Broeker taking swings at Bert

[keefe]

Whenever Broeker talks about Wojo he always throws in comments that are deliberate jabs at Bert:

"Doing it the right way"

"Bringing in high character guys"

"Laying a strong foundation"

"Building a program correctly"


I heard Bert had worn out his welcome but I think the dysfunction was even greater than any of us outsiders appreciated.

[chapman]

Maybe he's a St. Louis Cardinals fan.

[MU86NC]

If you had your eyes closed doesn't  Broeker sound just like Mac...

[naginiF]

totally agree with you but the only reason to parade out those quotes over and over is for the recruiting process with a bonus towards jabbing the Lonesome Country Cowboy (close enough?).

isn't the objective mutually beneficial as the audience is the AAU pipeline?

[GoldenWarrior11]

I really hope there are books in my lifetime about the behind the scenes stuff during Buzz Williams' tenure.  For such a wacky individual, who experienced a great deal of success here, I have to imagine there are plenty of stories that just add to his quirks.  I, personally, would love to know more about it.

[wadesworld]

I really hope there are books in my lifetime about the behind the scenes stuff during Buzz Williams' tenure.  For such a wacky individual, who experienced a great deal of success here, I have to imagine there are plenty of stories that just add to his quirks.  I, personally, would love to know more about it.

He neither liked to flush nor park his car.

[GooooMarquette]

He neither liked to flush nor park his car.

Wonder if there's a connection.  Was his car a piece of $hit?

[chapman]

We could have gone on a foreign trip any time during the past five years.  Did it cross anyone else's mind that perhaps the administration didn't trust sending the team overseas with Buzz and staff for 10 days?  Not like money was an issue, and not like Buzz to pass on the extra practice time.

[Lennys Tap]

I understand the desire (need?) for MU fans to put the best possible face on the hoops program, but until (if?) Wojo has "Buzz like" success on the court these are empty platitudes. "Doing it the right way" is great as long as it doesn't turn into an excuse for mediocrity. I'm hopeful, but it's a little early to put Wojo in the coaching hall of fame.

[wadesworld]

I understand the desire (need?) for MU fans to put the best possible face on the hoops program, but until (if?) Wojo has "Buzz like" success on the court these are empty platitudes. "Doing it the right way" is great as long as it doesn't turn into an excuse for mediocrity. I'm hopeful, but it's a little early to put Wojo in the coaching hall of fame.

He'll get there.

[Lennys Tap]

He'll get there.

Here's hoping.

[willie warrior]

Whenever Broeker talks about Wojo he always throws in comments that are deliberate jabs at Bert:

"Doing it the right way"

"Bringing in high character guys"

"Laying a strong foundation"

"Building a program correctly"


I heard Bert had worn out his welcome but I think the dysfunction was even greater than any of us outsiders appreciated.

Correction, Keefe--the phony downhome lonesome cowboy only wore out his welcome with a few. There are still some and they know who they are, that were baffled by Buzz's BS to this day and still revere his butt.

[GGGG]

We could have gone on a foreign trip any time during the past five years.  Did it cross anyone else's mind that perhaps the administration didn't trust sending the team overseas with Buzz and staff for 10 days?  Not like money was an issue, and not like Buzz to pass on the extra practice time.

Buzz may have actually preferred the focus on conditioning versus playing overseas. 

We could have gone on a foreign trip any time during the past five years.  Did it cross anyone else's mind that perhaps the administration didn't trust sending the team overseas with Buzz and staff for 10 days?  Not like money was an issue, and not like Buzz to pass on the extra practice time.

Why?  What was Buzz doing to do?

[GGGG]

I understand the desire (need?) for MU fans to put the best possible face on the hoops program, but until (if?) Wojo has "Buzz like" success on the court these are empty platitudes. "Doing it the right way" is great as long as it doesn't turn into an excuse for mediocrity. I'm hopeful, but it's a little early to put Wojo in the coaching hall of fame.

