Diamond Stone and the Bucky nation

[tower912]

In the end, a talented 18 year old decided to play basketball for Maryland and not his home state university.
But what this reveals about the badger faithful is revealing.   We all know the rants, the code words, the racism, the insecurities, the irrationality.   It is fun to engage in schadenfreude and take amusement in their tortured anguish.    And yes it is fans being fans, a small percentage of their supporters, and all fanbases act like that.  
 So let's not.  Use your MU education, use what the Jesuits taught you to resolve to be the anti-badger fanbase.    Use your logic and not your just your gut.    Don't fall into the trap of lowest common denominator message board clichés.   Don't attack 18-22 year old kids.   An 18 year old choosing another school is not a personal reflection on you.    Neither is a kid making or missing a jump shot.    Raise the level of your own discourse.   Don't act like a badger fan.   Act like an adult who knows better.   Use the rodents as a cautionary tale, not role models.   When they act like this, you have the moral high ground to mock the living crap out of them.    Finally, somewhere in Wisconsin, there is a kid with great basketball skills who pays attention to message boards and is resolving to never go to Madison because of those jack-holes.    

[brewcity77]

I agree completely. While there are the occasional exceptions, I do feel the attacks from our camp on committing recruits are fewer and further between. Maybe because we have a smaller fanbase. But this past year, I don't remember any Marquette people bashing Jimmy Whitt or Akoy Agau when they went elsewhere. The last one I remember was someone going off on Kendrick Nunn, but it was definitely fairly isolated.

What amazed me was there seemed to be as many if not more attacks on Stone than there were congratulations. And the coach's own daughter joining in? Actually...that didn't amaze me. As soon as I saw Maryland announced, I expected it. Just like we saw with Looney and Tokoto.

[Marquette Fan in WI]

The one thing that I don't understand.
When Maryland and Rutgers joined the Big Ten there was a big deal made how it was a good match because both were on similar academic levels as the other schools.
Does each school even within a conference hold their own academic admissions standards...is that the argument?
The data doesn't look that different
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/data

How come Northwestern never makes excuses?

This whole thing just rubs me the wrong way.

[ecompt]

In the end, I talented 18 year old decided to play basketball for Maryland and not his home state university.
But what this reveals about the badger faithful is revealing.   We all know the rants, the code words, the racism, the insecurities, the irrationality.   It is fun to engage in schadenfreude and take amusement in their tortured anguish.    And yes it is fans being fans, a small percentage of their supporters, and all fanbases act like that.   
 So let's not.  Use your MU education, use what the Jesuits taught you to resolve to be the anti-badger fanbase.    Use your logic and not your just your gut.    Don't fall into the trap of lowest common denominator message board clichés.   Don't attack 18-22 year old kids.   An 18 year old choosing another school is not a personal reflection on you.    Neither is a kid making or missing a jump shot.    Raise the level of your own discourse.   Don't act like a badger fan.   Act like an adult who knows better.   Use the rodents as a cautionary tale, not role models.   When they act like this, you have the moral high ground to mock the living crap out of them.    Finally, somewhere in Wisconsin, there is a kid with great basketball skills who pays attention to message boards and is resolving to never go to Madison because of those jack-holes.   

Well said. We are ranting about kids here.

[GGGG]

The one thing that I don't understand.
When Maryland and Rutgers joined the Big Ten there was a big deal made how it was a good match because both were on similar academic levels as the other schools.
Does each school even within a conference hold their own academic admissions standards...is that the argument?
The data doesn't look that different
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/data

How come Northwestern never makes excuses?

This whole thing just rubs me the wrong way.

Diamond Stone was accepted into Madison.  People who say it was about academics are either overlooking, or are ignorant, of that fact.

[mu03eng]

The one thing that I don't understand.
When Maryland and Rutgers joined the Big Ten there was a big deal made how it was a good match because both were on similar academic levels as the other schools.
Does each school even within a conference hold their own academic admissions standards...is that the argument?
The data doesn't look that different
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/data

How come Northwestern never makes excuses?

This whole thing just rubs me the wrong way.

Each school "interprets" the standards their own way.  All NCAA schools have the same academic standards they have to meet to avoid penalty from the NCAA but there are a combination of measurements and they are on sliding scales so there can be a lot of differentiation in the interpretation.  It also has to do with not just the individual student but the group of students currently enrolled in the athletic programs.  So if you got a lot of really qualified students already, you can take more risk with a less qualified student.

