Character Revealed.....Buzz had none....

[dgies9156]

OK, I was not like Ners or Chicos, I thought Buzz was staying and I kinda hoped he would live up to his promise that he would stay here as long as we wanted him.

A lot of us are down in the dumps because we knew we had something special in Buzz. Even though this year was disappointing and we had some questions about rotations, we saw the talent and we saw the potential. Now, we now walk in the valley of death and we do fear evil, because we're afraid we'll get Bob Dukiet or Mike Deane for our next head coach, rather than KO, TC or Buzz.

Thank God Larry WIlliams is gone. I can only image the depth of the Valley of Darkness we would be in if he were locating our next head coach.

I'm cautiously optimistic because we DO have something special, but I share some of your concerns about who we hire (as I said in another post, please, no Brian Wardle).

Maybe Buzz wasn't what we thought he was. Maybe he has thin skin, wants to beat Syracuse once a decade. Or keep trying to beat Louisville. Well, I hope he's happy because in Blacksburg, he has no Al; he has no local celebrity; and, yes, he has no expectations. There won't be 15,500 per night in the arena -- unless they build a new one.

[hairy worthen]

Thanks Keefe. Probably won't happen.

I do hope that the next coach will be one we can all get behind, but judging from comments I am already seeing here, that likely will not happen.
The last two coaches hired had little or no experience. That suggests to me we could not get a name coach. Now people are saying we should get one. That is fine--but let's not denigrate somebody because he is Brian Wardle or Chew, etc.

You had to be one of those obnoxious little kids that just doesn't shut up.

Its not about slurping or drinking the kool aid, its about supporting your team. Nothing wrong with questioning the coaches decisions, but the incessant derogatory outbursts about the coach and players is despicable in my opinion. Even worse is the self vindication and calling out Buzz slurpers. Have some class, you are no better the Brew's rant after the 2013 season.

Until proven wrong, you have to take what the coach says at face value. You cant argue with the Buzz's previous years success both on the court and recruiting trail. It may turn out that Buzz was the slime of all time, or maybe he is a different cat and just wanted to try something different and wanted a change of scenery. VA Tech is not a bad place, although the basketball program sucks. No coach is above the program, and the program will survive and thrive.

Move on, the program is in position to make an exciting high profile hire. I would like to see Shaka, Marshall, or Howland in that order.

[Goose]

Ners and Wille were calling it like they saw it. I had no gripes with their posts at all.

[hairy worthen]

Ners and Wille were calling it like they saw it. I had no gripes with their posts at all.

Not so much ners.  The problem for me wasn't that they posted it, as it was the negative and almost vindictive tone. That and the same crap over, and over and over and over and over and over again.  Willie has probably worn out the
S- L- U- R -P- E- R   keys on his computer.

[Goose]

Hairy

I did not like negative tone either, but Ners was backed into a corner...one he made, but he was defended himself to some degree. Honestly this was a bad, long season. I checked out for first time in many, many years and that sucked.

[connie]

I can admit I drank the kool-aid.  Met the man several times at Buzz's Bunch, and you doing something that my kid still remembers fondly years later gets you a lot of currency from me.  Won't say that I feel betrayed, but surprised, taken-in, maybe even fooled, yes.  I'm generally a cynical bastard too--which makes me feel worse for falling for it.

Oh well.  I appreciated Crean even if I didn't like him.  I will appreciate Buzz for what he accomplished and for the bit of happiness he brought into my life.  I trust that Cords is interested in getting a quality coach and MU will be fine.  Will still ignore Willie because I simply don't appreciate the constant over the top negativity on a fan message board.  Just don't need that in something I'm trying to enjoy.  

[hairy worthen]

Hairy

I did not like negative tone either, but Ners was backed into a corner...one he made, but he was defended himself to some degree. Honestly this was a bad, long season. I checked out for first time in many, many years and that sucked.

I am with you, I wasn't much engage this year either.

[willie warrior]

Not so much ners.  The problem for me wasn't that they posted it, as it was the negative and almost vindictive tone. That and the same crap over, and over and over and over and over and over again.  Willie has probably worn out the
S- L- U- R -P- E- R   keys on his computer.

Yeah, Hairy, just like Buzz wore out the same BS over and over, and some people called him out on it. I know Hairy, people do not like to hear that they were wrong--I get it. In Buzz we trust.

[ecompt]

I am with you, I wasn't much engage this year either.

There were three MU games that I didn't watch a second of even though I had the opportunity. First time since 1968. The program will survive but right now I feel used.

[Goose]

ecompt

Right with you across the board. The school needs to hire new President and get everything back on track.

[NersEllenson]

Hairy

I did not like negative tone either, but Ners was backed into a corner...one he made, but he was defended himself to some degree. Honestly this was a bad, long season. I checked out for first time in many, many years and that sucked.

