Marquette Mt. Rushmore

[BrewCity83]

Al McGuire
Chris Farley
Doc Rivers
Dwayne Wade

These are for the most well known, nationally, with MU connections.  Four great entertainers.

[Marqevans]

Maurice Lucas, Butch Lee, Dwayne Wade, Jim Chones

Ditto!

[leever]

Dean the Dream
George Thompson
"Dawayne" Wade
Jimmy Chones

The 1st three are gimmes, the 4th is a toss up among many

[CTWarrior]

I don't understand how George Thompson is not an automatic.  He should be as much as Wade.  All-time leading scorer for three decades (without a three point shot and three years on varsity), McGuire's first superstar player, and the guy that was the star when MU took off nationally under McGuire and stayed there until 1977.  Respect what Ellis, Lucas, and others did at MU, but when you're talking MU greats and the legacy they left the school with, it starts with Wade and Thompson, period.

Good points, but the guy I say you can't keep off is Butch Lee.  1977 Final Four Most Ouststanding Player and 1978 Associated Press National Player of the Year.  He's the only MU player that has accomplished either of those honors, which are the two best individual honors a college kid can get, I would think.  If the Mt. Rushmore honor is for what was accomplished at MU, don't know how anybody beats that.

[keefe]

Yes sir!!!

Except I'd swap Pedro Arrupe or Pope Frank for Bellarmine but you are close  

Interesting you mention Fr Arrupe as I thought of him as well. Without getting into the politics of Liberation Theology I admire greatly Arrupe's willingness to take such a bold stand at a time when human dignity and the needs of the poor were being trampled in the name of great power Realpolitik.

One of my favorite professors at Marquette was Fr Peter Marchetti. Marchetti was one of the Jesuits the Vatican chastised by name for involvement in secular politics. Marchetti has devoted his life to land reform in Central America for the specific purpose of empowering campesinos in their struggle for voice and economic stability. I have often marveled at the Church's interpretation of unacceptable political activity.

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Farley
Lesko
Kasper
McCarthy

[GooooMarquette]

Good points, but the guy I say you can't keep off is Butch Lee.  1977 Final Four Most Ouststanding Player and 1978 Associated Press National Player of the Year.  He's the only MU player that has accomplished either of those honors, which are the two best individual honors a college kid can get, I would think.  If the Mt. Rushmore honor is for what was accomplished at MU, don't know how anybody beats that.

Agree.  If MU's Mt. Rushmore had room for only one, it would be Butch.

[77ncaachamps]

How Kojis is NOT mentioned escapes me.

He still is the top rebounder at MU...at 6'3"!


"Don Kojis led the Marquette basketball team in scoring as a junior (20.9 ppg) and senior (21.4 ppg) and was a three-time team rebounding leader including an average of 17.1 caroms per game in 1960-61. At the conclusion of his college career, he was the school's all-time scoring leader with 1,504 points and still ranks as the program's top career board man with 1,222 rebounds. He was named to the 1959 NCAA Tournament All-Mideast Team and helped Marquette finish with a 23-6 record. At the time, his 578 points and 232 field goals in 1960-61 were school records, and his 462 rebounds still holds up as the top seasonal mark in school lore. Named to the Catholic All-America Team by Catholic Digest in 1961, he still holds the top two Marquette seasonal efforts in rebound average (17.1 rpg in '60-61 and 15.4 rpg in '59-60). In December of 1961, his jersey number 44 was retired by the school. Inducted into Marquette's Hall of Fame in 1972. Many think the homegrown Kojis the best all-round player at Marquette until Dwyane Wade."


This doesn't even factor in his NBA career: http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/colleges.cgi?college=marquette

[brandx]

How Kojis is NOT mentioned escapes me.

He still is the top rebounder at MU...at 6'3"!


"Don Kojis led the Marquette basketball team in scoring as a junior (20.9 ppg) and senior (21.4 ppg) and was a three-time team rebounding leader including an average of 17.1 caroms per game in 1960-61. At the conclusion of his college career, he was the school's all-time scoring leader with 1,504 points and still ranks as the program's top career board man with 1,222 rebounds. He was named to the 1959 NCAA Tournament All-Mideast Team and helped Marquette finish with a 23-6 record. At the time, his 578 points and 232 field goals in 1960-61 were school records, and his 462 rebounds still holds up as the top seasonal mark in school lore. Named to the Catholic All-America Team by Catholic Digest in 1961, he still holds the top two Marquette seasonal efforts in rebound average (17.1 rpg in '60-61 and 15.4 rpg in '59-60). In December of 1961, his jersey number 44 was retired by the school. Inducted into Marquette's Hall of Fame in 1972. Many think the homegrown Kojis the best all-round player at Marquette until Dwyane Wade."