Bucky doesn't have lower standards, in fact, they have taken student athletes with a lower academic profile than Diamond Stone.  It's really an excuse by Bucky fans to justify why a recruiting relationship didn't work.  Stone going to Maryland might have been a Wisconsin choice or a Stone choice, or both.....but academic standards being "high" at Wisconsin didn't play a part in it.

[mu03eng]

Diamond Stone was accepted into Madison.  People who say it was about academics are either overlooking, or are ignorant, of that fact.

This is 100% correct

[Hards Alumni]

The one thing that I don't understand.
When Maryland and Rutgers joined the Big Ten there was a big deal made how it was a good match because both were on similar academic levels as the other schools.
Does each school even within a conference hold their own academic admissions standards...is that the argument?
The data doesn't look that different
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/data

How come Northwestern never makes excuses?

This whole thing just rubs me the wrong way.

Because its bull plop.  Follow the shoe money.

[Groin_pull]

God, this Big 10-academics bullsh*t is so tiresome.

[The Loud Guy]

No message

[Litehouse]

So is this the thread where we mock the living crap out of them?

[hairy worthen]

I agree completely. While there are the occasional exceptions, I do feel the attacks from our camp on committing recruits are fewer and further between. Maybe because we have a smaller fanbase. But this past year, I don't remember any Marquette people bashing Jimmy Whitt or Akoy Agau when they went elsewhere. The last one I remember was someone going off on Kendrick Nunn, but it was definitely fairly isolated.

What amazed me was there seemed to be as many if not more attacks on Stone than there were congratulations. And the coach's own daughter joining in? Actually...that didn't amaze me. As soon as I saw Maryland announced, I expected it. Just like we saw with Looney and Tokoto.

Add Blue and Matthews to that list as well as others I am sure.

[Tugg Speedman]

Diamond Stone was accepted into Madison.  People who say it was about academics are either overlooking, or are ignorant, of that fact.

People, in this case, is Bo Ryan's daughter who claims FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE that he was not accepted into Madison.

The real reason Diamond Stone is not a Wisconsin Badger
http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/03/the-real-reason-diamond-stone-is-not-a-wisconsin-badger/

excerpt

Diamond’s dad called Coach Ryan’s house and used the phrase “You might want to sit down for this” like he was about to announce the second coming of Jesus Christ. His dad then put Diamond on the phone, and he told Coach that he wanted to be a Badger. The problem was, both parties knew all along he didn’t have the grades/ACT score to get into the University at the time. I know this because Coach’s daughter Brenna answered the phone and was right there when it happened, and she’s a close friend of mine.

So this is more than "people" this is Bo Ryan's daughter.  None of these tweets or blog posts have been taken down.  

Should we believe Bo endorses his daughter, after all she claims to have answered the phone when the Stone's called and was in the room to hear the conservation.

[GGGG]

We have had Badger insiders, as well as others, state matter of fact that Diamond was admitted into UW in just the last couple of weeks.  I don't care what Bo Ryan's daughter said to her friend back in November.

Furthermore here is what it says "both parties knew all along he didn’t have the grades/ACT score to get into the University at the time."

"At the time" is very important here.

[tower912]

Diamond verbals to Wiscy but doesn't have the scores.   He gets the scores, but by then has changed his mind.   It isn't that difficult to believe or understand. 

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

We have had Badger insiders, as well as others, state matter of fact that Diamond was admitted into UW in just the last couple of weeks.  I don't care what Bo Ryan's daughter said to her friend back in November.

Furthermore here is what it says "both parties knew all along he didn’t have the grades/ACT score to get into the University at the time."

"At the time" is very important here.

Not to mention, if you believe this account, why was Madison still pursuing him if all parties knew he couldn't get in?

This whole thing is dumb. Best of luck to Stone. Badger nation can pound sand.

[Tugg Speedman]

We have had Badger insiders, as well as others, state matter of fact that Diamond was admitted into UW in just the last couple of weeks.  I don't care what Bo Ryan's daughter said to her friend back in November.

Furthermore here is what it says "both parties knew all along he didn’t have the grades/ACT score to get into the University at the time."

"At the time" is very important here.

You're over-reading this.  The title is the "real reason Diamond Stone is not a Wisconsin Badger"  It starts with he did not qualify last fall (side note, I would bet this is true for a lot of players) and continues to say he never qualified.  

