll never let me down.

[#UnleashSean]

Because it only matters when athletes do the drinking, who cares about the other 87% of students who under age drink.

[seakm4]

So, you are saying they are no longer elite.    Their basketball program is average.    And they have had an extended run of poor off court decisions by their players.    Fair enough.

They're absolutely an elite program.  I4

[NavinRJohnson]

If, as a playa, ya chose T-Cubed ta be yo coach, that would drive anyone to drinkin', hey? I think these 2 gentlemen probably controlled themselves better than just 'bout any of us coulda, ai na?

If ya chose T-Cubed ta be yo coach, I can only assume you were hammered when you did it.

[Dawson Rental]

If ya chose T-Cubed ta be yo coach, I can only assume you were hammered when you did it.

Nice!

[ChicosBailBonds]

If ya chose T-Cubed ta be yo coach, I can only assume you were hammered when you did it.

I hear Steve Novak, Dwyane Wade, Travis Diener, Lazar Hayward, DJ, Jerel McNeal, Wes Matthews, etc, etc  are all drunks. 

 

[4everwarriors]

According to IU athletic director Fred Glass, who spoke to reporters on Wednesday morning, McRobbie "read the riot act" to the school's athletic department on Tuesday. Glass said the school had not yet come to decision with regard to discipline for either Holt or Bryant, but he had discussed their situations with head coach Tom Crean.

"What I do not want to see is any more stories of repeated student misbehavior," McRobbie told members of the athletic department, according to meeting notes obtained by the Indy Star. "They embarrass the university, they embarrass all of you in Athletics, and they are a complete distraction from our primary role as an educational institution.

"This misbehavior simply has to stop. I expect all of you to ensure that my message is heard loud and clear by all student athletes."

In the last two years, Indiana's basketball program has had 11 citations, arrests or drug suspensions, according to a report from the Indy Star, which has left many fans and alumni wondering whether it's time for McRobbie to intervene.



Looks like the chit's 'bout ta hit the fan in Bloomin'ton, ai na?

[tower912]

In the last two years, Indiana's basketball program has had 11 citations, arrests or drug suspensions, according to a report from the Indy Star, which has left many fans and alumni wondering whether it's time for McRobbie to intervene.

Trying to imagine the squirmy outrage if MU had those stats under Buzz. 

[naginiF]

Trying to imagine the squirmy outrage if MU had those stats under Buzz.

or today.......one might start "loosing confidence" in Wojo and staff.

[MUsoxfan]

I don't know why anyone would ever care about a college student busted for underage drinking. Those of us that weren't busted should consider ourselves lucky

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I don't know why anyone would ever care about a college student busted for underage drinking. Those of us that weren't busted should consider ourselves lucky

it's not the underage drinking, it's the lack of oversight, discipline and institutional control at the Indiana land grant University.

[wadesworld]

it's not the underage drinking, it's the lack of oversight, discipline and institutional control at the Indiana land grant University.

Nailed that one.

Squirmy stuff going on in Bloomington.

[keefe]

[MUsoxfan]

it's not the underage drinking, it's the lack of oversight, discipline and institutional control at the Indiana land grant University.

I hate Crean and IU as much as the next guy. Let's just be realistic

[tower912]

I don't actually care about this.   Just enjoying it. 

[Anti-Dentite]

That is a hilarious picture, it sums up everything I think of the tanned one.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Sounds like McRobbie put out a final documented warning on someone's termination agreement out clause.

[MU82]

I hear Steve Novak, Dwyane Wade, Travis Diener, Lazar Hayward, DJ, Jerel McNeal, Wes Matthews, etc, etc  are all drunks. 

 

Marquette is such a superior institution that it was able to attract sober students despite the presence of Your Boy.

[source?]

Vodka? Bunch of commies. What's wrong with a good ol' American bourbon?

[NavinRJohnson]

Sounds like McRobbie put out a final documented warning on someone's termination agreement out clause.

Eh. He's not going anywhere. Actually, if they were to somehow fail to make the tournament this year (or fail to get a decent seed or make some noise) given the high expectations, they probably will have to make a move, but that seems unlikely.

[mu-rara]

I have never been a big Crean supporter.  Was glad when he left.  Have always thought that Chicos over the top support was cooky. 

I was at an event a few months ago and was introduced to a former player by some common friends.  Player tells a humorous story involving the player missing a summer workout that was sorta scheduled but sorta not.  I assumed from way the story was coming out that the player was gonna come down hard on CTC.  While he acknowledged that Crean was a dick about the situation, he went out of his way to praise the guy.

Helped me understand Chicos, and the players, views a little better.

[4everwarriors]

Sure that wasn't Riley you was talkin' ta, hey?

[mu-rara]

Sure that wasn't Riley you was talkin' ta, hey?

pretty sure he was taller.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I have never been a big Crean supporter.  Was glad when he left.  Have always thought that Chicos over the top support was cooky. 

I was at an event a few months ago and was introduced to a former player by some common friends.  Player tells a humorous story involving the player missing a summer workout that was sorta scheduled but sorta not.  I assumed from way the story was coming out that the player was gonna come down hard on CTC.  While he acknowledged that Crean was a dick about the situation, he went out of his way to praise the guy.

