3100 Students, 1500 ATHLETES Implicated In The UNC Cheating Scandal

[Tugg Speedman]

So will UNC have to vacate every victory in every sport for the last 20 years?  Will it matter?

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Univ. of North Carolina chancellor: 9 employees fired or being disciplined in academic scandal

http://www.startribune.com/nation/280072212.html



CHAPEL HILL, N.C. — More than 3,100 students — nearly half of them athletes — enrolled in classes they didn't have to show up for and received artificially inflated grades in what an investigator called a "shadow curriculum" that lasted nearly two decades at the University of North Carolina.

The report released Wednesday by former high-ranking U.S. Justice Department official Kenneth Wainstein found more far-reaching academic fraud than previous investigations by the school and the NCAA.

Many at the university hoped Wainstein's investigation would bring some closure to the long-running scandal, which is rooted in an NCAA investigation focused on improper benefits within the football program in 2010. Instead, findings of a systemic problem in the former African and Afro-American Studies department could lead to NCAA sanctions. At least nine university employees were fired or have had disciplinary procedures started against them in light of the report, chancellor Carol Folt said. She wouldn't identify them.

"I think it's very clear that this is an academic, an athletic and a university problem," Folt said.

The report outlined courses in the former African and Afro-American Studies department that required only a research paper that was often scanned quickly and given an A or B regardless of the quality of work.

The NCAA hit the football program in 2012 with scholarship reductions and a postseason ban, though the academic violations focused mainly on a tutor providing improper help to players on papers. The NCAA said it reopened its investigation in June because new information was available.

Wainstein's staff has briefed NCAA investigators at least three times, and plans another meeting on the final report.

The report outlined how the fraud ran unchecked for so long, as well as how faculty and administration officials missed or looked past red flags, such as unusually high numbers of independent study course enrollments.

It said athletics staffers steered athletes to classes that also became popular with fraternities and other everyday students looking for an easy grade.

"By the mid-2000s, these classes had become a primary — if not the primary — way that struggling athletes kept themselves from having eligibility problems," the report said.

The school hired Wainstein in February. Unlike previous inquiries by former Gov. Jim Martin and the school, Wainstein had the cooperation of former department chairman Julius Nyang'oro and retired office administrator Deborah Crowder — the two people at the center of the scandal.

Nyang'oro was indicted in December on a felony fraud charge, though it was dropped after he agreed to cooperate with Wainstein's probe. Crowder was never charged.

It was Crowder who started the paper classes as a way to help struggling students with "watered-down requirements" not long after Nyang'oro became chairman of the curriculum in 1992, according to the report. Though not a faculty member, she managed the courses by registering students, assigning them topics and then handing out high grades regardless of the work.

By 1999, in an apparent effort to work around the number of independent studies students could take, Crowder began offering lecture classes that didn't meet and were instead paper classes.

After her retirement in 2009, Nyang'oro graded papers "with an eye to boosting" a student's grade-point average, even asking Crowder's successor to look up GPAs before he'd issue a grade for a course, according to the report.

Nyang'oro stepped down in 2011 as chairman after accusations of undetected plagiarism surfaced against a former football player.

In all, athletes made up about 47 percent of the enrollments in the 188 lecture-classified paper classes. Of that group, 51 percent were football players.

Wainstein's staff reviewed records dating to the 1980s and interviewed 126 people, including men's basketball coach Roy Williams, who said he trusted the school "to put on legitimate classes," according to the report.

Former basketball player Rashad McCants, who told ESPN in June that tutors wrote research papers for him and that Williams was aware that of no-show classes, didn't respond to numerous requests for interviews, according to the report.

[tower912]

This is going to end poorly.

[brandx]

This is going to end poorly.

Shocking news!!! As Greg Brown sang "Who Woulda Thunk It"?

[Groin_pull]

This is going to end poorly.

Yeah, for some poor mid-major. You think mighty UNC hoops will be brought to its knees? Nah.

