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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2015, 06:09:40 PM »
Donald Trump?
Robby Mook?
Wayne LaPierre?

Well, those people heed the advice generated here and with reason.

Scoopers shine when offering political advice, business insight, culinary recommendations, and tale of sexual conquest, fishing prowess, or drinking binges.

But basketball expertise? You gotta be craptin' me...


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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2015, 06:11:49 PM »
WTF is wrong with YOU?

It doesn't matter how any of us assess the value of that tournament. Our opinion is inconsequential. And, more to the point, of exceedingly limited value.

Fact is, the current leadership of Marquette basketball is prohibiting current Marquette players from participating. That is the only opinion that matters.


Right.  Which I acknowledged. 

My point is that you jump on brew, like you always do, for saying that the MPA has value.  If Wojo doesn't think it has *enough* value, that is fine and good by me.  If he doesn't want MU players involved, it's no skin off my back.

But you said this "I have to disagree with this. The Pro Am is playground ball. Nothing more."

You have never been there have you?  So what exactly are you basing this opinion on?  People who have actually been there said it serves a purpose.  People who know a hell of a lot more about basketball than either you or I think it serves a purpose.

So you really know nothing about which you are spouting off - per usual.

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« Reply #77 on: August 20, 2015, 06:37:06 PM »

Right.  Which I acknowledged. 

My point is that you jump on brew, like you always do, for saying that the MPA has value.  If Wojo doesn't think it has *enough* value, that is fine and good by me.  If he doesn't want MU players involved, it's no skin off my back.

But you said this "I have to disagree with this. The Pro Am is playground ball. Nothing more."

You have never been there have you?  So what exactly are you basing this opinion on?  People who have actually been there said it serves a purpose.  People who know a hell of a lot more about basketball than either you or I think it serves a purpose.

So you really know nothing about which you are spouting off - per usual.

I haven't been there. Never had any interest. But I have spoken to Scoopers who have any they say it is fun to watch but of no value from an instructional point of view.

More importantly, the current Marquette coach does not see any value in it and has acted accordingly. That is all that matters.

I have never claimed any basketball expertise. Others here have.

Let me ask: You took issue with Ners' supposed expertise and cited coaching decisions to support your objections. So why do you accept the opinion of Brew who also claims great insight and expertise and argues against a coaching decision?

You need to be more consistent in your objections. And for what its worth Ners at least played the game at some level.   



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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #78 on: August 20, 2015, 06:54:15 PM »
The idea that people who watched the pro am are in any way qualified to judge its value is completely moronic. What qualifies them? The $5 admission fee? The fact that Buzz was sweating through his shirt in the next section of the bleachers?

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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #79 on: August 20, 2015, 07:13:28 PM »
The idea that people who watched the pro am are in any way qualified to judge its value is completely moronic. What qualifies them? The $5 admission fee? The fact that Buzz was sweating through his shirt in the next section of the bleachers?

Those who spend the $5 are more qualified than those who don't.

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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #80 on: August 20, 2015, 07:33:54 PM »
Thought it was free, hey?
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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #81 on: August 20, 2015, 07:39:36 PM »
Those who spend the $5 are more qualified than those who don't.

That is absurd. Buying a ticket vests authority and knowledge?

You have mentioned you fly on commercial aircraft. How many credits is that towards your BS in Aeronautical Engineering?

I place my faith in the judgment of the man running the program. If the Head Coach of the Men's Basketball team has prohibited his players from participating in something it is with reason.

I have little faith in poseurs who possess at best a superficial understanding of the sport and can therefore offer little more than uninformed opinion. Buying a $5 ticket does not increase one's ability to gauge the technical merits of what transpires on the court.

I would not expect Wojo to offer me insight on heat transfer or chemical reforming. I am confident he would not expect me to offer advice on how to develop his players.

We get that you must be friends with our self-proclaimed insider. Don't let that cloud your judgment on actual expertise.


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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #82 on: August 20, 2015, 07:40:35 PM »
Thought it was free, hey?

Well, Doc, you gets what you pays for, hey??

How much you charging these days for a quick yank??


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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #83 on: August 20, 2015, 07:44:08 PM »
That is absurd. Buying a ticket vests authority and knowledge?

Really I didn't think I actually had to explain it to you.  But I will...

I trust the opinions of those who are in attendance more than those who are not.

Got it?



