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Tugg Speedman

The Okafor post got me thinking ... based solely on HS performance, where does Henry Ellenson rank in the annals of WI HS History?  Is he the best ever? (base it only on HS performance as that is all we can base Ellenson performance on to date)

Others to consider

Jim Chones
Freddy Brown
Clarence Sherrod
Dean Marquardt (great HS player)
Joe Wolf
Jim Mac
Damon Key
Terry Porter
Bill Hanzlik
Nick Van Exel
Latrell Sprewell
Brian Butch
Sam Okey
Travis Denier
Tony Bennett
Reece Gaines (aka MU killer)
Wes Matthews
Jamil Wilson
Jeronne Maymon
Vander Blue
JP Tokoto
Kevon Looney
Diamond Stone
Bronson Koenig

Who is missing from this list?

brewcity77

Anthony Pieper is the all-time leading scorer, so I'd start there. But Mickey Crowe is probably the name anyone around before the 1980s would list as the undisputed king.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Black Swan

Kurt Nimphius is never mentioned in these types of threads but he belongs near the top of the list.

4everwarriors

#4
Kurt Nimphius
John Rinka
Blanton Simmons
Joe Chrnelich
Jim Smith
Korey Lucious
Calvin Rayford
Shannon Smith
Dale Koehler
Devin Harris
Lamont Weaver
Arike Ogunbowale, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

4everwarriors

Quote from: Black Swan on April 12, 2015, 08:36:01 PM
Kurt Nimphius is never mentioned in these types of threads but he belongs near the top of the list.


Got ya covered, Bob
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Gato78

John Johnson, Jeff Jonas and Don Kojis should be on the list. Calvin Rayford should be included. The best, in my mind, are Chones, Johnson, Brown and Wolf.

willie warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 12, 2015, 08:22:32 PM
Anthony Pieper is the all-time leading scorer, so I'd start there. But Mickey Crowe is probably the name anyone around before the 1980s would list as the undisputed king.
Ditto on those guys. Also:
Blanton Simmons
Jeff Sewell
Don Kojis
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Gato78

If you include Sewell you have to include Bob Wolf.

GGGG

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 12, 2015, 08:41:48 PM
Kurt Nimphius
John Rinka
Blanton Simmons
Joe Chrnelich
Jim Smith
Korey Lucious
Calvin Rayford
Shannon Smith
Dale Koehler
Devin Harris
Lamont Weaver
Arike Ogunbowale, ai na?


Marshall Williams

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

4everwarriors

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Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 12, 2015, 08:55:34 PM

Marshall Williams



Abdul Jeelani
Caron Butler
Wayne Kreklow
Rick Olson
Kurt Portmann
Mike Wilks
Sam Okey
Jose Winston
Mike Wilkinson
Andy Polka
Scott Christopherson
Keaton Nankivil
T.J. Bray
Riley LaChance
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MU82

How does one even compare?

I remember Ricky Olson was a boy wonder who was the subject of quite a recruiting war between the Warriors and Badgers. When he graduated HS, I believe he was the No. 2 scorer in state history, and given how he scored most of his points, he might have had 50% more had there been a 3-point line during his time in HS. He won a state title, too, right?

So was he "better" than Henry or others high on the list?
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Nukem2

Mickey Crowe...best volume shooter in WI histrory.  Could not guard his shadow, but he could really jack up those shots...   ;)

JerryWizig

IMO, hard to consider him the best ever when he never won a state title.

brewcity77

Quote from: Nukem2 on April 12, 2015, 09:48:23 PM
Mickey Crowe...best volume shooter in WI histrory.  Could not guard his shadow, but he could really jack up those shots...   ;)

To be fair, even his shadow could probably average 20 ppg.

Celtic Truth

http://m.host.madison.com/sports/college/basketball/men/basketball-former-prep-standout-mickey-crowe-to-have-book-signing/article_895853c3-d9c3-5f29-ac42-5be5bc792eeb.html?mobile_touch=true

Idk if any of you guys are familiar with Crowes life story post highschool. His life spiraled out of control and he struggled heavily with drugs, alcohol, and mental illness. And his brother Terrance Crowe is a theology teacher at Marquette. Last year a biography was written about Crowes interesting story. I never saw him play but he averaged 41.7 points a game so that's pretty elite in my mind.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: JerryWizig on April 12, 2015, 09:57:28 PM
IMO, hard to consider him the best ever when he never won a state title.

How good were the other 13 guys on the team?  It is a team sport.

brandx

I'd rank Chones, Wolf and "Downtown" Freddy Brown as the top 3.

And Joe Franklin and John Rushing were better than most names on the list.


And Riley LaChance on a list of greatest players ever? I belong on the list too, then.

Herman Cain

Mickey Crowe was the best High School player I ever saw. A lot of fun. Very sad what eventually happened to him. But based on high school alone, He would near the top of my list . Also Downtown Freddy Brown was a lot of fun to watch as well.

Chones and Wolf were both great in high school. Also I think Luke Fischer deserves some consideration to be on the list  as he led his team to an incredible winning 56 game winning streak in the large school division. That is special
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DomJamesToTheBasket

From what I've heard,  John Rinka from Shorewood should be on the list.  Sounds like the WI version of Pistol Pete.



eg021

Jerry Smith and Julian Swartz were pretty good high school players.

Dawson Rental

Sam Okey

As a senior in high school, Okey was ranked higher than God.






God Shammgod, of course.  Both were burger boys.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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