Author Topic: NBA Draft Analysis + Mock Drafts (Read 15578 times)

GGGG · « **Reply #50 on:** May 21, 2014, 12:35:54 PM »

Quote from: damuts222 on May 21, 2014, 12:30:00 PM

Do you really think that Kevin Love is worth the first overall pick in a loaded draft?

If Love is willing to sign an extension as part of the deal? Yeah I think so. It's at least worth the discussion.

Spotcheck Billy · « **Reply #51 on:** May 21, 2014, 12:37:24 PM »

Quote from: damuts222 on May 21, 2014, 12:30:00 PM

Do you really think that Kevin Love is worth the first overall pick in a loaded draft?

not all trades are one for one

GGGG · « **Reply #52 on:** May 21, 2014, 12:38:40 PM »

Quote from: wadesworld on May 21, 2014, 12:35:23 PM

Nothing intriguing about LeBron going back to Cleveland then?

What is intriguing about that? They had the best chance to win the lottery...and they did.

I mean, why would the NBA have an interest in him going there versus Chicago or Miami or Los Angeles?

damuts222 · « **Reply #53 on:** May 21, 2014, 12:48:03 PM »

Quote

Yes.

I personally wouldn't do it one for one. But it is Cleveland, they may do just about anything.

wadesworld · « **Reply #54 on:** May 21, 2014, 12:49:48 PM »

Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 21, 2014, 12:38:40 PM

What is intriguing about that? They had the best chance to win the lottery...and they did.

I mean, why would the NBA have an interest in him going there versus Chicago or Miami or Los Angeles?

I mean this year. The year that the Bucks had the best chance to win the lottery. The year that they had a 1.5% chance of winning the lottery and they did. The year that gave them their 3rd #1 pick in the last 4 years after they lost LeBron and complained about it. LeBron can now have the pieces around him in Cleveland that he never had before. The biggest name in all of sports can go home, the place that he walked away from and became a hated man, and bring his "hometown" (it's not) the championship it has lacked for so long.

GGGG · « **Reply #55 on:** May 21, 2014, 12:52:01 PM »

Quote from: wadesworld on May 21, 2014, 12:49:48 PM

I mean this year. The year that the Bucks had the best chance to win the lottery. The year that they had a 1.5% chance of winning the lottery and they did. The year that gave them their 3rd #1 pick in the last 4 years after they lost LeBron and complained about it. LeBron can now have the pieces around him in Cleveland that he never had before. The biggest name in all of sports can go home, the place that he walked away from and became a hated man, and bring his "hometown" (it's not) the championship it has lacked for so long.

See this is an example of how people can make a conspiracy out of anything. This reasoning makes absolutely no sense to me.

reinko · « **Reply #56 on:** May 21, 2014, 12:56:13 PM »

Also, if it was rigged, why would the NBA give Dan Gilbert, a man who's hands are dirty from the sub-prime debacle this much attention and this "gift" of the #1 pick.

(Cue someone derailing this thread about how only home owners and certain Presidential administrations played a role in the sub prime mess. Clearly many parties were fault, not just banks, and not just people.)

4everwarriors · « **Reply #57 on:** May 21, 2014, 12:56:27 PM »

Who's ever had a woody for Cleveland?

Spotcheck Billy · « **Reply #58 on:** May 21, 2014, 04:24:48 PM »

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 21, 2014, 12:56:27 PM

Who's ever had a woody for Cleveland?

Joe Walsh and Drew Carry?

brandx · « **Reply #59 on:** May 21, 2014, 04:48:18 PM »

Quote from: damuts222 on May 21, 2014, 12:30:00 PM

Do you really think that Kevin Love is worth the first overall pick in a loaded draft?

Love is a west coast guy - can't see him going to Cleveland.

Sunbelt15 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 22, 2014, 06:10:11 AM »

Quote from: reinko on May 21, 2014, 09:03:53 AM

Ok, let's compare a 19 year old college freshman to Kobe Bryant.

