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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23350 on: November 22, 2019, 05:19:20 AM »
I think this is the year we have to show an ability to win. Not next year. Everything is in our favor. We have an experienced team, a true superstar in Markus, A bunch of athletic kids and the Big East  is only going to get tougher next year with the addition of U Conn. No more wait till next year. The loss to Wisconsin was a loss to a rival in an away game. We should still be owning opponents at home and winning more than we lose in conference.

I recognize reality is Wojo got his job extended another year because of the recruiting class. He needed to deliver on the recruits and he did and still has more irons in the fire. However the fan base needs to keep demanding excellence on the court.
Would be nice to get excellence on the court.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23351 on: November 22, 2019, 05:22:37 AM »
I recognize reality is Wojo got his job extended another year because of the recruiting class.

This isn't exactly true. While I would agree that he got extended in large part for recruiting purposes, it wasn't because of just one class, and definitely not because of the class he had in place. Wojo got his extension in May, more than two months before our first 2020 recruit committed to Marquette. The extension allowed him to tell these recruits he would be here their entire college careers, but it's not like they had to give him an extension so committed players wouldn't back out.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23352 on: November 22, 2019, 09:20:08 AM »
Then there's this: Contract extensions for college coaches are pretty much meaningless.

It won't stop MU from firing Wojo if administration thinks he can't get the job done.

And it won't stop Wojo from leaving if he wants to go elsewhere.

It is classic "window dressing." It's supposed to send the exact message brewski described, but by now is anybody really fooled by these things?
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23353 on: November 22, 2019, 09:22:04 AM »
He doesn't need to win this year. But I expect the team to win this year!

I do too. We missed a lot of open shots against UW, even Markus. Despite the loss the team was looking for the open man and not just Markus which I hope bodes well for the rest of the season.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23354 on: November 22, 2019, 09:57:13 AM »
Then there's this: Contract extensions for college coaches are pretty much meaningless.

It won't stop MU from firing Wojo if administration thinks he can't get the job done.

And it won't stop Wojo from leaving if he wants to go elsewhere.

It is classic "window dressing." It's supposed to send the exact message brewski described, but by now is anybody really fooled by these things?

agreed, if a guy doesn't nominally have 4/5 years on his contract you've basically fired him

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23355 on: November 22, 2019, 10:30:05 AM »
Then there's this: Contract extensions for college coaches are pretty much meaningless.

It won't stop MU from firing Wojo if administration thinks he can't get the job done.

And it won't stop Wojo from leaving if he wants to go elsewhere.

It is classic "window dressing." It's supposed to send the exact message brewski described, but by now is anybody really fooled by these things?

It can, however, affect the payout amount

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23356 on: November 22, 2019, 10:42:23 AM »
Plus Akanno.

Until Akanno shows something on the floor and remains potential, he's not going to scare off a grad transfer guard.
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You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23357 on: November 22, 2019, 11:00:32 AM »
It can, however, affect the payout amount

True dat. But in most cases (not all, but most), that doesn't matter, either.
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23358 on: November 22, 2019, 12:20:57 PM »

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23359 on: November 22, 2019, 01:06:17 PM »
Mane sounds like a serious pipedream  Is there ANY reason to think we would have ANY kind of advantage or track to get him? 

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« Reply #23360 on: November 22, 2019, 01:12:48 PM »
Mane sounds like a serious pipedream  Is there ANY reason to think we would have ANY kind of advantage or track to get him? 


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« Reply #23361 on: November 22, 2019, 01:16:25 PM »

We have his only scheduled official visit.

Also he is likely a 2nd rounder right now based on projections. Needs to develop on finishing and some shooting. An extra year of development could put him more into late lottery.
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23362 on: November 22, 2019, 01:22:21 PM »
To be fair, I’m sure those 20+ scouts are there to watch more players than just Karim Mane.
I mean, OK, maybe he's secretly a serial killer who's pulled the wool over our eyes with his good deeds and smooth jumper - Pakuni (on Markus Howard)

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23363 on: November 22, 2019, 01:25:29 PM »
Some people thought Garcia was a pipe dream when the blue bloods starting recruiting him.....

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« Reply #23364 on: November 22, 2019, 01:40:17 PM »
Mane sounds like a serious pipedream Is there ANY reason to think we would have ANY kind of advantage or track to get him?

This mentality needs to change starting NOW...They landed an out of state 5* in Garcia. Now it's time to start taking them seriously nationally recruiting wise. They made a statement. The sky is the limit, anyone is attainable.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23365 on: November 22, 2019, 01:42:23 PM »
Some people thought Garcia was a pipe dream when the blue bloods starting recruiting him.....

Yep. I like the way Wojo gets a prospect in his sights and goes after him, no matter the competition. Yes, ultimately, some of them end up at bluebloods or other good programs, but Wojo has landed our fair share, too.

That's the advantage of having that big basketball budget that some Scoopers love to talk about. IMHO, Wojo uses it very well for recruiting, and I want him to keep doing so.
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23366 on: November 22, 2019, 01:44:29 PM »
This mentality needs to change starting NOW...They landed an out of state 5* in Garcia. Now it's time to start taking them seriously nationally recruiting wise. They made a statement. The sky is the limit, anyone is attainable.

I like the new guru. Got some spunk and fire.
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23367 on: November 22, 2019, 01:50:09 PM »
This mentality needs to change starting NOW...They landed an out of state 5* in Garcia. Now it's time to start taking them seriously nationally recruiting wise. They made a statement. The sky is the limit, anyone is attainable.

That would not include Mane... had you said internationally...
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23368 on: November 22, 2019, 02:06:52 PM »
Was about to type the same thing!! Cheers to the new guru!!  ;D ;D

I like the new guru. Got some spunk and fire.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23369 on: November 22, 2019, 02:10:17 PM »
This mentality needs to change starting NOW...They landed an out of state 5* in Garcia. Now it's time to start taking them seriously nationally recruiting wise. They made a statement. The sky is the limit, anyone is attainable.

Not to mention that getting a player like Garcia could make getting a player like Mane much easier.  Mane's speed and touch at the hoop reminds me a lot of D-Wade.  With a rangy big like Garcia unclogging the lane, his 2 pt % could be insane, and dump-offs to Dawson would give him some great assist numbers, too.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23370 on: November 22, 2019, 02:12:30 PM »
Mane far from pipe dream 

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« Reply #23371 on: November 22, 2019, 02:23:07 PM »
Wojo simply needs to point at Howard to sell Karim on MU.  I don't think many other programs could guarantee that kind of focal point of the offense and actually have proof of it.

Also, the fact he is from Canada may make it easier to recruit him to Milwaukee than a kid from California or something similar.  Let's hope Wojo and Co. get it done.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23372 on: November 22, 2019, 02:37:06 PM »
Transitive Theory of Recruiting

Cadougan leads to Koby leads to Chartouny leads to Karim

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/19
« Reply #23373 on: November 22, 2019, 02:50:31 PM »
Good points.  Obviously i hope we have a chance.  wasn't Garcia at the Nova game last year?  :)

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« Reply #23374 on: November 22, 2019, 02:56:25 PM »
What's the mentality now? We got garcia so now we should be able to recruit like UK? KU? We have a shot mane, but nothing wrong with asking about our chances