Goose - MANY here know I've been one of Buzz's biggest fans...a HUGE fan of him throughout.  I had his back a ton.  Only concerns were: DJ Newbill charade - that was first time I'd posted something negative about Buzz...but chose to give him benefit of doubt.  From that point until this season had been unbelievably supportive.

This season, however, his coaching decisions were as inexplicable as the decision to leave MU for Virginia Tech.  Wouldn't surprise if this was more of a fire/quit scenario.  Obviously, I beat the drum hard about Buzz's insistence to not change the PG or backcourt situation many times over...frustration wasn't so much with Derrick - as it was Buzz for continuing to roll him out 30+ minutes per game when it was clear we were going to struggle.  Buzz himself says we play 4 on 5 with him...then why in God's name do you subject yourself to it over and over..when the ONE game he gave Dawson 30 minutes the results were good?

Having Burton on the bench the last 7 minutes of the Xavier game in BET was the final straw for me, in that he totally lost it...

[Goose]

Ners

I agreed wit 95% of what you said this season. Also agree time will tell if fire/quit situation. He was not happy guy this year and actually appeared to have lost his mind with rotations he played. I know you are Buzz guy and love your support of the program.

[connie]

Goose - MANY here know I've been one of Buzz's biggest fans...a HUGE fan of him throughout.  I had his back a ton.  Only concerns were: DJ Newbill charade - that was first time I'd posted something negative about Buzz...but chose to give him benefit of doubt.  From that point until this season had been unbelievably supportive.

This season, however, his coaching decisions were as inexplicable as the decision to leave MU for Virginia Tech.  Wouldn't surprise if this was more of a fire/quit scenario.  Obviously, I beat the drum hard about Buzz's insistence to not change the PG or backcourt situation many times over...frustration wasn't so much with Derrick - as it was Buzz for continuing to roll him out 30+ minutes per game when it was clear we were going to struggle.  Buzz himself says we play 4 on 5 with him...then why in God's name do you subject yourself to it over and over..when the ONE game he gave Dawson 30 minutes the results were good?

Having Burton on the bench the last 7 minutes of the Xavier game in BET was the final straw for me, in that he totally lost it...

Just another of the many mysteries that came up this year.  I doubt we will ever get a good answer to any of these questions.  Like Buzz's rotations I am sure there is a reason, but most sane people will never figure them out.  Va. Freaking Tech.  I'll never get that.

[hairy worthen]

Ners

You were correct and I didn't actually disagree with you, just got tired of the same thing over and over again.  You at least made well reasoned arguments. I think goose is correct maybe buzz did check out and in the back of his mind he wanted to prove a point and was too pig headed to change. I think the seniors sans Jake picked up on it and it affected their play. At times j wil seemed like he checked out.

[tower912]

Buzz has character.   In the end, he didn't feel MU wanted him.   In his head, he feels he stayed as long as MU wanted him.   I appreciate his contribution to MU.    I think he made a mistake, but if he did, he will pay the price.   

[keefe]

Buzz has character.   In the end, he didn't feel MU wanted him.   In his head, he feels he stayed as long as MU wanted him.   I appreciate his contribution to MU.    I think he made a mistake, but if he did, he will pay the price.   

There is a difference between character and values. BW felt Marquette was constraining him and Marquette didn't agree with BW's management of many aspects of his program. BW's values and belief system were at odds with how Marquette's senior leadership wished to run the University.

And make no mistake - the rotations this year were a bloody statement.

 

[TheBurrEffect]

advancing his career

I guess the word advancing is open to interpretation.

[BigRed]

Buzz should have taken a lesson from the last major Wisconsin college athletics coaching departure- Brett Bielema. Going from being the big fish in little pond (a pond that is really not all that small BTW) to the bottom dog in the best conference doesn't look like a great career choice for ole' Brett. Remember, Buzz. Karma.

[willie warrior]

Buzz has character.   In the end, he didn't feel MU wanted him.   In his head, he feels he stayed as long as MU wanted him.   I appreciate his contribution to MU.    I think he made a mistake, but if he did, he will pay the price.   

Well Tower, time for the ignore button. Character? BS. used car salesman have more character in their tallywhacker than Buzz has.

[slingkong]

He said he stay here as long as he was wanted. He knows he was not wanted, if he has been reading MU Scoop for the last three months, where he was continuously criticised. I am sure that MUscoop was not the only place where he was being questioned and criticised. Maybe he is a little thin skin, but I do not think his leaving violates what he originally said.

Oh noes! Criticism! Let me find my pearls so I can clutch them while I faint! And why doesn't anyone think of the children?!

If Buzz is that thin skinned then he won't make it anywhere.