Lindy's MU prediction

[tower912]

They have MU finishing 9th in the Big East.   Only BE team they have in their top 40 is Nova.    So, 9th in a bad league.   

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

They have MU finishing 9th in the Big East.   Only BE team they have in their top 40 is Nova.    So, 9th in a bad league.   

I'm trying to be unbiased and see what he sees. But no chance in hell we finish below Depaul, Butler and Creighton. Others fine I can see it but not those 3.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm trying to be unbiased and see what he sees. But no chance in hell we finish below Depaul, Butler and Creighton. Others fine I can see it but not those 3.

On paper, Butler and Creighton should both be better than us. Creighton only lost 65% of their offense, we lost 71%. And Creighton was much better than us. Butler gets their leading scorer back from injury and only loses 45% of their offense.

Now I agree that we are better than both of these teams, but if we are to be unbiased, you have to look at the numbers. And the numbers say we are 9th best.

[brandx]

On paper, Butler and Creighton should both be better than us. Creighton only lost 65% of their offense, we lost 71%. And Creighton was much better than us. Butler gets their leading scorer back from injury and only loses 45% of their offense.

Now I agree that we are better than both of these teams, but if we are to be unbiased, you have to look at the numbers. And the numbers say we are 9th best.

We needed to lose a lot of those numbers - a lot of them were put up by bad players.

Whoever starts at SG will put up better numbers than Thomas. And, Carlino will put up exponentially better numbers than Derrick. Burton will put up better numbers than we got from that position last year. And, I even think Fischer/Taylor will put up better numbers than Gardner/Otule.

The Creighton numbers are meaningless as well as they lost the player who always put up big numbers, as well as opened up opportunities for other players.

My prediction is somewhere from 3rd to 6th. and being on the bubble in March, if we stay injury free. (All predicated on Burton getting 30 minutes a game.)

[GoldenWarrior11]

At least we weren't picked 11th

[real chili 83]

Who does Lindy work for?

[Texas Western]

They have MU finishing 9th in the Big East.   Only BE team they have in their top 40 is Nova.    So, 9th in a bad league.   

Clearly an uninformed web site.

[MU_Beav]

Who does Lindy work for?

Number 2.

[bilsu]

We could finish a lot higher, but there is no reason to think we are anywhere better than 10th.

[MU82]

We needed to lose a lot of those numbers - a lot of them were put up by bad players.

Whoever starts at SG will put up better numbers than Thomas. And, Carlino will put up exponentially better numbers than Derrick. Burton will put up better numbers than we got from that position last year. And, I even think Fischer/Taylor will put up better numbers than Gardner/Otule.

The Creighton numbers are meaningless as well as they lost the player who always put up big numbers, as well as opened up opportunities for other players.

Not sure about Fischer/Taylor being better than Gardner/Otule, but otherwise I agree with everything here. Especially the part about Creighton.

I mean, last year's Lakers didn't just lose a percentage of their offense, they lost Kobe Bryant. That transcends a percentage of points. And though McDermott isn't Kobe Bryant, he was Creighton's Kobe Bryant.

I could see us finishing anywhere from 3rd through 9th. We'll finish toward the top end of that range if you were right about Fischer/Taylor, as of course I hope you are!

[Johnny B]

I predict MU 3-7

[Anti-Dentite]

Number 2.

Who....does.... number.... 2.... work.... for?????

[MarquetteDano]

Ninth is simply too low, unbiased or not.  Too much talent on this team to finish ninth.  One could only place Marquette ninth if you figured Wojo can't coach at all.

I wonder if you made a prop bet in Vegas that Marquette would finish 9th or 10th what kind of odds you would get.  Has Marquette since joining the MCC in the early 90's ever finished second to last (or worse) in any conference we were affiliated with?

[Johnny B]

Ninth is simply too low, unbiased or not.  Too much talent on this team to finish ninth.  One could only place Marquette ninth if you figured Wojo can't coach at all.

I wonder if you made a prop bet in Vegas that Marquette would finish 9th or 10th what kind of odds you would get.  Has Marquette since joining the MCC in the early 90's ever finished second to last (or worse) in any conference we were affiliated with?

Completely agree Its ludacris to think this team will finish 9th, I'd put big money on it

[79Warrior]

Ninth is simply too low, unbiased or not.  Too much talent on this team to finish ninth.  One could only place Marquette ninth if you figured Wojo can't coach at all.