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Benny B]

So any chance their 1977 runner-upionship is vacated, and if so, do we get to raise a banner for being the champion and the runner-up?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

So any chance their 1977 runner-upionship is vacated, and if so, do we get to raise a banner for being the champion and the runner-up?

Unfortunately for marquette that took place about 20 years prior to the allegations. Crazy to think that 1977 was almost 40 years ago now.

[jesmu84]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/11745036/north-carolina-investigation-says-advisers-pushed-sham-classes

"A report commissioned by the University of North Carolina says school academic advisers steered athletes into sham classes over an 18-year period but does not directly implicate coaches or athletic administrators in the scheme."

No coaches and no athletic administrators. It's all those evil academic people's fault.

[Eldon]

Yeah, for some poor mid-major. You think mighty UNC hoops will be brought to its knees? Nah.

I'll believe it when I see it.

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Agreed.  I lost a huge amount of respect for the NCAA after it pulled back heavily on its Penn State sanctions.

BTW, whatever happened to Miami?  Those guys had a baseball violation and then BAM that football scandal hit.  Back then, they were talking death penalty for Miami.  But then the PSU scandal broke and I don't ever remember hearing anything about Miami.

Were they even punished?

[StillAWarrior]

Damn.  Cleveland State's going to get put on probation.

[1990Warrior]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/us/unc-report-academic-fraud/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

3 national championships in jeopardy.

I wonder how other schools would stand up to such an investigation.

[Wade for President]

This is a massive blow to UNC's reputation.  I don't see how their AD survives this.  What could a 3-5 yr postseason ban do to their recruiting efforts?

Gotta imagine Wojo and Carawell are smiling about this one.

[Groin_pull]

They'll get a slap on the wrist because they "cooperated" with the NCAA.

Do you really think UNC hoops will be brought to its kness? C'mon.

[mu03eng]

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Agreed.  I lost a huge amount of respect for the NCAA after it pulled back heavily on its Penn State sanctions.

I'll bite, why?  NCAA never should have been involved in the first place.  They walked back the sanctions because if they didn't it was going to turn into a PR fiasco and now they are less likely to lose upcoming legal actions.

[GGGG]

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Agreed.  I lost a huge amount of respect for the NCAA after it pulled back heavily on its Penn State sanctions.

BTW, whatever happened to Miami?  Those guys had a baseball violation and then BAM that football scandal hit.  Back then, they were talking death penalty for Miami.  But then the PSU scandal broke and I don't ever remember hearing anything about Miami.

Were they even punished?

Yeah they lost some scholarships.

BTW,  if you think the NCAA is going to go back to the days of the death penalty, you are mistaken.  It is a toothless organization that doles out relatively minor penalties these days.

My guess is UNC's football team will lose some scholarships, but that's about it.

[MU82]

Maybe I'm a little warped, but the first thing I thought of when I saw the headline yesterday was that fewer than half of those implicated were athletes.

Not condoning the athletic side of it one iota, but I wonder what the punishments and/or solutions will be for the non-athletic side of things.

[GGGG]

Maybe I'm a little warped, but the first thing I thought of when I saw the headline yesterday was that fewer than half of those implicated were athletes.

Not condoning the athletic side of it one iota, but I wonder what the punishments and/or solutions will be for the non-athletic side of things.

I supposed their accreditation could be at risk.  But I doubt that will happen.  Very likely they will get a harsh talking to from the Higher Learning Commission and they'll have to write up a bunch of reports saying it won't happen again.

[ChicosBailBonds]

African American studies you say?  Interesting.

Wonder if the media looked into each school's preferred major of athletes at each school what the distribution would be.  There's a reason kids pick certain majors.  MU would pop off the charts with Communications for basketball. 

That doesn't make any of those other schools fraudulent in what they are doing, of course.  My point is that kids are steered toward certain majors at schools all the time.  In this case, sounds like you showed up and got the grade, and that's the key difference.  We shouldn't pretend, however, that athletes are often shown the easiest way to reach the finish line and stay eligible, and it happens pretty much everywhere.  MU is no exception.

