Please tell me UW won't be even better next year

[mechaghidorah]

MU desperately needs that "impact hire" more than ever now.

[mattyv1908]

They're two completely unrelated issues.

The Badgers will be a good team next year regardless of what happens with Marquette.  They're not contigent on each other at all.

[Tugg Speedman]

MU was an E8 team last year and was supposed to be better this year.  How did that work out?

[MUUWUWM]

Should start out next year ranked #1....#2 at worst.

[mattyv1908]

MU was an E8 team last year and was supposed to be better this year.  How did that work out?

Why don't you post another new topic to find out?

[BenCat12]

They're two completely unrelated issues.

The Badgers will be a good team next year regardless of what happens with Marquette.  They're not contigent on each other at all.

recruiting wise it means a ton.  
I think its pretty safe to say after the last 5 months that if Diamond stays in the state it will be to play for the Badgers.  A lack of a coaching change hangover is extremely important to the future of the program.  A bad hire coupled with UW success could lead to a major lack of in-state talent coming to MU for years to come.

[GB Warrior]

recruiting wise it means a ton.  
I think its pretty safe to say after the last 5 months that if Diamond stays in the state it will be to play for the Badgers.  A lack of a coaching change hangover is extremely important to the future of the program.  A bad hire coupled with UW success could lead to a major lack of in-state talent coming to MU for years to come.

Yep. Good thing we're hitting a home run with our coaching search.

[mattyv1908]

recruiting wise it means a ton.  
I think its pretty safe to say after the last 5 months that if Diamond stays in the state it will be to play for the Badgers.  A lack of a coaching change hangover is extremely important to the future of the program.  A bad hire coupled with UW success could lead to a major lack of in-state talent coming to MU for years to come.

They play two completely different styles and recruit completely different players for the most part.

It hasn't stopped either program from being successful the last several seasons.  You may be right but I think it's of minimal effect.

[MUSF]

recruiting wise it means a ton.  
I think its pretty safe to say after the last 5 months that if Diamond stays in the state it will be to play for the Badgers.  A lack of a coaching change hangover is extremely important to the future of the program.  A bad hire coupled with UW success could lead to a major lack of in-state talent coming to MU for years to come.

Maybe, but it depends on who we hire. MU and UW haven't really been after the same recruits all that much. I'm pretty sure that UW wasn't even an option for Duane Wilson or Deonte Burton.

[BenCat12]

They play two completely different styles and recruit completely different players for the most part.

It hasn't stopped either program from being successful the last several seasons.  You may be right but I think it's of minimal effect.

I respect your posts on here, but I think you are wrong.  They recruit similar players now and the Badgers are becoming more physically talented (Decker, Hayes, Koenig).  They aren't getting the plaid wearing lumberjacks they used to. 

BTW, what style do we play?

[Earl Tatum]

Wisco has a couple of players stashed for next year. One Riley Dearing from Minn. No room for him play this
year. Reason for redshirt. Jordan Hill PG.

[Tugg Speedman]

They play two completely different styles and recruit completely different players for the most part.

It hasn't stopped either program from being successful the last several seasons.  You may be right but I think it's of minimal effect.

+1

It's as much how they play in addition to how they do.

Stone is a back to the basket 5.  How does that style fit with Bucky's style.

Frankly if Stone is willing to travel away from home (meaning not MU), it would make more sense for him to entertain Kentucky, Duke or Michigan State as there styles fit his game.

Frankly Luke Fisher's game probably works better at Bucky than Stone.

[MUSF]

I respect your posts on here, but I think you are wrong.  They recruit similar players now and the Badgers are becoming more physically talented (Decker, Hayes, Koenig).  They aren't getting the plaid wearing lumberjacks they used to. 

BTW, what style do we play?

What players do they have that we recruited? I'm pretty sure we weren't after the three you listed. Likewise, they weren't going after Wilson, Burton, JJJ, or Dawson.

You think we are wrong but provide zero evidence.

[mechaghidorah]

Maybe, but it depends on who we hire. MU and UW haven't really been after the same recruits all that much. I'm pretty sure that UW wasn't even an option for Duane Wilson or Deonte Burton.

