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Author Topic: McBuckets to Chicago  (Read 8639 times)

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McBuckets to Chicago
« on: June 26, 2014, 08:18:04 PM »
Fellow Bulls fans, what do you think?
I don't mind the pick. He is ready to contribute and they are in win now mode.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2014, 08:30:06 PM »
Desperate for a shooter. He can shoot it. I like the pick.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2014, 08:40:35 PM »
If they move him from PF to SF I'll be ok with it.  Not happy not mad but if they try to insert him at PF I think it'll be a huge disaster and I'll feel it was a waste. 
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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2014, 08:46:05 PM »
Lebron loves the pick....

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2014, 09:08:25 PM »
Lebron loves the pick....

Butler will be the one guarding Lebron.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2014, 10:12:48 PM »
Really, really dislike.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2014, 10:22:29 PM »
Really, really dislike.

That was my first response.  But what's done is done so I'm trying to figure out a way it could work
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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2014, 10:43:59 PM »
Really, really dislike.

Why? Is he not "athletic" enough? I can understand not loving the pick but that much negativity doesn't make any sense to me.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2014, 10:53:21 PM »
Why? Is he not "athletic" enough? I can understand not loving the pick but that much negativity doesn't make any sense to me.

2 first round picks for a guy that is projected to be Wally Sczerbiak? That's a terrible move. They could've gotten two solid role players at 16 and 19.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2014, 10:56:22 PM »
Dougie is Mike Dunleavy, circa 2002.

Creighton had to run screens for him.

Will the Bulls do so? Probably if Dougie can run the pick n roll...
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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2014, 11:10:41 PM »
2 first round picks for a guy that is projected to be Wally Sczerbiak? That's a terrible move. They could've gotten two solid role players at 16 and 19.

They don't need role players. They needed a shooter badly and got arguably the best one in the draft. Plus they wanted to clear cap space and this also makes Dunleavy expendable. It has to be looked at in the context of what they want to do the rest of the offseason. It might not work but the plan is clear.

Edit: You can argue a shooter is a role player but most consider McDermott a scorer.
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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2014, 11:25:50 PM »
Butler will be the one guarding Lebron.

LeBron going to Chicago now because of the pick...he loves so much

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2014, 05:32:03 AM »
2 first round picks for a guy that is projected to be Wally Sczerbiak? That's a terrible move. They could've gotten two solid role players at 16 and 19.

The Bulls were never taking two picks this draft.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2014, 10:36:50 AM »
Why? Is he not "athletic" enough? I can understand not loving the pick but that much negativity doesn't make any sense to me.

No, because if you asked me who my least favorite player in all of NCAA basketball last year I would have answered McDermott without hesitation.

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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2014, 11:19:36 AM »
2 first round picks for a guy that is projected to be Wally Sczerbiak? That's a terrible move. They could've gotten two solid role players at 16 and 19.

If you get a guy who is going to average almost 15 a game (as Wally did), it is a very good trade. Not to mention that his strength coincides with the Bulls biggest weakness - someone to put the ball in the basket. Not to mention that he & Jabari may be as NBA ready for day 1 as anyone drafted yesterday.

Wally was a #6 overall pick. Any team would trade two mid-round picks for a #6 pick.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2014, 11:41:38 AM »
I think it's a great pick.  Bulls were shooting challenged and as a previous poster said they weren't putting two rookies in uniform.  So they used their available ammo and moved up as best as they could for a player that will have an impact.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2014, 12:17:10 PM »
Not to mention that if you look at the last 20 years, the #9 pick has a better chance to be an outstanding player than the #2 pick or the #3 pick or the #2 AND #3 picks combined.



Edit: Don't know what I was thinking - as he was #11 not #9
« Last Edit: June 27, 2014, 04:24:32 PM by brandx »

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2014, 03:24:11 PM »
The Bulls were never taking two picks this draft.


Correct, this was about clearing cap space to sign a big name free agent (Melo? LeBron?).  So, we cannot "grade" the Bulls draft until we see who they get in free agency as that was part of their calculus last night.

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2014, 02:20:49 PM »

Correct, this was about clearing cap space to sign a big name free agent (Melo? LeBron?).  So, we cannot "grade" the Bulls draft until we see who they get in free agency as that was part of their calculus last night.


Which is why in recent NBA history, grading draft picks the next day is meaningless.

One must wait at least 3-5 years.
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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2014, 08:44:57 PM »
2 first round picks for a guy that is projected to be Wally Sczerbiak? That's a terrible move. They could've gotten two solid role players at 16 and 19.
Why does everybody dismiss Sczerbiak as some colossal bust? He was a very solid player...I believe he even made an All Star team. The Bulls would be ecstatic with that. We all love Wes Matthews, but he's never made an all star team

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2014, 10:21:06 PM »
Why does everybody dismiss Sczerbiak as some colossal bust? He was a very solid player...I believe he even made an All Star team. The Bulls would be ecstatic with that. We all love Wes Matthews, but he's never made an all star team

When Wes is unleashed in the NBA, he will make the All Star team


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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2014, 10:21:19 PM »
McDermott is a much more skilled basketball player than Sczerbiak. Every movement McDermott makes on offense has purpose. Watch his cuts, screens, angles he takes off the ball. That part of his game impesses me more than his shooting, he doesn't waste motion, almost clinical in his movement.

Can he guard? Is he athletic enough to play 20 plus mins a night in the NBA? We'll see. He's bigger than most people realize, intelligent rebounder.

Bulls prefer 4 year kids who are well coached. Thibs kind of player eventually.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2014, 10:54:15 PM »
No, because if you asked me who my least favorite player in all of NCAA basketball last year I would have answered McDermott without hesitation.

Why? Because he scored too much and shot the ball too well?

I don't think McDermott is going to be an NBA star, but I would think he could be at least as effective at his role as an older Ray Allen is or as Kyle Korver and Mike Miller have been.
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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2014, 05:07:01 AM »
McDermott is a much more skilled basketball player than Sczerbiak.
I am a Bulls fan and love that they got McDemott, but I disagree with this. Wally Sczerbiak was much more mobile than McDermott and every bit the shooter. McDermott is better in the post, but to suggest anybody is much more skilled than Sczerbiak is a bit of a stretch. Again, Sczerbiak was an all star...most guys in the NBA would sell their first born to make an all star team. He and Garnett had the timberwolves on the verge of the NBA Finals.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2014, 07:02:38 AM »
If I was to compare McDermott to anyone, I would say Chuck Person.  And that's worth a #6 pick.