[GGGG]

African American studies you say?  Interesting.

Why?  What is so interesting about it?

[jsglow]

I supposed their accreditation could be at risk.  But I doubt that will happen.  Very likely they will get a harsh talking to from the Higher Learning Commission and they'll have to write up a bunch of reports saying it won't happen again.

Unfortunately probably true.  MU routinely prepares diligently for all its accreditation reviews.  UNC should be slapped and slapped hard.  If I were a parent writing a tuition check to that place I'd be plenty POd.  My kids are far from perfect but there's no damn 'basket weaving' in their respective curriculums.

And let me add from a basketball standpoint that jsglow jr. has tons of exposure to our basketball players.  They take 'real' classes in 'real' majors and while accomodations are made (travel, for example), they are expected to perform just like the next guy.  Sure they get tutors; sure they get help.  But they are absolutely expected to be student athletes.  Rant over.

[brandx]

Why?  What is so interesting about it?

Indeed!

[warriorchick]

Maybe I'm a little warped, but the first thing I thought of when I saw the headline yesterday was that fewer than half of those implicated were athletes.

Not condoning the athletic side of it one iota, but I wonder what the punishments and/or solutions will be for the non-athletic side of things.

The other students were members of their highly-ranked show choir. That competition is brutal. Have you not seen "Pitch Perfect"?

[GGGG]

The other students were members of their highly-ranked show choir. That competition is brutal. Have you not seen "Pitch Perfect"?

I used to say at my kid's high school that the athletic coaches could *never* get away with what the music program teachers got away with.  The time commitment for practice and performance?  The money commitment?  And people think that high school athletics is over-emphasized?

[Ellenson Guerrero]

They'll get a slap on the wrist because they "cooperated" with the NCAA.

Do you really think UNC hoops will be brought to its kness? C'mon.

I doubt the NCAA will do anything of substance, but you never know.  Just ask SMU.

[MUWarrior4Life]

Uh oh, maybe Tokoto transfers back home!!!!

[tower912]

I used to say at my kid's high school that the athletic coaches could *never* get away with what the music program teachers got away with.  The time commitment for practice and performance?  The money commitment?  And people think that high school athletics is over-emphasized?

Football coaches never have their kids out playing exhibition games 30 weeks out of the year like the Cappella Choir director my daughter had. 

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah, for some poor mid-major. You think mighty UNC hoops will be brought to its knees? Nah.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Yeah, and Cleveland State will receives the Death penalty.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Why?  What is so interesting about it?

I attended a number of NACMA, NAADA, etc meetings over the years where college AD's, college sports marketers congregate at their annual convention.  It is also interesting to get the perspective's of other schools, especially the bigger ones, around the academic side of the house.  At MU, we didn't have P.E. or Sports Management or Ag school.  Some of the conversations were around what their schools were doing to entice potential students to come play for them.  Adding African American studies was one of the more hot topic majors to include that would have a double effect of coming across as diverse and also attracting students.  Those are good reasons to do those things.  THe more candid conversation typically came later have a few hit the happy sauce, and the reasons for adding those programs weren't quite so charming and holistic, in my opinion.

[GGGG]

I attended a number of NACMA, NAADA, etc meetings over the years where college AD's, college sports marketers congregate at their annual convention.  It is also interesting to get the perspective's of other schools, especially the bigger ones, around the academic side of the house.  At MU, we didn't have P.E. or Sports Management or Ag school.  Some of the conversations were around what their schools were doing to entice potential students to come play for them.  Adding African American studies was one of the more hot topic majors to include that would have a double effect of coming across as diverse and also attracting students.  Those are good reasons to do those things.  THe more candid conversation typically came later have a few hit the happy sauce, and the reasons for adding those programs weren't quite so charming and holistic, in my opinion.

Ah OK...thanks for the explanation.