Anonymous "insiders" are a bunch of idiots making up stuff behind pretend names.  Here we have someone in the room claiming first hand knowledge in their real name.

And yes Brenna Ryan endorsed this story, she tweeted out the link the second this blog was posted (yesteday morning).

Should I conclude that Bo endorses this attack on Diamond?  Is Bo also ok with his daughter describing this final four run as #whitebballscucess?

[GGGG]

You're over-reading this.  The title is the "real reason Diamond Stone is not a Wisconsin Badger"  It starts with he did not qualify last fall (side note, I would bet this is true for a lot of players) and continues to say he never qualified. 

Anonymous "insiders" are a bunch of idiots making up stuff behind pretend names.  Here we have someone in the room claiming first hand knowledge in their real name.

And yes Brenna Ryan endorsed this story, she tweeted out the link the second this blog was posted (yesteday morning).

So why should I conclude that Bo endorses this attack on Diamond?  Is Bo also ok with his daughter descibing this final four run as #whitebballscucess?

Fine.  You can believe Bo Ryan's daughter if you want.  She seems like a nice gal.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Diamond verbals to Wiscy but doesn't have the scores.   He gets the scores, but by then has changed his mind.   It isn't that difficult to believe or understand. 

This seems shockingly simple, and therefore, highly likely.

[Tugg Speedman]

Fine.  You can believe Bo Ryan's daughter if you want.  She seems like a nice gal.

To be clear what I'm arguing.  I think this is a devastating and completely unwarranted attack on Diamond and Bo should be embarrassed, make Brenna take it all down, and both of them should personally apologize to him.

So far Bo and Brenna are not.

Side note - Brenna seems like a spoiled entitled teenager.

[WarriorFan]

Bottom line is that Diamond is a great player.  He's going to kick a$$ at Maryland.  It will be fun to watch the diaspora of Wisconsin talent grow.

[TheGym]

People, in this case, is Bo Ryan's daughter who claims FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE that he was not accepted into Madison.

The real reason Diamond Stone is not a Wisconsin Badger
http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/03/the-real-reason-diamond-stone-is-not-a-wisconsin-badger/

excerpt

Diamond’s dad called Coach Ryan’s house and used the phrase “You might want to sit down for this” like he was about to announce the second coming of Jesus Christ. His dad then put Diamond on the phone, and he told Coach that he wanted to be a Badger. The problem was, both parties knew all along he didn’t have the grades/ACT score to get into the University at the time. I know this because Coach’s daughter Brenna answered the phone and was right there when it happened, and she’s a close friend of mine.

So this is more than "people" this is Bo Ryan's daughter.  None of these tweets or blog posts have been taken down.  

Should we believe Bo endorses his daughter, after all she claims to have answered the phone when the Stone's called and was in the room to hear the conservation.

I call BS, when was the last time your teenager answered your house phone (if you even have one)?  Also, there is no way that Stone does not have Bo's cell phone number.

[mu03eng]

Guys the whole story is crap....Stone got into UW but chose a different path.....anything else is just CYA Badger fanboy crap.

Heisenburg, there is nothing for Bo and his daughter to apologize for....in the end who cares.  Badger fans got caught playing the "academics" card that isn't true, let's all move on since we already knew they were full of crap anyway.

[Pakuni]

Guys the whole story is crap....Stone got into UW but chose a different path.....anything else is just CYA Badger fanboy crap.

Heisenburg, there is nothing for Bo and his daughter to apologize for....in the end who cares.  Badger fans got caught playing the "academics" card that isn't true, let's all move on since we already knew they were full of crap anyway.

+1
I'm just glad we can stop planning the funeral for Marquette Basketball and next year's UW national championship parade.

[Tugg Speedman]

Guys the whole story is crap....Stone got into UW but chose a different path.....anything else is just CYA Badger fanboy crap.

Heisenburg, there is nothing for Bo and his daughter to apologize for....in the end who cares.  Badger fans got caught playing the "academics" card that isn't true, let's all move on since we already knew they were full of crap anyway.

The NCAA has rules that prohibit a coach from talking about recruits.  You cannot get around that by having your daughter in the room to blog and tweet about it.

If Bo wants future recruits to know that his family will tweet and blog disparaging information should they say no to him, and his daughter celebrating that "white" Bucky won, then good luck on the recruiting trail Bo.  