UW is quickly becoming a "cool" team now and getting raves from guys like Barkley.  I just don't think MU can afford a mediocre hire.

[mattyv1908]

I respect your posts on here, but I think you are wrong.  They recruit similar players now and the Badgers are becoming more physically talented (Decker, Hayes, Koenig).  They aren't getting the plaid wearing lumberjacks they used to. 

BTW, what style do we play?

Well this last season we played the most pathetic half court offense signified by the incessant dribbling around the top of the key by our point guard but the last several seasons we've been a very good transition team with the ability to create shots with dribble drive penetration.

We can agree to disagree on your overall point.  I'm not saying it will have zero impact, but I think it will be minimal.

[Tugg Speedman]

UW is quickly becoming a "cool" team now and getting raves from guys like Barkley.  I just don't think MU can afford a mediocre hire.

Well that changes everything.  Barkley raves about the team that just won on his network.  gamechanger!!

[NotAnAlum]

UW NEVER has guys leave early.  Who was the last guy that left before 4 years? Devin Harris?  Any other program would lose Kominsky after a NCAA like this, but not Bo.  God's sake Tucker stayed for like 7 years.  We get guys like Otule to stay while Vander leaves early.  Must be the way Bo indoctrinates them.
I guess who said life would be fair.
Well congratulations anyway.

[Tugg Speedman]

I respect your posts on here, but I think you are wrong.  They recruit similar players now and the Badgers are becoming more physically talented (Decker, Hayes, Koenig).  They aren't getting the plaid wearing lumberjacks they used to. 

BTW, what style do we play?

We're going to find out next week.  Hopefully Monday or Tuesday.

[mattyv1908]

Well that changes everything.  Barkley raves about the team that just won on his network.  gamechanger!!

We may not agree on much, but I think there's a little overreaction going on by scoopers about this topic.

Was Wisconsin worried about us recruiting they're type of players during our last three years of success?

[BenCat12]

What players do they have that we recruited? I'm pretty sure we weren't after the three you listed. Likewise, they weren't going after Wilson, Burton, JJJ, or Dawson.

You think we are wrong but provide zero evidence.

There is no evidence, we have no coach, that's why I said, IF they continue down the paths they are on, not staying relatively equal like they have been in years past.  If we continue to be the train wreck and UW continues to dominate, style wont matter.  Diamond doesn't want to be just a back to the basket center, he wants to shoot threes.

Again, what style do we play, we have no coach.  If we hire Howland we will play slower than UW did this year, than what?    

[bilsu]

Kaminsky is having a much better NCAA tournament than Blue did and I bet he does not go pro.

[mattyv1908]

There is no evidence, we have no coach, that's why I said, IF they continue down the paths they are on, not staying relatively equal like they have been in years past.  If we continue to be the train wreck and UW continues to dominate, style wont matter.  Diamond doesn't want to be just a back to the basket center, he wants to shoot threes.

Again, what style do we play, we have no coach. If we hire Howland we will play slower than UW did this year, than what?    

Howland's pace of play his last five years at UCLA is identical to the pace of play of Marquette the last five years.  That's a misconception.

[🏀]

Howland's pace of play his last five years at UCLA is identical to the pace of play of Marquette the last five years.  That's a misconception.

Not sure how many times this needs to be said, but keep posting it.

[Avenue Commons]

UW is quickly becoming a "cool" team now and getting raves from guys like Barkley.  I just don't think MU can afford a mediocre hire.

There is no sane human being alive who thinks Marquette can afford a mediocre hire.

Is it insane to think if Marquette doesn't like their choices this year, Wainright becomes "Interim Head Coach" for a year?

[BenCat12]

Howland's pace of play his last five years at UCLA is identical to the pace of play of Marquette the last five years.  That's a misconception.

There is also a misconception that we play fast.  
The fact is nobody knows what style we will play in the future.  Nobody knows who we will hire.  UW is a juggernaut right now and most likely will be next year and we are a disaster.  
That will only hurt in-state recruiting.  To say it won't, is being dishonest.