[Tugg Speedman]

[GooooMarquette]

Interesting that UNC is a member of AAU - that supposed indicator of a high-quality institution that's required for admission to the Big Tewlethirfourteen.  If AAU membership really means anything, it seems UNC ought to be suspended or booted if the allegations prove true.  I know AAU is mostly focused on research and graduate education, but the criteria also include the following:

The Committee assesses the institution’s undergraduate programs to determine that the institution is meeting its commitment to undergraduate education.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Interesting that UNC is a member of AAU - that supposed indicator of a high-quality institution that's required for admission to the Big Tewlethirfourteen.  If AAU membership really means anything, it seems UNC ought to be suspended or booted if the allegations prove true.  I know AAU is mostly focused on research and graduate education, but the criteria also include the following:

The Committee assesses the institution’s undergraduate programs to determine that the institution is meeting its commitment to undergraduate education.

Maybe the happens.  Michigan, Wisconsin, Oregon, Washington, etc are all AAU institutions and all have had special programs to admit athletes for years.  By special programs I mean majors that are are predominantly filled with athletes knowing it's an easier ride through to stay eligible.  Does it take away from what 99.9% of the rest of the students are doing, or the researchers, etc?  Probably not, but you could make a strong argument that the AAU is certainly not pleased.  They just don't look at things at that level as you correctly point out. 

[GGGG]

I supposed their accreditation could be at risk.  But I doubt that will happen.  Very likely they will get a harsh talking to from the Higher Learning Commission and they'll have to write up a bunch of reports saying it won't happen again.

This is what I was talking about...

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2014-10-30/ncaa-unc-academic-scandal-accreditation-roy-williams-tar-heels-fake-classes-sacs?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[77ncaachamps]

Uh oh, maybe Tokoto transfers back home!!!!

I thought about that. Was he even affected by this at all?

The report viewed the years over an 18-year period from 1993 to 2011. So, he wasn't directly a recipient of said assistance.

BUT with all the negative blowback, he may just transfer.

The program will be "dead" during his remaining years.

[GGGG]

JPT got 28 mpg last year.  He's not going anywhere.

[77ncaachamps]

JPT got 28 mpg last year.  He's not going anywhere.

Yeah. That can all change when sanctions are announced and he can never play in the postseason again.

[warriorchick]

If any of this is true, wow.  Just wow.

http://deadspin.com/former-unc-player-details-academic-fraud-says-everybo-1657041495


Former Tar Heels football player Tydreke Powell called into North Carolina radio station WJMH this morning and provided some interesting details about the academic misconduct that allegedly involved hundreds of UNC athletes.


Powell quoted former football coach Butch Davis as telling players, "If you all came here for an education, you should have gone to Harvard," while explaining that players were directed to take classes in the now-notorious AFAM department.

Powell says he took a paper class, and that "everybody knew" the nature of them. He also told the WJMH hosts that players were instructed to fail learning disability assessment tests so as to ensure players would be provided assistance during tests and for note-taking.

When asked about UNC basketball coach Roy Williams, Powell called Williams a "snake," and said students sought out classes in which basketball players were enrolled because that was a sure sign there'd be no actual work involved.

Finally, Powell threw in an anecdote about how a female student did all the work for one athlete, after which "we all ran a train on her."

[Tugg Speedman]

It's true in that Powell called the radio station and said those things.

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If the school was named, say Memphis, they would be stripped of accreditation and thrown out of the conference.

Instead the school is named UNC.  This means instead of looking at how to punish them, everyone is trying to figure out how to cover this up without ruining their reputations. 

[77ncaachamps]

It's true in that Powell called the radio station and said those things.

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If the school was named, say Memphis, they would be stripped of accreditation and thrown out of the conference.

Instead the school is named UNC.  This means instead of looking at how to punish them, everyone is trying to figure out how to cover this up without ruining their reputations. 

One of the establishments of the highly celebrated Research Triangle and the flagship of NC's state universities, I can expect heads to roll but possible light sentencing on behalf of the NCAA.