You cannot live on marginal three star kids that sit on the bench their entire freshman year that blow up into national POY candidates their senior year.  That is not a strategy, that is blind luck.  To stay good you have to recruit 4 and 5 star types and some of them are "inner city kids."

Bo has to be worried that Diamond is just the next in a long line of inner city kids that make Bucky their second choice.  His daughter is not helping his cause.  I'll ask again, has anyone from Bo's family (or even Bo) slammed a white recruit in this manner that turned Bo down?

[tompopsicle]

I thought the real reason was that Bo cooled on him.

[4everwarriors]

Smacks of F*ckin' messin' with Bo.

[mu03eng]

The NCAA has rules that prohibit a coach from talking about recruits.  You cannot get around that by having your daughter in the room to blog and tweet about it.

If Bo wants future recruits to know that his family will tweet and blog disparaging information should they say no to him, and his daughter celebrating that "white" Bucky won, then good luck on the recruiting trail Bo.  

You cannot live on marginal three star kids that sit on the bench their entire freshman year that blow up into national POY candidates their senior year.  That is not a strategy, that is blind luck.  To stay good you have to recruit 4 and 5 star types and some of them are "inner city kids."

Bo has to be worried that Diamond is just the next in a long line of inner city kids that make Bucky their second choice.  His daughter is not helping his cause.  I'll ask again, has anyone from Bo's family (or even Bo) slammed a white recruit in this manner that turned Bo down?

Wait, are you leveling charges of racism at Bo Ryan based your leaps of logic that was in turn based on an ANONYMOUS article claiming certain facts that have no evidence that they are in fact, ya know, facts?  An article that contradicts every piece of information national and local reports have reported on?

Even for you this is a level of insanity that seems, well, insane.

[Tugg Speedman]

Wait, are you leveling charges of racism at Bo Ryan based your leaps of logic that was in turn based on an ANONYMOUS article claiming certain facts that have no evidence that they are in fact, ya know, facts?  An article that contradicts every piece of information national and local reports have reported on?

Even for you this is a level of insanity that seems, well, insane.

Nice try, other than spelling all the words correct, nothing you wrote above is true.

From the top ....

Friday night, one hour after Stone commits to Maryland, Bo' daughter Brenna tweets

Brenna Ryan ‏@BrenkRyan  Stay posted. There's always more the story.
https://twitter.com/BrenkRyan/status/581629288056782848

The next morning (Saturday) at 9:16 she tweets

The real reason Diamond Stone is not a Wisconsin Badger #TakeALap - http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/03/the-real-reason-diamond-stone-is-not-a-wisconsin-badger/ …
https://twitter.com/TheVictoryLap_/status/581822223712792577

This was just a few minutes after the blog was posted (as I noted on the previous page) it in it says:

I know this because Coach’s daughter Brenna answered the phone and was right there when it happened, and she’s a close friend of mine.

Brenna Ryan is not being misquoted.  She said the night before it was coming and retweeted this link the moment it was available.  Restated, Brenna Ryan (again Bo's daughter) wants everyone to know she was in the room, meaning she has first hand knowledge that Diamond was not accepted to Bucky.  Again, Bo's daughter is claiming she literally answered the phone when Diamond's dad called for Bo and is making all these private, and protected by NCAA rules, conservations public.

Do I believe he was not accepted to Bucky?  No, I think he was.  Instead this is a terrible slam (read outright lie) by a family member of Bo Ryan on a high schooler for the "crime" of choosing Maryland.  Like I said above, I also believe this is a violation of NCAA rules.

If one of my kids interfered in my job in this manner, livid would be an understatement.  I might have to disown them.

Should all future recruits expect Bo's family members to air their private conservations in this manner should they choose another school?  Bucky basketball recruiting could be an episode of the Sopranos.  OMERTA!

[The Lens]

Diamond got into UW.  Many people close to Diamond were surprised it wasn't UW.  Kid changed his mind.  It happens.

[esotericmindguy]

Diamond got into UW.  Many people close to Diamond were surprised it wasn't UW.  Kid changed his mind.  It happens.

Yeah, I was really surprised. Losing Stone, Dekker, Gasser and Kominsky will be tough. Bucky will still be solid, but 3 of those 4 players are NBA guys, hard to overcome.