Yep.  Love what I see so far, but there is still a lot of work to be done.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Some seem to be suggesting not doing it the right way, but getting that success is ok.

Sorry, not in that camp.   Just win baby is an excuse.

Both can be achieved and cutting corners, being unethical, etc, etc doesn't get swept under the rug because of wins.  That is exactly how we shouldn't be doing things.

[wadesworld]

Some seem to be suggesting not doing it the right way, but getting that success is ok.

Sorry, not in that camp.   Just win baby is an excuse.

Both can be achieved and cutting corners, being unethical, etc, etc doesn't get swept under the rug because of wins.  That is exactly how we shouldn't be doing things.

So mass drug use, underage drinking, drinking and driving, etc. are "doing things the right way," a'ina?

[The Lens]

Just watched game 3.  This right way / right players stuff needs to stop.  Either that or stop posting endless tributes / pandering to Jimmy, Jae & Dwight on social media. 

You can't have it both ways. 

[Lennys Tap]

Some seem to be suggesting not doing it the right way, but getting that success is ok.

Sorry, not in that camp.   Just win baby is an excuse.

Both can be achieved and cutting corners, being unethical, etc, etc doesn't get swept under the rug because of wins.  That is exactly how we shouldn't be doing things.

BS. Marquette has never been "Just win, baby". Ever. Your other two alma maters? Indiana (post Mike Davis) and Kansas (pretty much forever) - now there's some genuine examples of anything goes.

[ChicosBailBonds]

There's a reason schools like Va. Tech and SMU who historically have never won went after a certain type of coach.  The NCAA is littered with examples like this in football and basketball over the decades.  The quick fix...Just win baby....we'll worry about the fallout down the road if anyone gets wise.

[wadesworld]

There's a reason schools like Va. Tech and SMU who historically have never won went after a certain type of coach.  The NCAA is littered with examples like this in football and basketball over the decades.  The quick fix...Just win baby....we'll worry about the fallout down the road if anyone gets wise.

So what you're saying is they couldn't give 2 craps about the coaches resume as long as they were cheaters? (Which 1 has never been found to be, by the way).

You always have some interesting takes, Chicos. That's for sure.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

So what you're saying is they couldn't give 2 craps about the coaches resume as long as they were cheaters? (Which 1 has never been found to be, by the way).

You always have some interesting takes, Chicos. That's for sure.

To be honest I'm in that sort of camp. Don't know if it's the competitive streak in me but I wouldn't give two craps if the entire MU team were fellons if they won a natty.

Also, many of those problems that some players have are way over exaggurated. One of my dad's former players actually brought a gun with him to practice one time but couldn't have been a nicer person to me and is a good friend of mine.different strokes I guess.

[keefe]

One of my dad's former players actually brought a gun with him to practice

And? So?

Gary Brell cut down the nets with a switchblade!

That, in one shining moment, captured the essence of Marquette hoops under Alfred McGuire.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

And? So?

Gary Brell cut down the nets with a switchblade!

That, in one shining moment, captured the essence of Marquette hoops under Alfred McGuire.

That's what I'm saying. I don't care how "thug" players supposidly are, so long as they win.

[g0lden3agle]

That's what I'm saying. I don't care how "thug" players supposidly are, so long as they win.

I'm having a hard time keeping track of how people define things like "just win baby win" and "doing it the right way". Are people concerned about the mere fact that Buzz was bringing in guys from less than stellar background? Or is it more like what he was allowing them to do while they were here, how he went about the recruiting process, etc?

[The Lens]

I'm having a hard time keeping track of how people define things like "just win baby win" and "doing it the right way". Are people concerned about the mere fact that Buzz was bringing in guys from less than stellar background? Or is it more like what he was allowing them to do while they were here, how he went about the recruiting process, etc?

Well that's the thing.   It's both.  Apparently some players like Jae should never have been admitted and there also are things that went on that are so unspeakable that only Chicos and his friends know what they are but they refuse to speak about them because you know, they're unspeakable.