[Dr. Blackheart]

UNC receives notice of allegations...on slow news day Friday before the holiday.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2015-05-22/unc-academic-scandal-fraud-cheating-notice-of-allegations-ncaa-latest-update

[brandx]

Roy Williams said “it would help if the NCAA would just tell us what the allegations are."


That's the funniest part of this whole thing.

[Lennys Tap]

Roy Williams said “it would help if the NCAA would just tell us what the allegations are."


That's the funniest part of this whole thing.

Ol' Roy whining about being the most investigated program in NCAA history and how it hurts recruiting is despicable.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Ol' Roy whining about being the most investigated program in NCAA history and how it hurts recruiting is despicable.

I was literally going to post just that until I got the warning that a new reply had been posted. Good stuff!!

[Tugg Speedman]

Roy Williams said “it would help if the NCAA would just tell us what the allegations are."


That's the funniest part of this whole thing.

+1

Get ready Roy, you are about to be told.

Thinking down the road ... typically when a school is sanctioned, they allow transfers without sitting out.  What happens to UNC sports if this scandal means every single sport is sanctioned and athletes in every sport is allowed to transfer without sitting?

Not everyone can transfer because other schools are out of scholarships.  But the best in every sport might transfer so they can compete in NCAA championships next year.  Does this mean that all UNC sports dive to among the worst in the ACC?

If this is case, this could be devastating.  A lot of these sports will not recover.  A lot of highly thought of coaches will leave.  

Again I'm not saying UNC disappears or drop sports or anything this drastic.  Instead I think they might go from a school that has teams that are competing for ACC and national championships to school that is consistently 4th to 9th in the ACC.  And after a few years like this, and enough high profile coaches turning over, soon we forget they were among the best sports programs in the ACC.  They become North Carolina State ... just another ACC sports program that is just there without passion or excellence.

[77ncaachamps]

+1

Get ready Roy, you are about to be told.

Thinking down the road ... typically when a school is sanctioned, they allow transfers without sitting out.  What happens to UNC sports if this scandal means every single sport is sanctioned and athletes in every sport is allowed to transfer without sitting?

Not everyone can transfer because other schools are out of scholarships.  But the best in every sport might transfer so they can compete in NCAA championships next year.  Does this mean that all UNC sports dive to among the worst in the ACC?

If this is case, this could be devastating.  A lot of these sports will not recover.  A lot of highly thought of coaches will leave.  

Again I'm not saying UNC disappears or drop sports or anything this drastic.  Instead I think they might go from a school that has teams that are competing for ACC and national championships to school that is consistently 4th to 9th in the ACC.  And after a few years like this, and enough high profile coaches turning over, soon we forget they were among the best sports programs in the ACC.  They become North Carolina State ... just another ACC sports program that is just there without passion or excellence.

COME HOME to MU, TOKOTO!

I guess he saw the writing on the wall...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/unc-s-jp-tokoto-to-declare-for-the-2015-nba-draft-130246490-nba.html

[rocket surgeon]

COME HOME to MU, TOKOTO!

I guess he saw the writing on the wall...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/unc-s-jp-tokoto-to-declare-for-the-2015-nba-draft-130246490-nba.html

shoot, given the rigorous academic demands unc placed on it's "student athletes" during their years there, jp might have his work cut out for him and studying an nba handbook may present some real challenges-maybe he'll drop out of nba to go back to unc to play ball-might be a little easier

[jesmu84]

Well, according to Jeff Goodman, "NCAA's notice to UNC seems to have spared Williams"

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13013267/north-carolina-tar-heels-notice-allegations-ncaa-looks-favorable-coach-roy-williams

Seriously. How the unnatural carnal knowledge will he get away unscathed in this?

[brewcity77]

Well, according to Jeff Goodman, "NCAA's notice to UNC seems to have spared Williams"

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13013267/north-carolina-tar-heels-notice-allegations-ncaa-looks-favorable-coach-roy-williams

Seriously. How the unnatural carnal knowledge will he get away unscathed in this?