[Tugg Speedman]

Yeah, I was really surprised. Losing Stone, Dekker, Gasser and Kominsky will be tough. Bucky will still be solid, but 3 of those 4 players are NBA guys, hard to overcome.

Define "solid" and look at the rest of the B1G. They are a .500 B1G team next year and a bubble team.  Maybe worse.

Definitely worse and of the tourney if Hayes leaves for the next level.

I would not be surprised if Saturday was Bucky's last tourney win for the next few years.

Can make a credible case MU is better than Bucky next year.

[wadesworld]

Define "solid" and look at the rest of the B1G. They are a .500 B1G team next year and a bubble team.  Maybe worse.

Definitely worse and of the tourney if Hayes leaves for the next level.

I would not be surprised if Saturday was Bucky's last tourney win for the next few years.

Can make a credible case MU is better than Bucky next year.

We hear this about Bo every year other than this year.

R-E-L-A-X

[Tugg Speedman]

We hear this about Bo every year other than this year.

R-E-L-A-X

And some of those years in the last 14 they were a bubble team that barely got in..

[chapman]

We hear this about Bo every year other than this year.

R-E-L-A-X

+1.  As long as Bo is there, they'll be just fine until proven otherwise.

And some of those years in the last 14 they were a bubble team that barely got in..

Their seeds in the Bo era: 8, 5, 6, 6, 9, 2, 3, 12, 4, 4, 4, 5, 2, 1. 

I see one year where they were among the last teams in. 

[Dawson Rental]

The NCAA has rules that prohibit a coach from talking about recruits.  You cannot get around that by having your daughter in the room to blog and tweet about it.

If Bo wants future recruits to know that his family will tweet and blog disparaging information should they say no to him, and his daughter celebrating that "white" Bucky won, then good luck on the recruiting trail Bo.  

You cannot live on marginal three star kids that sit on the bench their entire freshman year that blow up into national POY candidates their senior year.  That is not a strategy, that is blind luck.  To stay good you have to recruit 4 and 5 star types and some of them are "inner city kids."

Bo has to be worried that Diamond is just the next in a long line of inner city kids that make Bucky their second choice.  His daughter is not helping his cause.  I'll ask again, has anyone from Bo's family (or even Bo) slammed a white recruit in this manner that turned Bo down?

Have a little humility, dude.  Do you really think that Bo Ryan needs advice from you on how to build a basketball program?

[JakeBarnes]

And some of those years in the last 14 they were a bubble team that barely got in..

I say we just worry about Marquette and our run in the tourney next year. Honestly, outside of the one game we play and the incessant obnoxious demeanor of their fans, I care very little about UW-Madison. The best way to quiet them is to create a dominant winning team for the next 10 years.

[brandx]

I agree completely. While there are the occasional exceptions, I do feel the attacks from our camp on committing recruits are fewer and further between. Maybe because we have a smaller fanbase. But this past year, I don't remember any Marquette people bashing Jimmy Whitt or Akoy Agau when they went elsewhere. The last one I remember was someone going off on Kendrick Nunn, but it was definitely fairly isolated.

What amazed me was there seemed to be as many if not more attacks on Stone than there were congratulations. And the coach's own daughter joining in? Actually...that didn't amaze me. As soon as I saw Maryland announced, I expected it. Just like we saw with Looney and Tokoto.

Just a "bit" of difference between Stone and Whitt/Agau. Let's see if we can remain civil when losing a top 10 player  - especially if he is from Wisconsin.

[brandx]

To be clear what I'm arguing.  I think this is a devastating and completely unwarranted attack on Diamond and Bo should be embarrassed, make Brenna take it all down, and both of them should personally apologize to him.

So far Bo and Brenna are not.

Side note - Brenna seems like a spoiled entitled teenager.

You have attacked and insinuated things about Stone repeatedly, but yet, this is a "devastating and completely unwarranted attack".

It is very kind of you to offer advice to Bo and if you would like to assume the role of Twitter Chief of Police, it is all yours.

[brewcity77]

Just a "bit" of difference between Stone and Whitt/Agau. Let's see if we can remain civil when losing a top 10 player  - especially if he is from Wisconsin.

I've really been trying to think of the big recruiting battles we lost. Maybe a nut or few after Kendrick Nunn. Wasn't much outrage at Joel Embiid, that was a big one that we were in great position for...hell, we even had Paint Touches encouraging him NOT to go here before he committed. Did anyone go after Hill when he decommitted and went to Va Tech? How about when Branden Dawson picked MSU over us?