We get that you must be friends with our self-proclaimed insider. Don't let that cloud your judgment on actual expertise.

That has nothing to do with it.  Some coaches think it has more value than others.  Those who I know who have attended says it has *some* value. 

You are the first person I know who is so knowledgeable about something that you have actually never witnessed.
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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #84 on: August 20, 2015, 07:55:00 PM »
Really I didn't think I actually had to explain it to you.  But I will...

I trust the opinions of those who are in attendance more than those who are not.

Got it?

Fine. I got it. You believe your buddy's opinion on how much Gardner and Otule improved by playing in that tournament. Because, well, because he was in the stands watching them grow and progress before his discerning eye. You value the perspective of a self-proclaimed basketball expert and self-anointed Marquette Hoops insider. I got it.

I place my belief in the judgment of the man with actual expertise on this matter and, perhaps most important, responsibility for the training and development of his players. Wojo has prohibited his players from participating this year and every year from now on for a reason.   

You listen to your sources and I will listen to mine.

Got it?   


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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #85 on: August 20, 2015, 07:58:10 PM »
The idea that people who watched the pro am are in any way qualified to judge its value is completely moronic. What qualifies them? The $5 admission fee? The fact that Buzz was sweating through his shirt in the next section of the bleachers?

There's no admission fee.
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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #86 on: August 20, 2015, 07:59:27 PM »
Nevermind.  Just gonna let it go.
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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #87 on: August 20, 2015, 08:00:55 PM »
Well, Doc, you gets what you pays for, hey??

How much you charging these days for a quick yank??



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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #88 on: August 20, 2015, 08:08:45 PM »


Not enough, ai na?

who does the yankin' in your office - you or the assistant?


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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #89 on: August 20, 2015, 08:12:11 PM »
who does the yankin' in your office - you or the assistant?

If his assistant is cute, Doc is the one usually doing the yankin' ai'na?

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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #90 on: August 20, 2015, 08:15:30 PM »
Nevermind.  Just gonna let it go.

Sultan

I actually enjoy your posts. I love the sparring. You can be overbearing at times but you add a lot to the Scoop experience.


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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #91 on: August 20, 2015, 08:38:27 PM »
Y'all are disgustin', hey?a
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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #92 on: August 20, 2015, 08:39:08 PM »
Sultan

I actually enjoy your posts. I love the sparring. You can be overbearing at times but you add a lot to the Scoop experience.


Ditto.  But I'm not going to keep repeating myself.  Even I get bored with that...

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« Reply #93 on: August 20, 2015, 08:47:38 PM »
Sultan

I actually enjoy your posts. I love the sparring. You can be overbearing at times but you add a lot to the Scoop experience.

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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #94 on: August 20, 2015, 08:53:16 PM »

How much you charging these days for a quick yank??

Hank the Yank, non รจ?

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Re: Thoughts from Italy
« Reply #95 on: August 20, 2015, 09:15:15 PM »
Well, those people heed the advice generated here and with reason.

Scoopers shine when offering political advice, business insight, culinary recommendations, and tale of sexual conquest, fishing prowess, or drinking binges.

But basketball expertise? You gotta be craptin' me...

That reminds me, after Trump is elected President invest all your money in uranium.  Then go to Real Chili with some gal you found on Ashley Madison.  Then the next day take her fly fishing and split a case of Blatz while you discuss if John Olivier is the real Hoopaloop.

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« Reply #96 on: August 20, 2015, 11:09:03 PM »
Y'all are disgustin', hey?a

Doc, is it true you have Dawn Spinell doin' the yankin'?  If so, when's your next opening?

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« Reply #97 on: August 21, 2015, 02:32:17 AM »
That reminds me, after Trump is elected President invest all your money in uranium.  Then go to Real Chili with some gal you found on Ashley Madison.  Then the next day take her fly fishing and split a case of Blatz while you discuss if John Olivier is the real Hoopaloop.

yea, that's a fairly typical day in the life of Scoop...


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« Reply #98 on: August 21, 2015, 07:27:31 AM »
Doc, is it true you have Dawn Spinell doin' the yankin'?  If so, when's your next opening?


Pretty sure ol' DS is in New York, hey?
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« Reply #99 on: August 21, 2015, 08:05:26 AM »
yea, that's a fairly typical day in the life of Scoop...
back in the day, Blatz was the beer of choice for all the cheap beer drinkers.
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