Don't worry, I'm sure UNC-Asheville will suffer any penalties not levied on Roy. Maybe that's why Rowsey got out when he did, avoiding the transitive state school penalty law that usually spills to smaller state schools.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Well, according to Jeff Goodman, "NCAA's notice to UNC seems to have spared Williams"

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13013267/north-carolina-tar-heels-notice-allegations-ncaa-looks-favorable-coach-roy-williams

Seriously. How the unnatural carnal knowledge will he get away unscathed in this?

If they tug on the thread hard enough, they'll get to John Swofford (the current ACC commissioner and former UNC AD that was a part of the lack of oversight at UNC).  I'm sure there's a lot of people that don't want names mentioned in the report to protect not just themselves but each other too.

Penn State had all of its wins, championships and scholarships restored (despite them being taken away due to the Jerry Sandusky scandal).  Miami had nothing taken away - despite it being proven Nevin Shapiro had funneled money to current and former players during their glory years.  UNC will avoid any major penalties as well, IMO.  

[Tugg Speedman]

Well, according to Jeff Goodman, "NCAA's notice to UNC seems to have spared Williams"

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13013267/north-carolina-tar-heels-notice-allegations-ncaa-looks-favorable-coach-roy-williams

Seriously. How the unnatural carnal knowledge will he get away unscathed in this?

If you watch the video it Goodman guesses Williams is OK because he is named only once in the 59 page report.  He does not have a source that says this is the case.

Regarding this case, Goodman notes this time line ....

North Carolina has 90 days to submit its response to the Notice of Allegations (which was received in May 20). The NCAA's enforcement staff then has 60 days to send its own response, which is followed by a hearing before the Committee of Infractions (COI) that will likely occur sometime in the fall. The COI will then release its final report, which includes the penalties, six to eight weeks after the hearing.

So we won't know for sure until the end of the year.  In the meantime ...

Multiple sources told ESPN that North Carolina's recent struggles on the recruiting trail are largely because of the uncertainty on whether the program will receive a postseason ban. The Tar Heels wound up signing two fringe top-100 players in the Class of 2015. And one, Kenny Williams, was a former VCU signee who re-opened his recruitment after Shaka Smart left for Texas.

The pending NCAA investigation it making it difficult for North Carolina to remain among the elite teams in the country. Cunningham said he hoped to learn the sanctions from the NCAA by the end of the calendar year. The NCAA's has proved to be unpredictable in providing an exact timeline.

[jesmu84]

If you watch the video it Goodman guesses Williams is OK because he is named only once in the 59 page report.  He does not have a source that says this is the case.

Regarding this case, Goodman notes this time line ....

North Carolina has 90 days to submit its response to the Notice of Allegations (which was received in May 20). The NCAA's enforcement staff then has 60 days to send its own response, which is followed by a hearing before the Committee of Infractions (COI) that will likely occur sometime in the fall. The COI will then release its final report, which includes the penalties, six to eight weeks after the hearing.

So we won't know for sure until the end of the year.  In the meantime ...

Multiple sources told ESPN that North Carolina's recent struggles on the recruiting trail are largely because of the uncertainty on whether the program will receive a postseason ban. The Tar Heels wound up signing two fringe top-100 players in the Class of 2015. And one, Kenny Williams, was a former VCU signee who re-opened his recruitment after Shaka Smart left for Texas.

The pending NCAA investigation it making it difficult for North Carolina to remain among the elite teams in the country. Cunningham said he hoped to learn the sanctions from the NCAA by the end of the calendar year. The NCAA's has proved to be unpredictable in providing an exact timeline.

1. "guesses" vs. "seems".... kinda the same thing, no?

2. Are you really trying to correct someone on a post when you believe said post to be incorrect in its description of an event? You're the king of that. Maybe I'm just trying to generate views with my post. Is that wrong? Pot meet kettle.

