Official Transfer Thread

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

http://youtu.be/7EChnZTJicw

That is unreal.

[VegasWarrior77]

Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  3h3 hours ago
URI's Jarelle Reischel, Biggie Minnis, and Matt Butler will transfer, per the school. Reischel and Minnis will be eligible next season.

[VegasWarrior77]

Rob Dauster ‏@RobDauster  3h3 hours ago
Kethan Savage is transferring from George Washington, per the school. Big time athlete, double-figure scorer. One year of eligibility left.

Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  3h3 hours ago
GW's Kethan Savage will transfer, per the school. One year of eligibility remaining. HUGE A 10 news.

[PGsHeroes32]

Savage is a nice player

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

That was your interpretation to that? Me thinking he shouldn't take time to sort it out?

Not the fact that we have a 1/75 chance?

I don't buy that Marquette' program has 75 peers.  I give MU a 1 in 7 shot.  On the plus side, we've got Wojo (who does have great cred) and a history of success with grad transfers.  On the down side, some other programs will have a more experienced team to surround him with.

Both of you are underselling our chances. Respect the process

[PGsHeroes32]

Both of you are underselling our chances. Respect the process

Well I gave us a 1/75 so Id hope I'm underselling lol

[BM1090]

Well I gave us a 1/75 so Id hope I'm underselling lol

But if 1/7 is underselling our chances then I'm at least somewhat optimistic. Or just downright giddy.

[PGsHeroes32]

But if 1/7 is underselling our chances then I'm at least somewhat optimistic. Or just downright giddy.

Very true!!! But I don't think TAMU has a source on this one. I think it's wojo optimism. Which isn't a bad approach.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Very true!!! But I don't think TAMU has a source on this one. I think it's wojo optimism. Which isn't a bad approach.

Now you're underselling me 

[Dawson Rental]

Both of you are underselling our chances. Respect the process

Good to hear.

[PGsHeroes32]

Lee supposedly wants to go to a program that "needs me more than wants me and will help showcase my abilities".

If that is his top priority. He should def strongly consider MU. Badly needed and would be given a great shot to showcase himself as the go to guy(even over hank) from day 1.

[willie warrior]

Lee supposedly wants to go to a program that "needs me more than wants me and will help showcase my abilities".

If that is his top priority. He should def strongly consider MU. Badly needed and would be given a great shot to showcase himself as the go to guy(even over hank) from day 1.

Lesseee--we would be obligated to showcase the abilities of Hank, Lee, Fischer, Duane, Cheatham. That would be more showcases than Zale's. Does that fit into the Wojo/Duke philosophy?

[LloydsLegs]

Savage is a nice player

Saw a lot of him the last couple of years following GW (John Kopriva Jr captain of the team; Marquette High product; son of two MU grads; second team academic all american this year)  Savage is a decent all around guard.  Good handle, can get to the basket, rebounds, lousy 3 point shot.  Wouldn't pursue this one too hard.

[brewcity77]

Saw a lot of him the last couple of years following GW (John Kopriva Jr captain of the team; Marquette High product; son of two MU grads; second team academic all american this year)  Savage is a decent all around guard.  Good handle, can get to the basket, rebounds, lousy 3 point shot.  Wouldn't pursue this one too hard.

Savage supposedly wants to go somewhere that will let him play the point exclusively. I'd much rather an actual PG like Anthony Collins, Jordan Daniels, or Austin McBroom. If we're going to take a combo guard, Adam Smith or Trey Lewis seem like better bets than Savage.

Lesseee--we would be obligated to showcase the abilities of Hank, Lee, Fischer, Duane, Cheatham. That would be more showcases than Zale's. Does that fit into the Wojo/Duke philosophy?

I don't think anyone expects Cheatham to be "showcased" this year. Duane and Fischer will start. Ellenson and Lee would likely join them. Not sure who'd be at the point, but unless it was another scoring guard, there'd be plenty of shots for him to show what he can do. Out of those four, I'd expect Duane and Lee to be the two most likely to lead the team in scoring.

