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moomoo

Fitzgerald says the Bucks arena vote will likely be debated separately.

This is not good, since if it were buried in the budget, the republicans could have some cover if they voted yes.

I hope Milwaukee doesn't blow this opportunity.



Silenzio. Parla il moomoo.

MUfan12

Quote from: moomoo on June 24, 2015, 12:32:44 PM
Fitzgerald says the Bucks arena vote will likely be debated separately.

This is not good, since if it were buried in the budget, the republicans could have some cover if they voted yes.

I hope Milwaukee doesn't blow this opportunity.

This might actually be a positive, given the other issues the GOP has with the budget. They should be able to get to 17 votes in the senate for the arena plan. The assembly will pass fairly easily.

GGGG

I think it gives Milwaukee area Democrats reasons to vote for it.  Originally I thought it would be a death knell if it was outside the budget, but like MUfan12, I think it may end up being a positive.

mu03eng

With this move, I think it changes it from a 60-40 proposition to 80-20 in likelihood of passing.  Net positive, and it'll look bipartisan
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

We R Final Four

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 24, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
I think it gives Milwaukee area Democrats reasons to vote for it.  Originally I thought it would be a death knell if it was outside the budget, but like MUfan12, I think it may end up being a positive.
This absolutely is a positive and will get passed in this fashion.

mu_hilltopper

I wouldn't be so sure about that.  I've heard the exact opposite analysis.

Bottom line .. a huge chunk of legislators, D or R who do not live within 100 miles of MKE are against spending money on a Milwaukee project like a new Buck's stadium.

Just look at the push-back on completing the Zoo Interchange project.

Might be 20-80 against.

swoopem

Sorry, I don't live in Wisco and haven't been following it as closely as others. When is the vote and when will we know if it's going to be built or not? It seems like it's been in limbo forever.

Thanks
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Spotcheck Billy

some one at work heard Gary Ellerson on the radio today reporting he heard Jay Bilas (bullshite) report that the Bucks will trade up to grab Kaminski in order to insure the arena bill passing LOL

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: swoopem on June 24, 2015, 02:18:00 PM
Sorry, I don't live in Wisco and haven't been following it as closely as others. When is the vote and when will we know if it's going to be built or not? It seems like it's been in limbo forever.

Thanks

Ha .. forever?  Look at the MN Vikings stadium.  Plans were released in 2007.  Took five YEARS to get approved, with proposals and counter proposals all the time.

This Bucks stadium is moving at light-speed.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Michael Kenyon on June 24, 2015, 02:54:32 PM
some one at work heard Gary Ellerson on the radio today reporting he heard Jay Bilas (bullcrape) report that the Bucks will trade up to grab Kaminski in order to insure the arena bill passing LOL

If they grabbed him or dekker you could almost guarantee a massive bump in attendance and that bill being passed.
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We R Final Four

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on June 24, 2015, 01:57:23 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about that.  I've heard the exact opposite analysis.

Bottom line .. a huge chunk of legislators, D or R who do not live within 100 miles of MKE are against spending money on a Milwaukee project like a new Buck's stadium.

Just look at the push-back on completing the Zoo Interchange project.

Might be 20-80 against.
If your 20% with this as a separate item, then it was 0% chance of passing in the budget.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: We R Final Four on June 24, 2015, 07:30:37 PM
If your 20% with this as a separate item, then it was 0% chance of passing in the budget.

Disagree.  A budget MUST be passed, and you can count on 80% of R's voting yes out of the box.  Not to mention, a budget has a ton pages that you can bury pet projects or policy to sway votes.  Add in their leader is running for President and there's a tendency to help him out on a major budget/arena bill.

An Arena-only bill .. can't count on anyone voting for it, gotta earn those votes, and not a lot of graft to hand out.

We R Final Four


moomoo

Walker scrambling for votes-----from democrats. This is not going to be easy.

Silenzio. Parla il moomoo.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: moomoo on June 25, 2015, 06:42:37 PM
Walker scrambling for votes-----from democrats. This is not going to be easy.

Agreed.  Gosh, I wonder if the Dems will want something, like, oh, I don't know, an inflationary increase in education funding so districts don't need to cut for a 5th and 6th year?

Nah, who am I kidding.  Enough of them will collapse for some shiny beads.

moomoo

This is not good. I think they are gonna blow it. Ridiculous.  So much harder as a separate bill.

Madison— Hours before Wisconsin's budget is set to expire, state Senate Republicans have agreed among themselves to seek to take public financing for a Milwaukee Bucks arena out of the bill and to cut $800 million in bonding for roads while avoiding immediate delays in the massive Zoo Interchange project, according to Republicans in that house.
Silenzio. Parla il moomoo.

bilsu

Quote from: moomoo on June 30, 2015, 04:24:58 PM
This is not good. I think they are gonna blow it. Ridiculous.  So much harder as a separate bill.

Madison— Hours before Wisconsin's budget is set to expire, state Senate Republicans have agreed among themselves to seek to take public financing for a Milwaukee Bucks arena out of the bill and to cut $800 million in bonding for roads while avoiding immediate delays in the massive Zoo Interchange project, according to Republicans in that house.
You will not nned roads to Milwaukee, if the Bucks leave town.

I also believe the politicians are going to blow this one.

Skatastrophy

Can Marquette leave the state too? This is going to have a large negative impact on both our university and our basketball program.

bilsu

Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 30, 2015, 04:41:39 PM
Can Marquette leave the state too? This is going to have a large negative impact on both our university and our basketball program.
I think it will have a negative impact on MU, but it is hard to say how much. It will have even an even bigger impact, if they go ahead and raze the BMO Harris Center, which would send MU back to US Cellular Arena as second fiddle to UWM.

GGGG


4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Groin_pull

Quote from: bilsu on June 30, 2015, 04:36:36 PM
You will not nned roads to Milwaukee, if the Bucks leave town.

I also believe the politicians are going to blow this one.

I've been expecting that since the beginning. No faith in the state and city to get this done. The upstate yokels will make sure it sinks. Milwaukee, enjoy your weed patch. Seattle, enjoy your new team.

MuMark

People need to relax.......

Ted Davis ‏@nbated  4h4 hours ago
In 27yrs in NBA it ALWAYS goes like this for new arena. Looks bad, gets worse and finally seems impossible until.......it's done!

Ted Davis ‏@nbated  2h2 hours ago
Bucks played in Hou the night the referendum to build Toyota Ctr failed. Employees were saying, "Hello N.O. Rockets" They are still in Hou.

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