[Tugg Speedman]

1. "guesses" vs. "seems".... kinda the same thing, no?

2. Are you really trying to correct someone on a post when you believe said post to be incorrect in its description of an event? You're the king of that. Maybe I'm just trying to generate views with my post. Is that wrong? Pot meet kettle.

I assumed your comment was from reading the story only.  I added color from watching the video.

[rocket surgeon]

Roy Williams said “it would help if the NCAA would just tell us what the allegations are."


That's the funniest part of this whole thing.

i think he knows, but want to know WHICH ONES they are going to have to justify/defend-heyna?

in other words, we're aren't going to show you our **** until you show us yours

[Tugg Speedman]

i think he knows, but want to know WHICH ONES they are going to have to justify/defend-heyna?

in other words, we're aren't going to show you our **** until you show us yours

Again here is the timeline:

North Carolina has 90 days to submit its response to the Notice of Allegations (which was received in May 20). The NCAA's enforcement staff then has 60 days to send its own response, which is followed by a hearing before the Committee of Infractions (COI) that will likely occur sometime in the fall. The COI will then release its final report, which includes the penalties, six to eight weeks after the hearing.

So you're saying the NCAA is just like FIFA and the fix is in and what will result from this timeline has already been decided (and Goodman knows what it will be) and the rest is kabuki theater.

Actually I buy this!!! ... now that Sepp Blatter is unemployed, maybe he can run the NCAA.

[Spotcheck Billy]

...and SACS places UNC on 1 year probation (again)

[Spotcheck Billy]

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

This has to be fake right?

[rocket surgeon]

the onion??

who needs the integrity talk?  and whitney must have been the the teachers pet-heyyyna?  funny visual

[source?]

This has to be fake right?

Talk about a smoking gun. It's too perfect.

[Spotcheck Billy]

This has to be fake right?

it is NOT fake, just a part of what PackPride has uncovered in the data dump UNC released

[tower912]

If that e-mail is legit, either the TA involved was deliberately leaving a paper trail, or was incredibly indiscreet.   Unless building a paper trail, a conversation like that should take place face-to-face. 

[Benny B]

If that e-mail is legit, either the TA involved was deliberately leaving a paper trail, or was incredibly indiscreet.   Unless building a paper trail, a conversation like that should take place face-to-face.

I wonder if any UNC professors in unrelated programs are calling out her incompetence in a blog entry.

[#UnleashSean]

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Agreed.  I lost a huge amount of respect for the NCAA after it pulled back heavily on its Penn State sanctions.

Why's that? One guy was dead, the other in prison. Why are you for punishing players and coaches who were not even there at the time?

[naginiF]

Why's that? One guy was dead, the other in prison. Why are you for punishing players and coaches who were not even there at the time?

That type of claiming ignorance/cover up/denial of administrative knowledge is indicative of a systemic problem and not just the acts of two people.  The only reason to think that the system and administration shouldn't be held accountable beyond those two is if you believe the academic and scholastic branches of a university are, and should be treated, separately.

*edit - just realized you pulled a quote from a year ago.  I retract my post on the grounds of "that horse has been beaten enough"

[Spotcheck Billy]

UNC leaders reject finding that administrators meddled in controversial sports history class

UNC-Chapel Hill Chancellor Carol Folt and the Board of Trustees have rejected a faculty grievance committee's report concluding that senior administrators pressured the history department over the scheduling of a class that delved into UNC's athletics scandal.

Provost Bob Blouin and Folt rejected the faculty committee's recommendations, and the trustees upheld Folt's decision on March 29, according to documents obtained by The News & Observer.

Last year, a three-member faculty panel ruled in favor of Jay Smith, a UNC history professor and frequent critic of the university's handling of the long-running scandal involving no-show classes for athletes.

Smith had filed a grievance alleging that his course, History 383, "Big-Time College Sports and the Rights of Athletes," drew undue attention and intervention from Kevin Guskiewicz, dean of the College of Arts and Sciences.

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