I'm not saying our fanbase is perfect. We aren't. This site, others like it, Twitter, we have plenty of nuts out there as well. But as far as attacking kids that go elsewhere, I don't think we've done much of that.

Did anyone go after McKay or Burton when they left? Those seem like possibilities, but I felt most people were more in the c'est la vie mode.

[Pakuni]

I've really been trying to think of the big recruiting battles we lost. Maybe a nut or few after Kendrick Nunn. Wasn't much outrage at Joel Embiid, that was a big one that we were in great position for...hell, we even had Paint Touches encouraging him NOT to go here before he committed. Did anyone go after Hill when he decommitted and went to Va Tech? How about when Branden Dawson picked MSU over us?

I'm not saying our fanbase is perfect. We aren't. This site, others like it, Twitter, we have plenty of nuts out there as well. But as far as attacking kids that go elsewhere, I don't think we've done much of that.

Did anyone go after McKay or Burton when they left? Those seem like possibilities, but I felt most people were more in the c'est la vie mode.

Yeah, I don't remember fans here or on the old boards making personal remarks about Brian Butch, Bobby Frasor or Iman Shumpert when they chose to go elsewhere. We've generally expressed disappointment and moved on.

The same can't be said for transfers, though. Plenty of nasty things were said about McKay and Mbakwe, for sure, and i don't recall a lot of well wishes for Dameon Mason or ODB.

[MU Buff]

McKay was definitely attacked by some Marquette fans on twitter after he transferred. I didn't notice the same types of responses after Burton transferred, but I think our fan base was more depressed than angry by that point.

[Tugg Speedman]

Have a little humility, dude.  Do you really think that Bo Ryan needs advice from you on how to build a basketball program?

No on the program. .. Maybe on controlling his daughter

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

No on the program. .. Maybe on controlling his daughter

You've reached a very high level of concern on this issue. Several posts in several threads all saying the same things.

Since you are so concerned, I recommend you contact the UW athletic department, and let them know your opinion.

Nobody around here appears to care nearly as much as you do.

[MUSF]

No on the program. .. Maybe on controlling his daughter

His daughter is an adult. If you think the appropriate action is to "control" her, then maybe you need the parenting advice.

[The Lens]

You've reached a very high level of concern on this issue. Several posts in several threads all saying the same things.

Since you are so concerned, I recommend you contact the UW athletic department, and let them know your opinion.

Nobody around here appears to care nearly as much as you do.

Ners had Derrick, Another 84 has Brenna.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I've really been trying to think of the big recruiting battles we lost. Maybe a nut or few after Kendrick Nunn. Wasn't much outrage at Joel Embiid, that was a big one that we were in great position for...hell, we even had Paint Touches encouraging him NOT to go here before he committed. Did anyone go after Hill when he decommitted and went to Va Tech? How about when Branden Dawson picked MSU over us?

I'm not saying our fanbase is perfect. We aren't. This site, others like it, Twitter, we have plenty of nuts out there as well. But as far as attacking kids that go elsewhere, I don't think we've done much of that.

Did anyone go after McKay or Burton when they left? Those seem like possibilities, but I felt most people were more in the c'est la vie mode.

I do remember there being a poster or two on here tearing into Hill after he decomitted. But yeah, nothing quite on this level.

[MU82]

His daughter is an adult. If you think the appropriate action is to "control" her, then maybe you need the parenting advice.

I agree that Heisenberg seems obsessed with this, but I don't disagree with his general thesis:

The daughter is a spoiled little $hit who perhaps broke NCAA rules and almost surely crossed ethical lines.

Her father should care because it reflects poorly on him -- in addition to just being a crappy thing to do. I have a grown daughter and would not tolerate such behavior from her. But she isn't a spoiled little $hit so it never would have been an issue.

Now ... time to move on.

[MUSF]

I agree that Heisenberg seems obsessed with this, but I don't disagree with his general thesis:

The daughter is a spoiled little $hit who perhaps broke NCAA rules and almost surely crossed ethical lines.

Her father should care because it reflects poorly on him -- in addition to just being a crappy thing to do. I have a grown daughter and would not tolerate such behavior from her. But she isn't a spoiled little $hit so it never would have been an issue.

Now ... time to move on.