This doesn't even factor in his NBA career: http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/colleges.cgi?college=marquette

I think he was more in the 6'5" - 6'6" range.

[4everwarriors]

Yo, check out my post.

[Anti-Dentite]

Al, Dwyane Wade, Jim Chones and George Thompson.

[MU82]

How Kojis is NOT mentioned escapes me.

He still is the top rebounder at MU...at 6'3"!


"Don Kojis led the Marquette basketball team in scoring as a junior (20.9 ppg) and senior (21.4 ppg) and was a three-time team rebounding leader including an average of 17.1 caroms per game in 1960-61. At the conclusion of his college career, he was the school's all-time scoring leader with 1,504 points and still ranks as the program's top career board man with 1,222 rebounds. He was named to the 1959 NCAA Tournament All-Mideast Team and helped Marquette finish with a 23-6 record. At the time, his 578 points and 232 field goals in 1960-61 were school records, and his 462 rebounds still holds up as the top seasonal mark in school lore. Named to the Catholic All-America Team by Catholic Digest in 1961, he still holds the top two Marquette seasonal efforts in rebound average (17.1 rpg in '60-61 and 15.4 rpg in '59-60). In December of 1961, his jersey number 44 was retired by the school. Inducted into Marquette's Hall of Fame in 1972. Many think the homegrown Kojis the best all-round player at Marquette until Dwyane Wade."


This doesn't even factor in his NBA career: http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/colleges.cgi?college=marquette

Because even a fairly old guy like me never saw him play.

It's not like the real Mt. Rushmore; I didn't need to see Lincoln preside to know he belongs. This is a basketball Mt. Rushmore, and I needed to see the players.

It's kind of like a different thread in which a fairly young guy said Julius Erving was nowhere near as good as Kevin Durant. It was obvious that the guy had never seen Julius play, so it's impossible to change his mind.

[HutchwasClutch]

Good points, but the guy I say you can't keep off is Butch Lee.  1977 Final Four Most Ouststanding Player and 1978 Associated Press National Player of the Year.  He's the only MU player that has accomplished either of those honors, which are the two best individual honors a college kid can get, I would think.  If the Mt. Rushmore honor is for what was accomplished at MU, don't know how anybody beats that.

Butch was a great one, no doubt.  I included him in my Mt. Rushmore of MU greats.  I'd still take Thompson and Wade over him, and comparing their MU  stats vs. Butch's, confirms they were better.   Thompson and Wade are in another stratosphere of MU greatness.   Thompson didn't have the NCAA success that Butch did, but remember, his senior year was the year Purdue beat them in the Elite Eight at the buzzer.   The media given honors as proof he was the greatest I don't think proves anything.  His '78 POY, his PPG were down.  

[Avenue Commons]

D Wade, Mo Lucas, Butch Lee, George Thompson

[ZiggysFryBoy]

ZFB, Keefe, 4never, PRN

[Goose]

Very surprised for the lack of Bo love here. He was a special college player and IMO his MU body of work surpasses Luke by a fairly wide margin and big Luke fan here. From day one he made an impact and his four year record as a player was off the charts.

IMO Wade is the only one difficult to argue against. Never saw Kojos but heard from guys who know that he was special player.

[brandx]

Very surprised for the lack of Bo love here. He was a special college player and IMO his MU body of work surpasses Luke by a fairly wide margin and big Luke fan here. From day one he made an impact and his four year record as a player was off the charts.

IMO Wade is the only one difficult to argue against. Never saw Kojos but heard from guys who know that he was special player.

I think Luke was a much better pro than college player - even tho' he was very good at MU.

I would go with Dwayne and Chones as the top 2. After that, it is hard to choose between Thompson, Bo, Butch and Dean the Dream for the last 2 spots.

[Goose]

Brandx

First two are right on. Gets tough on the last two.

[wadesworld]

ZFB, Keefe, 4never, PRN

Putting yourself in there.  Classic.

[keefe]

Putting yourself in there.  Classic.

There could be no Scoop Rushmore without The Fry Boy's trenchant take of the day's burning issues. To suggest otherwise cheapens the very notion of consecration.

[Sharpie]

Trend Blackledge X 4

[keefe]

ZFB, Keefe, 4never, PRN

[Nukem2]

Very surprised for the lack of Bo love here. He was a special college player and IMO his MU body of work surpasses Luke by a fairly wide margin and big Luke fan here. From day one he made an impact and his four year record as a player was off the charts.

IMO Wade is the only one difficult to argue against. Never saw Kojos but heard from guys who know that he was special player.

Luke's impact was lessened by the freshman ineligible rule and foregoing his senior season for the pros.  Had he played 4 years, his record would have been off the charts.  Glad we had both Luke and Bo.

[4everwarriors]

Absolutely spot on. Didn't know you saved all those old yearbooks, Crash.

[wadesworld]

You should really consider quitting smoking.