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Author Topic: Cyclone recruit Noskowiak says Hoiberg decision won't change his commitment  (Read 3864 times)

Tugg Speedman

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Didn't he say the same thing after Brent left?

Cyclone recruit Noskowiak says Hoiberg decision won't change his commitment
6:37 p.m. CDT May 28, 2015

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/basketball-mens/2015/05/28/iowa-state-basketball-recruit-noskowiak/28081907/

Nick Noskowiak says he's a Cyclone, regardless of who coaches the men's basketball team next season.

"Nothing's changed," Noskowiak said Thursday during a phone interview with the Register.

Noskowiak, a guard and former star at Sun Prairie (Wis.) High School, was talking shortly after the Chicago Bulls fired coach Tom Thibodeau on Thursday. Like everyone else, he's aware of the growing speculation that Fred Hoiberg quickly will become the Bulls' next coach.

"I was excited to be playing with a bunch of really good and talented players back when I committed, and that's the way I feel now," Noskowiak said. "I'm going to a good place. It's where I want to be."

Current Iowa State players were advised by administrators Thursday not to comment if approached by reporters.

"When I get back on campus," Georges Niang wrote in a text message.

Niang is back home in Boston. He is expected to return to campus in two weeks, but last week told the Register:

"Regardless of what happens, I will be wearing a Cyclone uniform and nothing can change that, and I know a lot of my teammates feel the same way.

"This university has done so much for me that I want to finish my career here."

Hoiberg did not return messages Thursday.

"I haven't talked to (Hoiberg) since I committed," Noskowiak said of that April 26 morning. "I've texted with him a little since then, mostly just wishing him well in his recovering (from heart surgery) and hoping he gets back to full strength quickly."

Has he point-blank asked Hoiberg if he will be his coach?

"I have not," Noskowiak said. "When I committed, I knew that's always an option. He's a great coach. People want great coaches like coach Hoiberg."

Michigan graduate transfer target Max Bielfeldt said Thursday he's going to wait before deciding among Iowa State, Indiana and Nebraska.

"I think I'm going to wait a little longer to see what comes out of the Bulls' coaching vacancy and coach Hoiberg," Bielfeldt responded in a text to the Register.

What if Hoiberg goes to the Bulls?

"I think I will wait to see who takes over the position," he wrote.

Iowa State has two scholarships available for next season.

Iowa State assistant coach T.J. Otzelberger said Tuesday that this message to recruits is this:

"They're coming to Iowa State University, a place rich in tradition, one of the greatest home courts in college basketball," Otzelberger said. "Fred's the head coach. You want student-athletes to come to schools for the university, not only what may be going on for the coach."

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Nick's decision to attend ISU had little to do with Hoiberg anyway.

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Nick's decision to attend ISU had little to do with Hoiberg anyway.

Any port in a storm?

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Any port in a storm?


It had to do with Ozelberger.

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It had to do with Ozelberger.

If Hoiberg leaves, and Ozelberger doesn't get the big chair, and the new guy wants his own people forcing Ozelberger to leave, what happens then?

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If Hoiberg leaves, and Ozelberger doesn't get the big chair, and the new guy wants his own people forcing Ozelberger to leave, what happens then?


No idea but I am reasonably certain that he will get the head gig.

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No idea but I am reasonably certain that he will get the head gig.

Even if Jeff Hornacek says he is interested?

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Even if Jeff Hornacek says he is interested?

If I'm Hornacek there isn't a chance in hell that I'm leaving the NBA for that job.

But what do I know ... except for that the most successful Iowa State coaches leave that job for the NBA!
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If I'm Hornacek there isn't a chance in hell that I'm leaving the NBA for that job.

But what do I know ... except for that the most successful Iowa State coaches leave that job for the NBA!

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/5/31/8693961/phoenix-suns-hornacek-may-be-feeling-tipsy-as-dominoes-fall

Speculation has abounded for months, the prophesy foretold. Thibodeau out. Hoiberg to Chicago. Hornacek to Iowa State. And now as the first two predictions are coming true we have to wonder if the final one is right around the corner.

Phoenix Suns coach Jeff Hornacek just might have to make a big decision in the coming days, and there's no indication that Suns owner Robert Sarver will lift a finger to give Hornacek more reasons to stay.

Currently, Hornacek is tied with a four other inexperienced coaches at $2 million per year, the lowest head coaching salaries in the entire league. Each of the "$2 million club" were hired in the same offseason. Hornacek, Brett Brown, Mike Budenholzer, Steve Clifford and Dave Joerger were all hired in the summer of 2013.

Each of the "$2 million club" was promoted to their first-ever head coaching gig from an assistant position. Even Miami's Eric Spoelstra and Indiana's Frank Vogel, by now surely on their second contracts after getting their first gig like these guys, aren't rolling in the dough despite deep playoff success. Just like in any business, those you promote are the ones to whom you give the least amount of money.

Underpaid

All the other NBA coaches make more money because the owners had to compete with each other for the "shiny new penny".

Just-retired player Jason Kidd, who'd never even lifted a clipboard and worn a tie at the same time during a game, got more money from the Nets and later the Milwaukee Bucks ($2.5 million per year). Steve Kerr and Derek Fisher each got $5 million per year. None of the three had ever coached anyone before, on any level.