Helped me understand Chicos, and the players, views a little better.

Sounds like this former player can really spin a yarn.

[keefe]

I hear Steve Novak, Dwyane Wade, Travis Diener, Lazar Hayward, DJ, Jerel McNeal, Wes Matthews, etc, etc  are all drunks. 

 

Like clock work...

The Bail Bondsman to the rescue...

[wadesworld]

Like clock work...

The Bail Bondsman to the rescue...

Just callin' a spade a spade.

[tower912]

David Spade-like?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Marquette is such a superior institution that it was able to attract sober students despite the presence of Your Boy.

Makes you wonder why we struggled so many years before that to do the same. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

Vodka? Bunch of commies. What's wrong with a good ol' American bourbon?

Idaho potato vodka?   

[ChicosBailBonds]

I have never been a big Crean supporter.  Was glad when he left.  Have always thought that Chicos over the top support was cooky. 

I was at an event a few months ago and was introduced to a former player by some common friends.  Player tells a humorous story involving the player missing a summer workout that was sorta scheduled but sorta not.  I assumed from way the story was coming out that the player was gonna come down hard on CTC.  While he acknowledged that Crean was a dick about the situation, he went out of his way to praise the guy.

Helped me understand Chicos, and the players, views a little better.

The irony there is that I think he's a huge dick, but I also have spoken to many of players that played for him, coaches who have coached with him, administrators that have worked with him, etc.  It's a love hate thing.  Many really love the dude, many really hate him.  There's not a lot of middle room.  I think it pisses off people here that not 100% of people hate the guy all the time like some of the posters here do.... and God forbid if you point that out.

8 years later....it is hilarious. 

[wadesworld]

The irony there is that I think he's a huge dick, but I also have spoken to many of players that played for him, coaches who have coached with him, administrators that have worked with him, etc.  It's a love hate thing.  Many really love the dude, many really hate him.  There's not a lot of middle room.  I think it pisses off people here that not 100% of people hate the guy all the time like some of the posters here do.... and God forbid if you point that out.

8 years later....it is hilarious.

What's even funnier is if one single poster would move past the insane defense of a guy he claims he thinks is "a dick" then at least half of the stuff that turns into Tom Crean bashing would stop. I know almost 100% of my Crean bashing would stop. It's just way too fun to see you, without fail, come screaming and crying in your boyfriend's defense, "calling a spade a spade," claiming "inside info" that you just can't share with us but only if we knew what the almighty chicoloop knew then we would understand, but holding another college coach to a complete double standard. As you say, it really is hilarious.

[Jay Bee]

I4 is about winning, not education.

If the team does well this year, great - all is forgiven. If not.. then the sins are worse than they otherwise would have been.

Sliding scale of 'rules' at I4.

Unfortunately for them, TB comes overrated and incredible shooting from outside will be required for their lofty preseason aspirations to be achieved. Could happen, but overrated by most.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Emmitt Holt was dismissed today by Indiana.  No word yet on Bryant.  Front court, considered an area of strength, suddenly becomes super thin.

[Jay Bee]

Emmitt Holt was dismissed today by Indiana.  No word yet on Bryant.  Front court, considered an area of strength, suddenly becomes super thin.

I4 said Holt was dismissed because of the prior incident where Devin Davis (also dismissed) "hit his car."... Odd.. chicos explained to me that Holt was not at fault at all. So why is I4 making it a talking point today?

[tower912]

I hope the young men heed this wake up call and make better decisions going forward.   

[Dr. Blackheart]

I4 said Holt was dismissed because of the prior incident where Devin Davis (also dismissed) "hit his car."... Odd.. chicos explained to me that Holt was not at fault at all. So why is I4 making it a talking point today?

It is a crapshoot down in Btown.  A whole lot of deflections going on.

[tower912]

Nice use of 'deflections'.    Hopefully, somebody is keeping track of them. 

[4everwarriors]

No paint touches, doe, hey?

[wadesworld]

I4 said Holt was dismissed because of the prior incident where Devin Davis (also dismissed) "hit his car."... Odd.. chicos explained to me that Holt was not at fault at all. So why is I4 making it a talking point today?

It's a damn, crying shame that Chicoloop would call a man that did so much for this University a liar.  A disgusting shame, I say.

[ChicosBailBonds]

What's even funnier is if one single poster would move past the insane defense of a guy he claims he thinks is "a dick" then at least half of the stuff that turns into Tom Crean bashing would stop. I know almost 100% of my Crean bashing would stop. It's just way too fun to see you, without fail, come screaming and crying in your boyfriend's defense, "calling a spade a spade," claiming "inside info" that you just can't share with us but only if we knew what the almighty chicoloop knew then we would understand, but holding another college coach to a complete double standard. As you say, it really is hilarious.

LOL

"I start these posts because of one poster"  "I would stop these posts if it wasn't for one poster"   "The one poster makes me do this"

My God

[ChicosBailBonds]

I4 said Holt was dismissed because of the prior incident where Devin Davis (also dismissed) "hit his car."... Odd.. chicos explained to me that Holt was not at fault at all. So why is I4 making it a talking point today?