I wonder if you made a prop bet in Vegas that Marquette would finish 9th or 10th what kind of odds you would get.  Has Marquette since joining the MCC in the early 90's ever finished second to last (or worse) in any conference we were affiliated with?

To an outsider, Marquette is a major rebuild. The talent you reference is largely untested, so I can see how the media looks at Marquette as
a bottom of the conference team. Let's hope we, in fact, have too much talent.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Who....does.... number.... 2.... work.... for?????

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[chapman]

There will at least two train wrecks in the conference.  MU won't be one of them.  That gets us at least 8th just by fielding a team.

[ecompt]

I predict MU 3-7

Or 3-5, which is about where they would finish in either division of Big Ten football.

[hoyasincebirth]

From the outside Marquette looks like a team that's destined to be playing the first day of the BET.

I read this board enough to know how the majority feel about Buzz's rotation last year and it being the cause for Marquette's struggles.

But the team still lost a lot especially up front which was where the majority of Marquette's strength was last year. And while many people are high on Wojo and he's gotten off to a good start recruiting he's still a first time head coach. Look at how Butler struggled last year with a first time head coach.

It's not unreasonable for people to objectively look at Marquette and expect them to struggle with their lack of size and inexperience both on the bench and on the court ( only 4 upper classmen), and a short bench (10 eligible scholarship players(9 until end of 1st semester)).

Obviously it would be really weird for fans of the program to think this way, but it's not unreasonable for a magazine to look at last year and what you lost and expect things to get worse before they get better. Again not trying to convince anyone to think down on the teams prospects, you're fans you're going to be optimistic, but this prediction shouldn't just be dismissed as stupid or impossible.

[BM1090]

Ninth is simply too low, unbiased or not.  Too much talent on this team to finish ninth.  One could only place Marquette ninth if you figured Wojo can't coach at all.

I wonder if you made a prop bet in Vegas that Marquette would finish 9th or 10th what kind of odds you would get.  Has Marquette since joining the MCC in the early 90's ever finished second to last (or worse) in any conference we were affiliated with?

We were awful last year.....and still finished 6th. Can't see us dropping any lower than that.

[GGGG]

We were awful last year.....and still finished 6th. Can't see us dropping any lower than that.

What makes you so certain we will be better this year?  The talent we will have doesn't have much experience and vice versa.  Talent may cause us to win a game or two we aren't supposed to...but the lack of experience (especially in the front court) may cause us to lose a handful.

[PistolPete]

What makes you so certain we will be better this year?  The talent we will have doesn't have much experience and vice versa.  Talent may cause us to win a game or two we aren't supposed to...but the lack of experience (especially in the front court) may cause us to lose a handful.

Well, unlike last year, you'd presume Coach will have his five best players on the court.

[willie warrior]

What makes you so certain we will be better this year?  The talent we will have doesn't have much experience and vice versa.  Talent may cause us to win a game or two we aren't supposed to...but the lack of experience (especially in the front court) may cause us to lose a handful.

Here's what makes one more certain that we will be better:

• We had a doofus for a coach last year. We now have an adult as coach.
  We were 17-15 last year. We sucked. can't be worse.
  We have a better PG which will be a big upgrade
  Du. Wilson, and JJJ were collared last year by the doofus. They will break out this year.
  
  We should likely end up about 18-14 or 19-13--an improvement over the doofus' abombination.]
  

[slack00]

On paper, Butler and Creighton should both be better than us. Creighton only lost 65% of their offense, we lost 71%. And Creighton was much better than us. Butler gets their leading scorer back from injury and only loses 45% of their offense.

Now I agree that we are better than both of these teams, but if we are to be unbiased, you have to look at the numbers. And the numbers say we are 9th best.

If you define "offense" as points scored, then yes.  While I don't have numbers to back it up (and I'm not entirely sure it's possible), I would argue that Creighton lost more of their offense by having lottery pick Doug McDermott and 3 undrafted players leave than 5 undrafted players.  

How much better did McDermott make the underclassmen that team that count as the 35% returning to inflate that number?  I'm not sure you could argue that Burton's, Johnson's, Dawson's, or Taylor's stats were enhanced by having those other players on the team.

[Lennys Tap]

Well, unlike last year, you'd presume Coach will have his five best players on the court.

Well, it is Wojo's first year, so there will be a bit of a honeymoon. For as long as that lasts or as long as he outperforms collective expectations most here won't try to coach the team. At some point, though, expect a "choking dogs" or a "coach is insane" moment from one of our experts. It's embedded deep in Scoop's DNA.