Cody Schwartz

[Galway Eagle]

That team may have been the smallest MU team ever.  I remember looking on KenPOM and sorting the teams out by height.  MU was the smallest team out of all the power conferences, by far, at the time.  No low post presence, really, nor a guy who could create his own shot off the dribble. 

DJO could.  Butler and Hayward really couldn't I'll give you that.  Outside of those three it's not even worth talking about that team but the point is Acker, Cubi, DJO, Butler, Hayward everybody went cold on threes and choked.  What did we learn? Three point shooting is great but didn't help in the end. 

[MUSF]

I think we hit three three point shots in last 1:30 to beat Davidison. Not a good three point shooting team, but we hit the shots. O-22 against Uconn when we hit three to send game in overtime. Even bad three point shooting teams need to hit threes.

There's a difference between being able to hit threes and utilizing the three point shot as a key component of your offense. The three was never really a deliberate part of Buzz's offensive system. He took the shoot it if it's open approach over setting up three point opportunities. That philosophy shifted a little bit in the later half of this season with Jake.

For the most part, Buzz's system served MU well during his tenure, but I am excited to see a new system that uses the three, or the threat of the three more consistently.

[MU82]

Over the course of a season, it would benefit Marquette if the team didn't begin each game trailing by 18-21 points from the 3-point line. That was the case all too often last season. We knew we had zero chance to compete from behind the arc against a majority of opponents.

There is a happy medium between being the kind of rely-on-3 team Creighton was last season and the kind of can't-make-a-3 team Marquette was.

Finally, it would be nice if the guy who has the ball in his hands most of the game could hit a 3 when the defense dares them to shoot.

[Groin_pull]

Google is my best friend

Was hoping someone could offer some insight, rather than the standard recruit profile info found when you google.

But thanks for the suggestion.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Just tuned in and didn't read anything on page 2 about the subject Cody Schwartz!

[wadesworld]

Over the course of a season, it would benefit Marquette if the team didn't begin each game trailing by 18-21 points from the 3-point line. That was the case all too often last season. We knew we had zero chance to compete from behind the arc against a majority of opponents.

There is a happy medium between being the kind of rely-on-3 team Creighton was last season and the kind of can't-make-a-3 team Marquette was.

Finally, it would be nice if the guy who has the ball in his hands most of the game could hit a 3 when the defense dares them to shoot.

Nitpicking here but this is one of my biggest pet peeves.  You should not count every extra 3 pointer made as 3 extra points for a team, because they do not get an extra possession by making a 3 pointer.  So my point is a team gets an "extra" 1 point out of making a 3 pointer, not an extra 3 points.  So you'd need to make 18-21 more 3 pointers than another team to have an extra 18-21 points because of 3 point field goals made.  You get 1 extra point per 3 point field goal made when comparing field goals, not 3 extra points.

If I'm making sense at all...

[MU82]

Nitpicking here but this is one of my biggest pet peeves.  You should not count every extra 3 pointer made as 3 extra points for a team, because they do not get an extra possession by making a 3 pointer.  So my point is a team gets an "extra" 1 point out of making a 3 pointer, not an extra 3 points.  So you'd need to make 18-21 more 3 pointers than another team to have an extra 18-21 points because of 3 point field goals made.  You get 1 extra point per 3 point field goal made when comparing field goals, not 3 extra points.

If I'm making sense at all...

I'd hear what you were saying if I knew we were gonna make the 2-pointer!

Seriously, I'm not necessarily talking about a point differential that's reflected in the final score -- being behind 18 points from the 3-point line doesn't have to translate to losing by 18. I'm talking more about an easy way to measure the difference between teams' likelihood of making 3s in a game.

So when I say we're behind Georgetown 18-0 from the 3-point line before the game even starts, I'm looking at six 3s they're going to get that we aren't. And even if we get a 2 on every one of those trips downcourt, we're still "losing" that metric by 6 points -- which is too many.

Bottom line: I'd like us to have 2 or 3 guys on the court at all times who are serious threats.

[wadesworld]

I'd hear what you were saying if I knew we were gonna make the 2-pointer!

Seriously, I'm not necessarily talking about a point differential that's reflected in the final score -- being behind 18 points from the 3-point line doesn't have to translate to losing by 18. I'm talking more about an easy way to measure the difference between teams' likelihood of making 3s in a game.

So when I say we're behind Georgetown 18-0 from the 3-point line before the game even starts, I'm looking at six 3s they're going to get that we aren't. And even if we get a 2 on every one of those trips downcourt, we're still "losing" that metric by 6 points -- which is too many.

Bottom line: I'd like us to have 2 or 3 guys on the court at all times who are serious threats.

I get what you're saying and I agree that we at least need a threat or 2 to hit a 3 pointer on the court.  I'm just saying that just because a team makes 5 more 3 pointers than another team does not mean that they are +15 points as a result of that.  Analysts say things like that all the time, but different teams use different methods to put the ball in the basket.

[MU82]

I get what you're saying and I agree that we at least need a threat or 2 to hit a 3 pointer on the court.  I'm just saying that just because a team makes 5 more 3 pointers than another team does not mean that they are +15 points as a result of that.  Analysts say things like that all the time, but different teams use different methods to put the ball in the basket.

We are in agreement.

Obviously intellectually superior guys, you and I!

[BCHoopster]

Creighton lived and died by the three, you need a happy medium, much like the Badgers.  Last year you had Jake in a few games, not consistent and Jamil totally in consistent.  Most of the Badgers can make the three and that opens up driving lanes.  Last year most teams packed it in against MU, hard to always win with two's now.  In a minute, the other team can hit 3 threes
for 9 points. MU had to make 5 2's to be up one.  Very hard.

