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Will Wojo Outperform Mike Deane after 5 Years

Yes
113 (89.7%)
No
23 (18.3%)

Total Members Voted: 126

brewcity77

Quote from: NersEllenson on January 23, 2015, 05:19:28 PMYou fail to understand context.  IN Heldt's case, he likely will be apprenticing behind Luke Fischer - a Top 60 recruit himself coming out of high school, who is contributing at a very nice level.  Additionally, I don't see a guy like Heldt being ready to contribute as a freshman - he is the type of player like what Bo Ryan has had success with at Madison.  A multi-skilled big guy, that needs time to add strength, and be ready to play.  Bigs generally aren't as developed as guards.

As for Nick - who knows how that will go down.  But again, context.  If you are on a team of 10-12 scholarship players, your expectations for PT should go down (than being on a team of 8).  Furthermore, if the team is winning and you are sitting, and the guy in front of you is performing - you can stomach that better.

No, actually I don't. Yous Mbao was behind Lazar, who was performing, he opted to transfer. E-Will and Jamail Jones were behind Jimmy and Jae, who were producing, and both opted to transfer. Jamal Ferguson was behind Vander and Lockett, who were producing, and opted to transfer. And whether you choose to accept it or not, Dawson was behind Derrick, who was at the very least producing at a higher level (ORtg not even close last year, Derrick has been productive this year) and opted to transfer.

So why would these guys be different if forced to wait until their junior years?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Ners, I'm curious what you think about the University of Florida.

I think it is fair to look at a player's high school ranking when evaluating what an incoming freshman. I think after their first season of playing, it becomes pretty irrelevant. What they've produced on the court is what you need to look at.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Texas Western

Quote from: MU82 on January 23, 2015, 03:04:04 PM
++ Stupid poll?

-OR-

++ Really stupid poll?

You decide!
In the meantime we would like your opinion. Enquiring minds want to know.

T-Bone

This poll relies on one thing and one thing only. What does MikeDeanesDarkGlasses think?  The ultimate insider.
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MU82

Quote from: Texas Western on January 23, 2015, 07:38:00 PM
In the meantime we would like your opinion. Enquiring minds want to know.

I vote neither of the above, because it's obviously a really, really stupid poll!
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Texas Western

Quote from: MU82 on January 23, 2015, 10:46:44 PM
I vote neither of the above, because it's obviously a really, really stupid poll!
Deane was one of our best coaches in MU history. Why wouldn't we want to compare Wojo to him? All you keep saying it is stupid but give no reason? I thought MU taught you better than that.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Texas Western on January 23, 2015, 10:51:08 PM
Deane was one of our best coaches in MU history. Why wouldn't we want to compare Wojo to him? All you keep saying it is stupid but give no reason? I thought MU taught you better than that.

I would rank Deane as our 2nd worst coach in the post Al era.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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keefe

Quote from: Texas Western on January 23, 2015, 10:51:08 PM
Deane was one of our best coaches in MU history.

Sure. With another guy's recruits.

Ladaryl Billingsley.



Death on call

willie warrior

Did not vote--should have one that said Hopefully. Deane's record for 5 years was pretty good, and he did well for the resources he had. Different eras. Different conferences. Wojo definitely has better resources. Bigger budget, bigger staff, still has Buzz's old jet I assume, and better connections.

Wojo will likely do better than Deane, and hopefully significantly better, but this first year is not looking good. Wojo should be able to recruit a heck of a lot better. Have not heard that he spends a lot of his recruiting time in the watering holes, and his first real class is looking good. Deane did do a decent job, all things considered.
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willie warrior

Quote from: Texas Western on January 23, 2015, 10:51:08 PM
Deane was one of our best coaches in MU history. Why wouldn't we want to compare Wojo to him? All you keep saying it is stupid but give no reason? I thought MU taught you better than that.
Huh???
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

willie warrior

Quote from: Ellenson for an mu-rara on January 23, 2015, 01:29:15 PM
Based on:

How much fun I had drinking Bud Lights with Deano at Turner's after a win.  Deano is the clear winner.

Long time vision to build a quality program.  Wojo without a doubt.

As much fun as drinking with MD was,  I hope I never drink a beer with Wojo in my life.
There is no fun drinking Bud Light! It is horse piss! Wait--there would be some fun drinking Bud Light with kate Upton, hoping wistfully for a score at the end of the drinking session with her.
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