Lee does shoot a lot. He took a higher percentage of his team's shots than any Marquette player since Hayward on the Lazar and the Midgets team. But he also converts those shots. His eFG% has been over 51% in all three of his complete seasons and he's a career 37% shooter from three. I would expect some dropoff going from the CAA to the Big East, but Duane is already accustomed to being a second option after a year with Carlino. I think we're a great fit for Lee.

And while there are probably 20-30 teams that can make just as compelling an argument, I don't think he'd find shots as easy to come by at Maryland (Trimble, Layman, Carter all had 22.0+ Shot Percentage) and some of his other big name suitors. The one that is most worrisome may be Louisville, with Blackshear and Jones gone and Harrell and Rozier headed for the pros. Regardless, as TAMU points out, we do offer a good scenario. I agree that we are a real player here.

[Dawson Rental]

Savage supposedly wants to go somewhere that will let him play the point exclusively. I'd much rather an actual PG like Anthony Collins, Jordan Daniels, or Austin McBroom. If we're going to take a combo guard, Adam Smith or Trey Lewis seem like better bets than Savage.

I don't think anyone expects Cheatham to be "showcased" this year. Duane and Fischer will start. Ellenson and Lee would likely join them. Not sure who'd be at the point, but unless it was another scoring guard, there'd be plenty of shots for him to show what he can do. Out of those four, I'd expect Duane and Lee to be the two most likely to lead the team in scoring.

Lee does shoot a lot. He took a higher percentage of his team's shots than any Marquette player since Hayward on the Lazar and the Midgets team. But he also converts those shots. His eFG% has been over 51% in all three of his complete seasons and he's a career 37% shooter from three. I would expect some dropoff going from the CAA to the Big East, but Duane is already accustomed to being a second option after a year with Carlino. I think we're a great fit for Lee.

And while there are probably 20-30 teams that can make just as compelling an argument, I don't think he'd find shots as easy to come by at Maryland (Trimble, Layman, Carter all had 22.0+ Shot Percentage) and some of his other big name suitors. The one that is most worrisome may be Louisville, with Blackshear and Jones gone and Harrell and Rozier headed for the pros. Regardless, as TAMU points out, we do offer a good scenario. I agree that we are a real player here.

Do you know if Marquette is in the running for Lewis?

[brewcity77]

Do you know if Marquette is in the running for Lewis?

Haven't heard anything about Lewis at all. Right now I'd be mildly surprised if he didn't end up at Louisville. With how quickly their name was circulated for him, it almost felt like they might have had an inkling he was transferring before it was announced. Of course, that would never happen...

If we go for a combo, I'd rather have Adam Smith. Not just because it'd be taking Buzz's leading scorer, but he's proven he can put up points against high-major defenses.

[willie warrior]

Savage supposedly wants to go somewhere that will let him play the point exclusively. I'd much rather an actual PG like Anthony Collins, Jordan Daniels, or Austin McBroom. If we're going to take a combo guard, Adam Smith or Trey Lewis seem like better bets than Savage.

I don't think anyone expects Cheatham to be "showcased" this year. Duane and Fischer will start. Ellenson and Lee would likely join them. Not sure who'd be at the point, but unless it was another scoring guard, there'd be plenty of shots for him to show what he can do. Out of those four, I'd expect Duane and Lee to be the two most likely to lead the team in scoring.

Lee does shoot a lot. He took a higher percentage of his team's shots than any Marquette player since Hayward on the Lazar and the Midgets team. But he also converts those shots. His eFG% has been over 51% in all three of his complete seasons and he's a career 37% shooter from three. I would expect some dropoff going from the CAA to the Big East, but Duane is already accustomed to being a second option after a year with Carlino. I think we're a great fit for Lee.

And while there are probably 20-30 teams that can make just as compelling an argument, I don't think he'd find shots as easy to come by at Maryland (Trimble, Layman, Carter all had 22.0+ Shot Percentage) and some of his other big name suitors. The one that is most worrisome may be Louisville, with Blackshear and Jones gone and Harrell and Rozier headed for the pros. Regardless, as TAMU points out, we do offer a good scenario. I agree that we are a real player here.