[GOO]

I like the idea of combining basketball players with skills along with the athletic freaks.  Need a mixture of both, in my opinion.  Obviously, you want both in a package, but the last few years we have lacked guys with basketball skills and basketball feel/IQ too often.

Need a little of both type of players on a team to take advantage of what is lacking in the other team.  Give me some guys that can drive it and some that can shoot it. 

Cody, if he can play PF, could develop into a nice outside inside threat.

BTW: I sure do miss the days of having the deadly shooters, who if given an inch and a second, will make you pay (e.g. Diener), Acker, Hutch, Wardle, etc. Having one of those guys on the court sure does open things up.

[MUSF]

I like the idea of combining basketball players with skills along with the athletic freaks.  Need a mixture of both, in my opinion.  Obviously, you want both in a package, but the last few years we have lacked guys with basketball skills and basketball feel/IQ too often.

Need a little of both type of players on a team to take advantage of what is lacking in the other team.  Give me some guys that can drive it and some that can shoot it. 

Cody, if he can play PF, could develop into a nice outside inside threat.

BTW: I sure do miss the days of having the deadly shooters, who if given an inch and a second, will make you pay (e.g. Diener), Acker, Hutch, Wardle, etc. Having one of those guys on the court sure does open things up.

I agree. A lot of people in basketball are starting to change how they view players and positions. Getting the right combination of skill sets on the court at the right time is more nuanced than classifying players by conventional positions 1-5.

See the link below for some fascinating analysis on the real bball positions. I think the research and theories discussed in the article debunk both sides of the "athletic switchables" vs. "traditional" debates that have occurred here in the past.

BTW: I think this article may have been linked on scoop before. I would give credit to the poster that found it originally, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

http://www.wired.com/2013/03/basketballs-hidden-positions/

[Dawson Rental]

Was hoping someone could offer some insight, rather than the standard recruit profile info found when you google.

But thanks for the suggestion.

It wasn't actually a suggestion, he was just trying to explain to you why he spends all his time on MuScoop.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Here's Sandy going at him

He's using the Schwartz there.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

He's using the Schwartz there.

+1

[Bocephys]

He's using the Schwartz there.

[MUSF]

Here's Sandy going at him

That's a foul. I don't want someone that can't play defense without fouling.

Where's WadeATKBurton? I need to ask him if Wojo has someone better lined up.

[lohaus]

I watched this guy play probably 6 times in the last year and a half.  He is an excellent shooter.  When he is on he splashes them in.  I don't see this guy playing a power forward as I can barely remember him touching the paint on offense.  This isn't a dude that is going to hit the post an drop step dunk or rebound and dunk on anyone.  Maybe that is the sign of the times for power forward though.  Sometimes he disappears in big games and then he will start hitting.  When you read the paper the next day he will have 20 in the second half.

I believe he may have led the conference in rebounding.  He was 6'8"going against mostly 6'4"ish stiffs.  As with any player, he needs to work on his handle as in their game at state Wisco just pressured the crap out of him.   He didn't seem to have the handles to blow by that pressure.

If I could compare him to any player at Marquette then it would have to be a Steve Novakish type of player.

[Dawson Rental]

I watched this guy play probably 6 times in the last year and a half.  He is an excellent shooter.  When he is on he splashes them in.  I don't see this guy playing a power forward as I can barely remember him touching the paint on offense.  This isn't a dude that is going to hit the post an drop step dunk or rebound and dunk on anyone.  Maybe that is the sign of the times for power forward though.  Sometimes he disappears in big games and then he will start hitting.  When you read the paper the next day he will have 20 in the second half.

I believe he may have led the conference in rebounding.  He was 6'8"going against mostly 6'4"ish stiffs.  As with any player, he needs to work on his handle as in their game at state Wisco just pressured the crap out of him.   He didn't seem to have the handles to blow by that pressure.

If I could compare him to any player at Marquette then it would have to be a Steve Novakish type of player.

Thanks for the first hand report.  IIRC, Novak brought the ball up the court for his HS team, so while he obviously had a much better handle than what you've seen from Schwartz, Novak was probably just as unfamiliar with the paint.

I think that it says a lot about styles of play when Creighton and Wisconsin are his biggest interests right now.  At either place, I'd think that he end up taking two years or so to develop.  I don't see a McDermott or a Kaminsky, but with some work, maybe he could be a Wragge.

[WadeATKBurton]

That's a foul. I don't want someone that can't play defense without fouling.

Where's WadeATKBurton? I need to ask him if Wojo has someone better lined up.

Hes a three point threat that we desparately NEED.  He could be the 5th player off my bench

[🏀]

Hes a three point threat that we desparately NEED.  He could be the 5th player off my bench

I know who you are now!

Why the name change?

[Dawson Rental]

Hes a three point threat that we desparately NEED.  He could be the 5th player off my bench

That's a very deep rotation you have there.

[Skatastrophy]

I know who you are now!

Why the name change?

Rat him out!

Snitches get cupcakes and hugs!

[WadeATKBurton]

I know who you are now!

Why the name change?

Still ATK baby!! Don't get it twisted im always reppin

[MU82]

I don't see a ... Kaminsky, but with some work, maybe he could be a Wragge.

Well, I'm not sure how much Wisconsin saw "a Kaminsky" in Kaminsky.

He averaged 7.7 mpg as a freshman and 10.3 mpg as a sophomore. So he wasn't impressing the hell out of Bo his first two years on campus.