If you remember Kobe's attitude when he came in the league, you'd know what I'm talking about. The guy was oozing confidence. Unfortunately, his rookie coach didn't agree. That's why he was benched after the 360 dunk. Wiggins has the same skill set without the confidence.

brandx · « **Reply #61 on:** May 27, 2014, 11:44:06 PM »

Quote from: Sunbelt15 on May 22, 2014, 06:10:11 AM

If you remember Kobe's attitude when he came in the league, you'd know what I'm talking about. The guy was oozing confidence. Unfortunately, his rookie coach didn't agree. That's why he was benched after the 360 dunk. Wiggins has the same skill set without the confidence.

Very few guys come in with the confidence that Kobe and Jordan had. But when the playoffs were on the line, who did the Lakers call the final play for? It was Kobe - even though he was only 18.

Lebron certainly didn't have that swagger and it cost him a championship or two.

Hopefully it is something Wiggins can learn as Lebron did. As long as Embiid's back checks out OK - it's gonna be Wiggins for the Bucks. Not nearly as ready as Jabari, but a lot more upside.

reinko · « **Reply #62 on:** June 25, 2014, 01:03:21 PM »

Bummpy bump bump.

As stated in another thread.

Exum. Exum. Exum. Exum.

Go for the home run, you are the Bucks. Go to war with Giannis (who is apparently almost 6'11 now!), and still what 19 years old, Exum, who is 18, Henson, trade Sanders for .50 on the dollar, get some shooters, become the Golden State Warriors of the East.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #63 on:** June 25, 2014, 09:28:25 PM »

Quote from: brandx on May 21, 2014, 04:48:18 PM

Love is a west coast guy - can't see him going to Cleveland.

Love in Cleveland doesn't work, but not because "he's a west coast guy"

wadesworld · « **Reply #64 on:** June 25, 2014, 09:36:19 PM »

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on May 21, 2014, 12:52:01 PM

See this is an example of how people can make a conspiracy out of anything. This reasoning makes absolutely no sense to me.

I guess we will soon know if I was right.

MU82 · « **Reply #65 on:** June 25, 2014, 09:59:43 PM »

I guarantee Vander will be drafted!

brandx · « **Reply #66 on:** June 25, 2014, 11:01:30 PM »

Quote from: MU82 on June 25, 2014, 09:59:43 PM

I guarantee Vander will be drafted!

I think you meant "I guarantee Jamil will be drafted".

MU82 · « **Reply #67 on:** June 26, 2014, 07:00:13 AM »

Quote from: brandx on June 25, 2014, 11:01:30 PM

I think you meant "I guarantee Jamil will be drafted".

Nah, I was wistfully recalling Scoop's many discussions of a year ago ... and the total certainty of the Vander-will-be-drafted crowd.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #68 on:** June 29, 2014, 03:53:51 PM »

Quote from: MU82 on June 26, 2014, 07:00:13 AM

Nah, I was wistfully recalling Scoop's many discussions of a year ago ... and the total certainty of the Vander-will-be-drafted crowd.

The certainty is that he would be drafted this year, not last year. Only the dopes bought into last year, and I include the biggest dopes of all in that....his advisers.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #69 on:** June 29, 2014, 04:34:21 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on June 29, 2014, 03:53:51 PM

The certainty is that he would be drafted this year, not last year. Only the dopes bought into last year, and I include the biggest dopes of all in that....his advisers.

Take a look at Juniors declaring for the draft this year... it's interesting.

MU82 · « **Reply #70 on:** June 30, 2014, 09:21:38 AM »

Quote from: Jay Bee on June 29, 2014, 04:34:21 PM

Take a look at Juniors declaring for the draft this year... it's interesting.

Indeed, a year from now, there will be UNC fans looking at the 2015 draft, shaking their heads and lamenting, "If only James Michael McAdoo had stayed for his senior season, he CERTAINLY would have been drafted this year."

Of course, they won't be able to offer facts to support their certainty ... just as some MU fans can't offer facts to support their certainty that Vander would have been drafted ahead of the likes of Christon, McRae and Thames this year.