I'm not saying Bo shouldn't care what his daughter says in public. He most certainly should discuss this with her and get on the same page. I take issue with Heisenberg's use of the word control when talking about Bo's relationship with his adult daughter. It may have just been poor word choice but it comes across as domineering and at least a little misogynistic.

Also, how exactly could Bo Ryan's daughter break NCAA rules when she is not an athlete or employed by UW? 

[We R Final Four]

Define "solid" and look at the rest of the B1G. They are a .500 B1G team next year and a bubble team.  Maybe worse.

Definitely worse and of the tourney if Hayes leaves for the next level.

I would not be surprised if Saturday was Bucky's last tourney win for the next few years.

Can make a credible case MU is better than Bucky next year.

Koenig Happ and Hayes. They will make the tourney, they will be above .500, and you are reaching on both UW and MU.

[MU82]

I'm not saying Bo shouldn't care what his daughter says in public. He most certainly should discuss this with her and get on the same page. I take issue with Heisenberg's use of the word control when talking about Bo's relationship with his adult daughter. It may have just been poor word choice but it comes across as domineering and at least a little misogynistic.

Also, how exactly could Bo Ryan's daughter break NCAA rules when she is not an athlete or employed by UW? 

I don't know shyte about NCAA rules, so I shouldn't have thrown that in there. I stand by everything else I said.

[MUSF]

Define "solid" and look at the rest of the B1G. They are a .500 B1G team next year and a bubble team.  Maybe worse.

Definitely worse and of the tourney if Hayes leaves for the next level.

I would not be surprised if Saturday was Bucky's last tourney win for the next few years.

Can make a credible case MU is better than Bucky next year.

Are we really going to keep going down this road year after year?  People, myself included, were saying the same thing about the Badgers after the Wilkinson/Tucker years. 

I'll give you a glimpse into your future... you will be deeply disappointed.  Bucky isn't going anywhere.

[brandx]

His daughter is an adult. If you think the appropriate action is to "control" her, then maybe you need the parenting advice.

 

Well, he did say he would disown a child who "interfered" in his job, so I think maybe he might not be parenting material.

I know I only love my kids when they do what I want them to do 

[Anti-Dentite]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/03/31/diamond-stone-says-his-act-score-and-under-armour-arent-why-he-chose-maryland-over-wisconsin/  He noticed what the Bucky pukes said about him.

[MuMark]

Yep UW fans sure made an impression on him........http://www.jrn.com/wtmj/wi-sports/se-wisconsin-high-school-sports/Diamond-Stone-decision-choosing-Maryland-Terrapins-over-Wisconsin-Badgers-298197561.html

[Dawson Rental]

Lesson to be learned here which is not to say that I expect that the reaction from the vast majority here to close to this when MU next loses a big recruiting battle.  But if Diamond got his fill of the Badger nation, Wisconsin high schoolers following his recruitment got wind of it, too.  Who wants to play for douche bags?

[willie warrior]

Lesson to be learned here which is not to say that I expect that the reaction from the vast majority here to close to this when MU next loses a big recruiting battle.  But if Diamond got his fill of the Badger nation, Wisconsin high schoolers following his recruitment got wind of it, too.  Who wants to play for douche bags?

Looks like there are douche bag followers at Bucky, as they have back to back Final 4's. I dislike Bucky more than most others, but this is wishful thinking that they will not get players. They have been getting them. Whether they are from Wisconsin or not.

[VegasWarrior77]

DC Sports Bog
Diamond Stone says his ACT score and Under Armour aren’t why he chose Maryland over Wisconsin
By Scott Allen March 31 at 11:28 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/03/31/diamond-stone-says-his-act-score-and-under-armour-arent-why-he-chose-maryland-over-wisconsin/

Don’t worry, Maryland fans. No matter how Wisconsin fares at the Final Four this weekend, Terrapins basketball commit Diamond Stone isn’t changing his mind about playing in College Park next season.

“No chance,” Stone told the Glenn Clark Radio Show on Monday. “I’ve made my decision and I’m a man of my word. I’m committed to Maryland, so that’s where I’m going to go. There’s no backing up.”

Stone, a 6-foot-10, 250-pound center out of Dominican High in Milwaukee, is a consensus top 10 recruit who “wants to bring back a championship to College Park.”

In the days since he committed to Maryland last Friday, Stone has read all sorts of theories about why he isn’t going to Wisconsin. He’s also been subjected to vitriol from angry Badgers fans on social media.