You make a good case, but the idea with Fischer, Duane and Hank (along with JJJ, Cheatham, Amin), and Lee, while looking good on paper, just does not have enough balls on the court (especially from what Lee is already saying) to satisfy all those people. Just sayin'.

[brewcity77]

You make a good case, but the idea with Fischer, Duane and Hank (along with JJJ, Cheatham, Amin), and Lee, while looking good on paper, just does not have enough balls on the court (especially from what Lee is already saying) to satisfy all those people. Just sayin'.

Best players play. Simple as that.

EDIT: I'm not going to worry about having enough time or shots for the freshmen. They'll get what they earn. If they can force their way onto the court, great, but I wouldn't pencil Cheatham, Anim, or Heldt in for automatic minutes.

JJJ is the one guy that may expect time, but if he's choosing to stay, especially after seeing Burton and Dawson leave while also seeing a "hired gun" in Carlino come in, he should know that he'll have to earn his minutes. When challenged last year, it brought out the best in Jajuan. I would hope that a player like Lee would continue to bring out the best in him.

[wadesworld]

Best players play. Simple as that.

'xactly.  Lee was the 5th leading scorer in the country last year, and also averaged over 6 boards per game.  Sure he was at a lower level than the BE, but the kid can play and if we get him he will be able to showcase his talents big time here.  He'd be a 13-15 ppg guy.

[GGGG]

There was a reason he took a lot of shots last year.  If he ends up at a higher level program, he is going to be shooting less no matter where.  If he wanted to continue shooting a lot, he would have stayed at Drexel.

[PGsHeroes32]

There is also no telling what this would mean for JJJ anyways.

Wouldn't there be a chance that Wojo tries Duane and Lee together in the backcourt? Which keeps JJJs wing position open as a starter....assuming he beats out Sandy/Wally.

I know that's risky but didn't Lee have the ball in his hands a ton with minimal TOs?

[BM1090]

There is also no telling what this would mean for JJJ anyways.

Wouldn't there be a chance that Wojo tries Duane and Lee together in the backcourt? Which keeps JJJs wing position open as a starter....assuming he beats out Sandy/Wally.

I know that's risky but didn't Lee have the ball in his hands a ton with minimal TOs?

I want JJJ to stay, but if getting Lee means he looks elsewhere then so be it. I'd take one year of Lee over two years of JJJ. Both being here would obviously be ideal.

[brewcity77]

I know that's risky but didn't Lee have the ball in his hands a ton with minimal TOs?

It's not an impossible thought. I could see Duane playing as more of a lead guard. A lot will depend on the remaining scholarships. Currently, I'd expect Duane to get most of the minutes at the point with the only other option a freshman. If Wojo adds only Lee, I wouldn't see that changing. I still think they want another guard, though, which would likely be someone they expected to have the ball in his hands most of the time.

[PGsHeroes32]

It's not an impossible thought. I could see Duane playing as more of a lead guard. A lot will depend on the remaining scholarships. Currently, I'd expect Duane to get most of the minutes at the point with the only other option a freshman. If Wojo adds only Lee, I wouldn't see that changing. I still think they want another guard, though, which would likely be someone they expected to have the ball in his hands most of the time.

Agreed. I think tge completely hypothetical situation of Lee being on the team makes someone like Collins that much more enticing. Hes not a big scorer but with Duane, Lee, Hank and Luke together he doesn't need to be. He has experience getting 5 assists a game for South Florida.

Just thought that if we didn't get another PG that Duane/Lee would be capable. Also while JJJ sure as heck can't be the primary ball handler, when we get in half court or the open court he has some excellent passing abities. So while no true point. That situation would leave us with 3 capable guards out there.

[brewcity77]

Agreed. I think tge completely hypothetical situation of Lee being on the team makes someone like Collins that much more enticing. Hes not a big scorer but with Duane, Lee, Hank and Luke together he doesn't need to be. He has experience getting 5 assists a game for South Florida.

+1

If I could pick any two players, it'd probably be Lee and Collins. I'm also a fan of Miller, but think it would be difficult to get all those guys to coexist.