Read the police report, I said NO FAULT FOUND to Holt for the incident.  Just repeating the facts that were presented by law enforcement.  Davis jumped into the car, Holt was found NO FAULT.

Why do you continue to ignore the police report?  Simple question, really.

Even today's report....NO FAULT FOUND.    http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25286002/indiana-dismisses-sophomore-guard-emmitt-holt

[wadesworld]

LOL

"I start these posts because of one poster"  "I would stop these posts if it wasn't for one poster"   "The one poster makes me do this"

My God

LOL.

Where did I ever say anybody makes me do anything?  Learn to read.  LOL. In fact, I have a blast doing it. LOL.

My God.

[wadesworld]

Read the police report, I said NO FAULT FOUND to Holt for the incident.  Just repeating the facts that were presented by law enforcement.  Davis jumped into the car, Holt was found NO FAULT.

Why do you continue to ignore the police report?  Simple question, really.

Even today's report....NO FAULT FOUND.    http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25286002/indiana-dismisses-sophomore-guard-emmitt-holt

But when the police report says that MU basketball players were not involved in a fight and were simply cited for being physically inside of a club while they were underage...

Just repeating the facts that were presented by law enforcement.

Why do you continue to ignore the police report?  Simple question, really.

But wait, I forgot, you have some crazy, insane, absurd, ridiculous information that is way too inside to share.

LOL.

My God.

LOL.

 

[ChicosBailBonds]

But when the police report says that MU basketball players were not involved in a fight and were simply cited for being physically inside of a club while they were underage...

Just repeating the facts that were presented by law enforcement.

Why do you continue to ignore the police report?  Simple question, really.

But wait, I forgot, you have some crazy, insane, absurd, ridiculous information that is way too inside to share.

LOL.

My God.

LOL.

 

The police reports did NOT say that.  The police reports said an altercation happened between a number of people, including some MU players.  However, the police chose not to cite anyone for the fight.

There is a difference.

My God

LOL

My God.

[ChicosBailBonds]

LOL.

Where did I ever say anybody makes me do anything?  Learn to read.  LOL. In fact, I have a blast doing it. LOL.

My God.

I can read just fine.......Here's what you said "I know almost 100% of my Crean bashing would stop"...... "if one single poster would move past the insane defense of a guy he claims he thinks is "a dick" then at least half of the stuff that turns into Tom Crean bashing would stop."

I can come to no other conclusion than, 'HE MAKES ME DO IT....and because I enjoy it.'


Plenty of great information....I know exactly whom I am calling to the deposition if ever needed.   

Boyfriend?  Truly...are you in 9th grade?

[wadesworld]

I can read just fine.......I know almost 100% of my Crean bashing would stop...... if one single poster would move past the insane defense of a guy he claims he thinks is "a dick" then at least half of the stuff that turns into Tom Crean bashing would stop.

HE MAKES ME DO IT....because I enjoy it.


Plenty of great information....I know exactly whom I am calling to the deposition if ever needed.   

Boyfriend?  Truly...are you in 9th grade?

LOL. My God. You don't know how to read. Truly...are you in 2nd grade?

[wadesworld]

The police reports did NOT say that.  The police reports said an altercation happened between a number of people, including some MU players.  However, the police chose not to cite anyone for the fight.

There is a difference.

My God

LOL

My God.

Do you have these police reports on hand? I'd like to read both the IU and the MU incidents. Or did Fox 6 News tell you this? Lol.

So let me get this straight, the police said that in a brawl at 720 Apartments an MU player caused over $1,500 in medical damages to a victim...yet the police officer didn't cite the MU player for anything besides being in a club under the age of 21?

LOL.

My God.

[NavinRJohnson]

Emmitt Holt was dismissed today by Indiana.  No word yet on Bryant.  Front court, considered an area of strength, suddenly becomes super thin.

Eh. Holt isn't any good, and Bryant isn't going anywhere.

[ChicosBailBonds]

LOL. My God. You don't know how to read. Truly...are you in 2nd grade?

I read just fine, they are your words. 

[Jay Bee]

Read the report re: Davis/Holt.

You have double standards, chicos.

[MU82]

Read the report re: Davis/Holt.

You have double standards, chicos.

Well, duh. When a guy HAS to be right about every single subject -- basketball, investing, guns, bar brawls, social issues, politics, when it's proper to simply not vote, what others believe, whatever -- he will find himself having to twist things a little to fit his multiple narratives.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yes, the police report states MU players in the altercation.  Sorry you don't like what the report says


http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/146453905.html?ipad=y

[ChicosBailBonds]

Read the report re: Davis/Holt.

You have double standards, chicos.

I've pointed you to it now on at least 5 occasions.  "NO FAULT FOUND" for the incident by Holt.  I don't know how many different sources or links you need.  NO FAULT FOUND by Holt.  Davis was found at fault for jumping into the car.  Holt was cited for underage drinking, but NO FAULT FOUND for Holt for the car.

I can continue to provide you with link after link after link.

Please identify the double standard when I'm simply correcting you on this matter.

[Jay Bee]

No, chicos. Your source is media. Read the police report.