“I get all the tweets, calling me a traitor, swearing at me,” Stone said. “I just ignore all that, turn my notifications off.”

The worst thing he’s heard?

“I got a three on my ACT, that was probably the worst,” Stone said. “It’s impossible, I don’t understand. Wisconsin fans are trying to find every little thing to get at me. My guidance counselor [asked me], ‘Do you want me to post your scores online to people know?’ I got a 20 on the ACT and I was all fine to go to Wisconsin. I could’ve went to Wisconsin, but I feel like Maryland is the place for me.”

Stone said that Under Armour, which sponsored his AAU team, didn’t play a factor in his decision to commit to Maryland, but the Terps’ strength coach did.

[MUeng]

interesting and blunt comments from Stone.  kinda sad that Wisconsin "fans" would go to such lows of calling his character and intelligence into question.  I can hear it now: "he only got a 20; probably wouldn't have made it at Madison anyway."

[VegasWarrior77]

Some badger fans think they would get all the top recruits if they were better students.  Jabari Parker would have gone to madison but couldn't get in so he settled for Duke (attached tweets).  Unreal!

[Smoothly]

Twitter doesn't have teal

[GB Warrior]

interesting and blunt comments from Stone.  kinda sad that Wisconsin "fans" would go to such lows of calling his character and intelligence into question.  I can hear it now: "he only got a 20; probably wouldn't have made it at Madison anyway."

I'm going to save this quote so they remember that education requirements are relaxed for student-athletes at their institution just like everyone else's. Since that's what they're still using as the reason Gary Anderson bolted.

[KenoshaWarrior]

Some badger fans think they would get all the top recruits if they were better students.  Jabari Parker would have gone to madison but couldn't get in so he settled for Duke (attached tweets).  Unreal!

They were being sarcastic. AAlthough I am sure those ideas cross badger fans minds

[rocket surgeon]

if i remember correctly, derrick rose didn't have the numbers initially either-heynnna?

[mubb34]

Some badger fans think they would get all the top recruits if they were better students.  Jabari Parker would have gone to madison but couldn't get in so he settled for Duke (attached tweets).  Unreal!

I was in that conversation and we were all being sarcastic....All MU fans haha....

[VegasWarrior77]

I was in that conversation and we were all being sarcastic....All MU fans haha....

The reenactment was very good... some things I hear when I'm back in Wisky. Ugh!

[ChicosBailBonds]

DC Sports Bog
Diamond Stone says his ACT score and Under Armour aren’t why he chose Maryland over Wisconsin
By Scott Allen March 31 at 11:28 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/03/31/diamond-stone-says-his-act-score-and-under-armour-arent-why-he-chose-maryland-over-wisconsin/

Don’t worry, Maryland fans. No matter how Wisconsin fares at the Final Four this weekend, Terrapins basketball commit Diamond Stone isn’t changing his mind about playing in College Park next season.

“No chance,” Stone told the Glenn Clark Radio Show on Monday. “I’ve made my decision and I’m a man of my word. I’m committed to Maryland, so that’s where I’m going to go. There’s no backing up.”

Stone, a 6-foot-10, 250-pound center out of Dominican High in Milwaukee, is a consensus top 10 recruit who “wants to bring back a championship to College Park.”

In the days since he committed to Maryland last Friday, Stone has read all sorts of theories about why he isn’t going to Wisconsin. He’s also been subjected to vitriol from angry Badgers fans on social media.

“I get all the tweets, calling me a traitor, swearing at me,” Stone said. “I just ignore all that, turn my notifications off.”

The worst thing he’s heard?

“I got a three on my ACT, that was probably the worst,” Stone said. “It’s impossible, I don’t understand. Wisconsin fans are trying to find every little thing to get at me. My guidance counselor [asked me], ‘Do you want me to post your scores online to people know?’ I got a 20 on the ACT and I was all fine to go to Wisconsin. I could’ve went to Wisconsin, but I feel like Maryland is the place for me.”

Stone said that Under Armour, which sponsored his AAU team, didn’t play a factor in his decision to commit to Maryland, but the Terps’ strength coach did.

What a lovely class of fans....and yes, there are other fanbases that have them also.

[ecompt]

All fanbases have their morons, even MU. But UW's crowd takes it to a whole different level. Smug, elitist a-holes.