Experienced coaches hired away from other leagues get more money too. Boston hired Butler's Brad Stevens that same summer of 2013 to a contract twice as long worth $3.6 million per year. David Blatt was given something north of $3.5 million per year to leave Russia to coach LeBron.

If you thought that was a lot of money, this summer's hires of first-time NBA coaches is putting the last two years to shame.

Rumors popped up last night that Iowa State's Fred Hoiberg is finalizing a five-year deal with the Chicago Bulls worth somewhere around $5 million per year to be their coach. Billy Donovan was hired by the Oklahoma City Thunder last month for about $6 million per year.

Add in the coaching retreads - all making significantly more than the $2 million club - and you've got a dozen coaching hires just in the last couple offseasons that have to leave guys like Hornacek scratching his head.

He knows what's going on.

    "If you look what happened to the NBA coaching salaries," he told Burns and Gambo the other day on ArizonaSports radio, "I don't know if there was a directive or whatever, but I saw that the average salary of an NBA coach is still less than what it was six years ago. So how does the salary go down?"

The average coaching salary right now is something just north of $4.4 million per year. The 5 members of the "$2 million club" of 2013 dropped that average. Hornacek even noted that the average is ticking back upward.

    "Now it's starting to get back up there where it was previously," he noted, injecting a bit of hope at the end. "But it's still not even at the level that it was six years ago. So that probably will end up changing here soon."

The average is rising quickly. Not since the "$2 million club" was formed in 2013 has a coach been offered so little. In addition to those mentioned above, Stan van Gundy got $7 million per year last summer to coach the Pistons. Doc Rivers and Greg Popovich now make over $10 million per year. Yes the average is rising. But Hornacek is still at the bottom of that rise.

Hornacek also noted that college coaching contracts are coming closer to NBA salaries.

    "I think colleges have gone that way, and I think it's on all levels it's sometimes surprising when you see how much money the college coaches are making, even on the assistants' level," Hornacek said. "I've seen some of those assistant coaches' salaries and thought, 'Holy crap, I think that's more than probably what some of our assistants make.'"

But will Suns owner Robert Sarver care?

Put yourself in Sarver's shoes. You see Hornacek making the same money as his club mates and none of them are getting new contracts either. Budenholzer won Coach of the Year. Clifford and Joerger have been great successes as well, taken their teams to the playoffs. Vogel and Spoelstra before them had success but never got their contracts torn up for new ones. What has Hornacek done to deserve a new contract if these guys don't?

Likely, Sarver will offer to guarantee Hornacek's fourth year to line up with GM Ryan McDonough's contract length. Or, he might offer to extend both of them beyond 2017, likely with raises involved.

But these next two years for Hornacek are already negotiated at $2 million per year. And that's still scraping the bottom of the NBA coaching barrel.
Take the money and run

Why not take more from Iowa State? Hoiberg made $2.6 million per year from them. If they turn to Hornacek, who now has two years NBA coaching experience, it's likely they'd offer more than Hoiberg made to entice him to move to Ames, Iowa.

Coaching at the college level is more demanding than the NBA in many respects. You recruit year-round, while coaching is almost a side gig. Hornacek may not want to go to Ames. But to get paid your worth, or more, you often have to leave the nest.

I think the "allure" of returning to his alma mater is overblown. If Hornacek liked Ames, Iowa so much why did he move and settle in the valley of the sun? It's Phoenix where he's put his roots, not Iowa.

But if Iowa State offers to double his income and give him a half-decade or more of job security, could he turn it down? Even if he doesn't like Ames, or the grind of college recruiting/coaching, he can see that Hoiberg, Donovan and Stevens turned a good college resume into $5-7 million a year in the NBA.

If you want Hornacek to stay in Phoenix, you have to hope he's not offered the Iowa State job. Because it's not likely Sarver will tear up Hornacek's contract in order to double his salary right now.

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Wow, I think this might be the only time I'll have to move something OUT of the politics board...

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Wow, I think this might be the only time I'll have to move something OUT of the politics board...

Yes, I posted it there by mistake.  But once done, I cannot fix.

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It's all moot. Nick committed to TJ Otzelberger. TJ Otzelberger was brought back to ISU to be the head coach when Hoiberg leaves. All the spin about Hornacek and other candidates is just national media trying to create a story.

The story is very simple: Everyone involved knew Thibs would be fired. Everyone involved knows Hoiberg will be the next coach of the Bulls. Everyone involved knows TJ Otzelberger will get the ISU job when Hoiberg leaves.

That's it. Nothing more to it. Anything else is just people trying to generate interest and page views.
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Even if Jeff Hornacek says he is interested?


That's why I said "reasonably certain."  The AD brought Otzelberger back knowing that he was going to have to replace a head coach late in the game.  Now Hornacek might be a game changer.

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Hornacek's interest to me looks like him angling for an extension in Phoenix. If he really wanted to get into the college game, why didn't he do so in the decade between his NBA retirement and his first assistant job with the Jazz? The only work he took in that time was as a special assistant in the NBA. He was asked the question because people are trying to make this more of a story than it is.
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Yes, I posted it there by mistake.  But once done, I cannot fix.

But you can report it, and ask us to move (after someone replies).

 

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